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Sorry just re read the first post and noticed the above on Phils 2nd post 😳
At least it bumped it up again.
Looks like I'll have to ride with the fat wheel on mine more often so people don't look and point.
Actually they stop and point anyway.
What about offering £100 no questions asked if its returned....in the local press I mean. I know it goes against the grain etc, but come on, if some local toe-rag has it, & see's how difficult its going to be to off-load it, it might just tempt him/her.
I'm not a toe rag but for a git like that to come out of hiding you would need more on offer to tempt him out.
Offer a grand no questions asked. When the scum turns up beat them up but make ure no questions asked. Ok, coat, door, lock it from outside....
Found out they also took our lights so if any dodgy sounding ads crop up ask suitable questions...
Exposure Joystick, boxed, with lanyard attachment but not the lanyard, I still have that and NO helmet mounts, I still have that too!
Exposure MAxx-D - again no mounts in the box, I have it but everything else there.
Lupine Betty 12 with charger One and bottle battery, the remote switch has a syntace bar mount on it, car charger inside still in it's plastic bag, all in it's padded case.
I did not keep the serials for the Exposures (doh)
Think I will try a local ad.
I think its worth putting a ad in the Leicester Mercury or putting up signs around Hinckley with pic etc and saying reward offered and in all local bike shops,post offices etc.
If you print some ads out i can put them up in shops around Leicester for you.
Which station did the cops come from?
The fact they took such distinctive bikes, plus lights, and the little one's bike, makes this look more and more like a stolen to order rather than pikey thieving. If it had just been nicking for a bit of cash then I feel sure they'd have taken the easy option. They were obviously clued-up as well as tooled-up, so it's possible they'll turn up, perhaps out of the region. I really feel your anger over this: I'd be incandescent about it, the desire to do real, physical harm to the scumbag perps would be overwhelming. I really hope you get them back. Bastards!
A Jones stolen to order, would suggest either a very keen collector who won't ever use it, someone who never rides where mountain bikes that don;t use the internet go, or someone who is deluded as to how obvious it is on the trail and how much attention it gets. I only had it a few weeks and got out maybe 6 or 7 times and I wondered whether I should prepare handouts!
Just caught up with this - awful news as I've followed your build on Jeff's blog.
Will keep an eye out down South but like you say, every time I ride mine I get attention both positive and negative - from "beautiful" to "where's your shopping basket"! Will be impossible for thief/buyer to keep this under wraps. Never seen another on the trails.
I have a friend who works for Mclaren racing. He offered to make me a carbon fibre shopping basket 😆
I asked if it was Mclarens own design or had the drawings come from Ferrari 😆
Sent a story to the local paper now and a friend has circulated to all the nearby police forces.
No news is not good news 🙁
Gone to ground or to skip, my auto searches on Ebay keep coming up with nail kits!
Why not ask your local free papers if you can "advertise"(for free) that you are starting up a lottery funded weird and wonderful, new and old bicycle museum and that you will pay top prices for "anything" that will suit.
You'll get a lot of things offered but your's just might turn up.
If it does they get the news scoop.
Having a quck search for you to no avail but I did see an advert that you can take out for free.
Why not do something like this?
http://manchester.gumtree.com/manchester/03/46421503.html
Thanks John, I'll try that too.
Looks like a friend may have managed to get the Leicester Police to do a press release, here's hoping.
No news??...kinda apologies for the bump
dont apologise mate. keep bumping it. im interested to see how it ends.
good luck
I haven't seen it yet.
b'stards they are.. :evil:..thanks for all the support on here
Don't feel guilty about bumping this every few days.
100!
I've just tried to imagine what would happen to the person found riding it at Swinley during the meet. Brutal images spring to mind. Good luck finding it (can you email me some pics so I can give them to mates in Dublin and Maynooth next week?).
i think stolen to order sounds relatively logical, ok theyre very attention drawing but even if a rider in europe had one then it would be unlikely to be linked back to here? and for the prices that might change hands then further afield may be a possibility? sorry i hope im wrong 🙁
LOL @ Hairychested jumping on Martinh if he comes on the Swinley ride on his Jones..... 😆
EDIT; Glad to see this is being bumped to the top regularly
I'll be too scared and cream crackered, but just imagine - meet, meat, forks 😈
I was just having that vision too. Think I'll bring the Banshee instead
Hairychested, I have sent you some pics and a description, much appreciated.
Got an article with pictures in the local papers today, hopefully that might help. Any mileage in emailing the magazines with some pictures?
Insurers loss adjuster trying to settle on value not replacement and trying to claim the haul was a collection and thus collectively subject to the un named max value 👿 Jones not affected but the others. Do they think I was born yesterday, I have politely told them, no try again.
Cheers all.
ar eyou out there oh beloved Jones :cry:??
Have you put up any local wanted adverts?
Or like missing cat posters, with no questions ask rewards
This may take months even years but I'm pretty sure that Jones is going to show its face to the world again at some point. Hope you have a happy outcome down the line.
