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I ended up in A&E after crashing at the bottom of Yoghurt Pots on Holmbury yesterday. First thing I did when I got home? Checked my time on Strava - PR! Made all the pain go away....
I've found the Strava app on my HTC Wildfire S to be very hit and miss on the GPS missing bits out then drawing straight lines when it catches up.
However, MyTracks (googles own GPS) already on the phone works perfect then I upload the gpx file from phone to Strava 🙂
Just uploaded my 1st ride on this - bit cross that I dropped my chain on a good downhill stretch that turns out to be a segment. Reckon I could have been top few as I'm fair as long as it's not uphill (got 9th out of 30 on one climb which amazed me)
I think we have a bandit though (or else he eats that special beef quite a lot). Granted it's a short stretch and not that steep a climb, but ... :
35.6 mph 148 bpm 0:33
25.0 mph - 0:47
24.4 mph - 0:48
23.5 mph 153 bpm 0:50
22.6 mph - 0:52
21.7 mph 115 bpm 0:54
21.7 mph - 0:54
21.7 mph 169 bpm 0:54
21.3 mph - 0:55
21.3 mph 173 bpm 0:55
21.3 mph - 0:55
21.3 mph - 0:55
20.9 mph 133 bpm 0:56
20.9 mph - 0:56
20.9 mph 154 bpm 0:56
20.2 mph 139 bpm 0:58
20.2 mph 164 bpm 0:58
19.9 mph - 0:59
19.6 mph 150 bpm 1:00
19.2 mph - 1:01
18.9 mph - 1:02
18.9 mph - 1:02
18.9 mph 145 bpm 1:02
18.9 mph 154 bpm 1:02
18.0 mph 141 bpm 1:05
am i alone in thinking KOM's should be limited to uphill?
Doesn't seem too far out if he's fit? There's a short section of road near me with a slight downhill into a fairly short up climb (0.5 miles, 2.3% avg) which took me 1:37 seconds at an average speed of 20mph.
am i alone in thinking KOM's should be limited to uphill?
Uphill, or nearly flat imo. Don't mind sections which have a negative gradient to them so long as they're longer with flat sections in.
I don't think they should
Well, "KoM" should be uphill but I don't see why there can't be flat or downhill segments as well
I do think steep road hills should not have tables if they're in a 30 limit though.
The climb i got top 10 on is pretty steep and I reckon easily 40-45able downwards but I never go above 30 as it's residential with lot of driveways etc on it. It has no speed restriction at all I don't think but I'd report it if they started a table for it
Whatnobeer - he's 40% better than the next best rider and all the rest follow a close progression downwards. He's either pretty much pro-level or owns a moped IMO
(Not being a bad loser; I'm not, err, on that list at all - I'm a page 3 boy 😳 )
Would agree at a net uphill for KoM, although would allow a short downhill section in the middle if the over all climb is pretty obviously defined.
Flat/downhill road "time-trial" sections (and bridleways etc.) could become a liability issue, if no racing is permitted. OK an uphill TT might be classified as a race too, but can't see too many speed limits being broken there.
As for loops (trail centres etc.), how well does it correlate the followed route? If you cut off a corner somewhere (either cheating or trail closure etc), would it be clever enough to realise you skipped a bit of trail?
Seen a couple more people have posted segments around here, so might give it another go. But then I reduced my PB from 23 to 19min on 1 climb, and can see another guy posted 19min on a variation of that climb. But I don't go out to race.
I've been timing myself over various sections of the Quantocks for the best part of 20 years, are you going ban all timing devices on bikes next 🙄
Ban downhill sections? Christ, you guys are boring, I'm going back to Pinkbike.
Ban downhill sections? Christ, you guys are boring, I'm going back to Pinkbike.
+1
Anyone else find the 'VAM' measurement pretty useful?
I've started to take more note of it, and its a great way to compare effort on completely different climbs.
Finding now that I can judge how well I was riding based on the VAM, and see where I can improve....
Highest I've got is 1500 so far: [url= http://app.strava.com/segments/712667 ]http://app.strava.com/segments/712667[/url]
Just to add an extra level of geekiness to the conversation....
all my added segments are downhill as no boring person has added them yet!! Yep change name from KOM to Biggest Balls or something but finally something to settle the pub argument as to who was quicker!!
Anyone else doing the Specialized 100,000ft challenge?
