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[Closed] straggler vs vaya vs Cdf vs marakesh! any more options?

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anyone got pros and cons?

i currently have a lovely old raleigh 531 racer (my favourate), surly crosscheck and singular swift. the swift never gets used so im thinking about selling it. BUT, i do want a bike i can go off roading with - on the occasion i do. id rather have disc brakes for when i do, so that makes the surly redundant.

i could sell my surly and swift and buy one of the above frames, and use them for the occasional MTB and touring.

which would you recoment

p.s i would put flat bars on it.

cheers


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 3:14 pm
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Head tube height will rule out vaya (really tall) or straggler (really short).

I like my vaya. Will take 47/50c tyre max. Back end is very long because of this.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 3:18 pm
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you mean if i use flat bars, they would be high on the vaya and low on the straggler?
could i not compensate for that with the right length/andgle stem?


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 3:29 pm
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I looked at some of those options, other possibilities are Genesis vagabond and specialized awol but at the moment sticking with my swift & equilibrium instead


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 3:58 pm
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yeah i also looked at those

i do like the look of them, but they're more on the MTB end of the spectrum. i want a road bike that can fit fatter tyres, rather than a MTB with skinny tires. ya know?


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 4:16 pm
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Salsa just emailed about the 'new'Marrakesh. The Orange/Brown/Tanwall looks great!

http://salsacycles.com/culture/the_new_marrakesh_has_arrived

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Posted : 01/06/2016 4:40 pm
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And the Marrakesh is sold as a flat bar variant.


 
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Would you run it singlespeed or geared?

i do like the look of them, but they're more on the MTB end of the spectrum. i want a road bike that can fit fatter tyres, rather than a MTB with skinny tires. ya know?

So a hybrid then 😀


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 4:46 pm
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geared

the draw to the genesis CGF (and Vaya) is they seem to come up more second hand


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 4:47 pm
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Singular Kite
All City Macho Man
Brother Kepler

Some off the top of my head as I've been looking for a similar sort of thing.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 4:52 pm
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also looking at similar and the Soma Wolverine looks like a good option… if only it was a purple sparkly colour.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 5:15 pm
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The BB on touring bikes are typically a lot lower than your Singular or CrossCheck. Also fitting flat bars to a bike designed for drops just spoils the bike IMO, yes it can still be fun to an extent, but its not as good if you use it regularly (I have a Surly LHT with flats for shopping duties). Get something designed for flats if you are starting fresh.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 5:18 pm
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bump!


 
Posted : 02/06/2016 6:37 pm
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I liked the straggler but the stupid rear dropouts put me off ultimately.. I don't think the tubing is great but I could have lived with that. The Wolverine ticks nearly all my boxes (roadish geometry and components with clearance for fat 650b tyres & mudguards) and is available for a reasonable price from our friends in Germany.


 
Posted : 02/06/2016 8:19 pm
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Stick some Knards 700x40 on your swift. Job done. Cheers 1 shed.


 
Posted : 02/06/2016 8:51 pm
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im swingging for the straggler


 
Posted : 05/06/2016 9:44 pm
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What about http://www.thelightblue.co.uk/Sport/complete-bikes ?


 
Posted : 05/06/2016 10:14 pm
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I liked the straggler but the stupid rear dropouts put me off ultimately

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Soma Wolverine looks delicious in orange, what sort of price / availability in the UK?


 
Posted : 07/06/2016 5:18 pm
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it's £650 ish in the UK but £500 ish delivered from one of the big German bike shops... still tempted.


 
Posted : 07/06/2016 5:31 pm