Yep, I'm in the Specialized challenge. I think I'm 38% of the way through. Looks like the winner is from my locale of Lynton though, which makes me proud as I'm currently so far away from Devon!
but finally something to settle the pub argument as to who was quicker!!
Except it doesn't as due to the vaguries of GPS tracking and the way the log is picked up by Strava the fastest rider can have ridden quite a bit shorter distance. Of course you can flag those rides so your mates times get removed until checked...
or owns a moped IMO
😆 this makes me happy
Part of my drive home from work is a hill that lots of roadies are Stravaing and I'll admit to being very tempted to drive it at about 18mph (just to keep it feasible) with Stava on just to mess with peoples' heads 🙂
Racing uphill, great.
The downhill KOMs are providing great entertainment for me at least.
Always happy to lose a KOM to Neil Donoghue. (b-line 2nd part at Llandegla [url= http://app.strava.com/rides/5158373#115423397 ]linky[/url])
seems some people are bulk importing old data, which, imo isn't really cricket as a trail may have significantly changed in a year. Still, got 2nd on cutgate langsett descent ([url= http://app.strava.com/rides/5971003#113879640 ]linky[/url]) and a few others....
Anyone want a virtual race?
dasnut - really you can only directly compare yourself to riders who were riding in a group at the same time as you.
Trails change day to day and week to week and they can't have a KOM for 'wet and claggy mud' and another for 'dry and dusty'.
My 2p is that I'm normally only 'racing' myself - if I can better my own best time for a climb then that's a 'win' for me.
I've just signed up and looking forward to trying a few routes, just to see how close to the bottom I am.
After you've uploaded a route via android - can you download back to your pc in a gpx / tcx format?
Ta
Am inteested in using Strava, but have a Nokia phone from an age where Sinclair C5s were the cutting edge.
If I buy a Garmin Edge 200, will I be able to use this to track/upload Strava times? Does the App used on smart phones simply allow you to turn the recording on/off? I presume you just have to select a segment from the GPS file recorded if you are using a specific bike/walking type GPS?
Being able to climb quicker proves one thing. Faster descending proves so much more.....
Faster climbs = fitter (unless its a particularly techy climb)
faster descent = more skill, more balls, more control, more awesome!
I think in general - MTB'ers use it to race downhill, roadies to race uphill?
An accident racing downhill on the road usually ends up much more serious.
faster descent = more skill, more balls, more control, more awesome!
time and place, racing bridleways is going to end in tears. If you can be sure that the track is empty fine, but blind corners, speed, horses, dogs, not a good mix.
If I buy a Garmin Edge 200, will I be able to use this to track/upload Strava times?
Yes
Does the App used on smart phones simply allow you to turn the recording on/off?
Yes - if you ride a 'segment' (what the sections of trail/road that are being discussed are called) during your ride, it'll automatically put you into the leaderboard for that segment once you upload your ride
I presume you just have to select a segment from the GPS file recorded if you are using a specific bike/walking type GPS?
No - as above, it happens automatically once you upload your ride.
Clubber - thank you. Have got one on order to help motivate me to burn off the extra Easter Egg calories.
Will be hiding my home location when I register, more for the shame of being so slow rather than bike security!
So setting up a virtual gravity enduro would be considered bad form?
There's certainly a place for racing downhills offroad and these are generally the conditions in which real as opposed to virtual downhill racing occurs.
To state the obvious to the Strava downhill racer wannabe's - downhill racing involves one way traffic, appropriate spacing between riders and the absence of other users on the trail.
These are not the conditons that are present on most bridleways, multiuse paths or even most large trail centres.
If your balls are that big then why don't you stop virtual racing the XC boys on red trails and take up real downhill racing.
Some very boring people on this forum 🙄
Some very boring people on this forum
No, more like, some grown ups who realise that killing someones dog isn't going to do mountain biking any good.
this +1
If your balls are that big then why don't you stop virtual racing the XC boys on red trails and take up real downhill racing.
whilst 'racing' up a road to get a genuine KOM makes perfect sense to me, ripping the shit out of downhill bridleways does not.
it's not being boring, it's just the alternative is being ****ing stupid.
jam bo - MemberSo setting up a virtual gravity enduro would be considered bad form?
by some yes, by others no.
but it would be very good way of getting mountain bikes banned from some/most/all of the National parks...
(ot at least giving very good ammunition to those who wish to see us banned)
Doesn't sounds much more dangerous than a lot of the races along busy roads imo. Depends where you have it.
All the willy waving about riding downhill being a true show of skill seems a bit weak. There's a thin line between skill and stupid, much like the guy who killed himself going at 50mph in a 30.
I like the full course laps around trail centers and popular loops 🙂 Should make it good fun visiting somewhere new and sticking a score down.
C'mon guys, there's something to be said for applying a shred of common sense. Obviously if it's a mixed use trail then be aware of possible sentient obstacles.....just like cheeky riding in general. We shouldn't need rules and regulations to protect us from ourselves.
Hate to sound unsympathetic but that guy was clearly suffering from a bad case of natural selection.
I don't know about you lot but I ride at the same speed downhill whether I'm recording it with Strava or not. It's fun to go fast down hills......offroad I might add, it's idiotic on the road.
Finding now that I can judge how well I was riding based on the VAM, and see where I can improve....Highest I've got is 1500 so far: http://app.strava.com/segments/712667
Not sure how it calculates this but i decided to look at the climbs i did in majorca and found this minor one to be 7269!!
http://app.strava.com/rides/5077291#96618397
Some very boring people on this forum
Very true, I have seen people try and out do each other at trail centres bridleways and everywhere else long before GPS tracking or Helmet Cams were available.
As much as people want to be first to the top people want to be first to the bottom.
I always ride (just about) to the trail and on shared use to the level of visibility. On trail centres I leave a good gap at the start of a section and if I'm first out of a group will ride with more thought as to who is round the next corner, and if your sat on the board walks at Afan having a picnic then expect so loud suggestions as to where to put your sandwiches!!
As for racing XC boys on red routes it looks like a good DH race practice tool, next race I do I will be setting up the segments and seeing how I progress over the day and if there are 2 or 3 of us there then we will be comparing times to see how we can get faster.
As usual life rule number 1 applies don't be a t*** and it will generally be OK
as for the "track changes" "wet or dry" "he cut a corner" stuff about the times not being comparable, since I got to Oz I've started to see why people say whinging pom.....
We shouldn't need rules and regulations to protect us from ourselves.
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/fuel/9175478/Fuel-strike-woman-suffers-40-per-cent-burns-in-jerry-can-fire.html ]natural selection?[/url]
whilst i agree that we shouldn't need rules to protect us from ourselves, the sad reality is there are a lot of very stupid and selfish people around. As i said earlier, it is about time and place, if you know a track is clear fine, but a shared use track on a summer sunday afternoon, you are a fool.
I don't know about you lot but I ride at the same speed downhill whether I'm recording it with Strava or not. It's fun to go fast down hills......offroad I might add, it's idiotic on the road.
People do ride faster though, and that's the problem! I hit far far higher speeds on the road than off, even without trying. Is that idiotic?!
Not at all, but doing 50 through a 30 zone is. Just to clarify, I meant going overly fast, not road riding in general. Pretty much the only similarity between road and mountain biking is the BSO between the legs, they're completely different in almost every other respect. You can't compare them so easily, particularly in this instance.
Downhill road segments should be culled, you just can't behave like that on the road. Too many big, heavy, fast metal things involved. Maybe they could implement a system that compares the rider speeds to the limit for that section of road and then deletes the segments which encourage riders to ride like idiots. That said, there's plenty of unrestricted mountain descents knocking about.
Is this the right place to gloat about beating the reigning world xc champ over a segment? 🙂
[url= http://app.strava.com/rides/6441029#121576288 ]Cheshire Cat[/url]
The rider I "beat" is Catherine Pendrell (google her)
For the record, this is a one way mountain bike trail and there were no other riders, hikers,dogs, cats or horses on or near the trail when I rode thru' . I give that record about two weeks max before some young ripper thrashes my time
Logged on again for a laugh. Looks like it's gone from absolutely jack all to some XC pro setting unbeatable times in about 2 weeks on most routes up the nearest hill. I managed to knock 4 minutes of my record (23min to 19min) and he's managed another 6 minutes quicker than that.
If endomondo was last year's app, strava this year's, I'll wait for 2013's fad.
I got 3rd fastest on spooky woods descent the other day (no walkers, dogs or oncoming traffic to be seen)
I have lost my only road KOM by one sec and it upset me much more than I expected!
🙁
Hi,
I hope someone can help me. I have just created some local segments which appear in my KOM ut when I search the area they don't appear?
ta
It will only upload the last two weeks data from my Garmin and not the last 12 months that are on there 🙁
Hammy - it does that for me too. some sections never show up when i ride them again either.