One thing I never liked in the past is that when I used different bike shops and whenever I bought something they'd want my details on their system. Mostly this was when I was ordering stuff. Now I trust all these shops but then sometimes you never know where those details could go and if they have a dodgy Saturday worker there who's seen your fancy expensive bike and can provide those details to someone for cash. Just a thought.
Seeing as bikes tend to come out into the open that's hardly a likely scenario, maybe hi-fi equipment or whatever, but that would be an unnecessary amount of effort for bikes!
Suggest that a shop having your details means it's more likely to find its way back to you rather than being why it goes missing in the first place!
Hope it does turn up, you have to wonder how long someone can sit on something so rare.
as a former bike shop worker id like to think anyone who puts themselves through working in a bike shop would not stoop to such low levels, particularly as they would understand how gutting it is to lose a bike
[i]Insurers loss adjuster trying to settle on value not replacement and trying to claim the haul was a collection and thus collectively subject to the un named max value Jones not affected but the others. Do they think I was born yesterday, I have politely told them, no try again.[/i]
I imagine this is M&S or Greenbee? I'd be very interested to hear the outcome on the collection thing...I've always taken the view that a collection is a group of items that are worth more as a group than they would be individually. Otherwise you could say your three TV's are a collection and over the £4k limit, or your laptop and computer are a collection, etc etc.
Good luck with the stuff turning up anyway.
Gutted for you fella, hope you see them again
Paul
yay, insurer has agreed the proper values. Still want my bike back though, anyone seen it?
thats good tho? another jones could be bought (gutting i know but could be far far worse)
Jeff is holding the last 23" Merlin Jones for me, not sure yet where he will be able to get any more made other than custom "the one" bikes.
I can't see how I would improve or change anything on the spaceframe so there is little point in me getting a custom. All it would do for me is add to the wait!!
What measures to take against theft this time!! Door alarm, PIR, Locks, CCTV...park the car against the door, don't carry the bikes on top of the car... 👿 makes me mad again thinking about it.
Keep in your bedroom, with a chain attached between bike and ankle. Only way to be 100% sure.
I actually did this (minus the chain) when living in halls at Uni, no way was I parking my Explosif in the communal bike shed!
That's cool that JJ has a frame for you. Still doesn't make it better though. I still hurt after the above Explosif Pro got nicked, and that was over 10 years ago 😥
I bet the person who nicked it had a white stick!!
Chainline - Member
Jeff is holding the last 23" Merlin Jones for me
Great news Phil
Chainline - Member
What measures to take against theft this time!! Door alarm, PIR, Locks, CCTV...park the car against the door, don't carry the bikes on top of the car... makes me mad again thinking about it.
Keep the bike in the house, or at least the frame. The shits will know your insurance will pay up and they WILL be back in a couple of months
I have found some pretty evil security products that I will be using.
[url= http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/product.asp?s=fi539t138214&strPageHistory=category&numSearchStartRecord=0&strParents=70&CAT_ID=70&P_ID=130&btnProduct=More+Details ]Almax evil chain and lock[/url] through the bike
[url= http://www.topgearsuperstore.com/-motorcycle-security/xena/xena-xbl235-bullet-lock-alarm-14x35mm-850g-p-6306.html ]For the garage door[/url]
[url= http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=7 ]Wish I'd known about this first[/url]
Gonna add a PIR inside as well with a dialling facility to notify me and up to 8 others it has been triggered.
And finally a drive proximity sensor.
My only worry with keeping them inside is if the b'stards decide to break into the house which would be much more worrying if the either attacked my dogs or scared the cr$p out of my children. I'd rather they hacked into the garage.
Smar****er too I reckon and a CCTV camera and the car against the doors if I'm in.
If they still want it, well I give up! Then I really would have ben targeted.
I still think it will turn up at some point. I will keep looking on the bay, gumtree etc, posting on here.
Thanks John, I am pleased there is one left. He's waiting for a small batch of fat forks now, he's going to add some rack mounts for me.
Phil Wood has agreed to make one more 135mm SLR front hub for me, which is nice of them, they will put a serial number on it for me too.
No more JJ cranks though. Not sure what to put on it yet.
Have you seen this months WMTB - it has a bike lock/chain test
This was their winner - the [url=Protector and Squire]Pragmasis Protector chain and Squire padlock[/url]
Although looking at your list it is better than this one!
and the car against the doors if I'm in[i]
I remember the story of a guy that goes to open his garage door, to find his Ducati has gone (it had been blocked in by his car). On removing car he discovers that its bonnet/roof/boot are very scratched - it seems they stole the bike by pulling it over the car...
I'm sorry to hear about your loss Chainline. I've just put down a deposit on a 23" Spaceframe myself 🙂 I'm also waiting for a fat fork to be made for it. I didn't realise it was one of the last Spaceframes to be made!! I've made my own cut down M960 XTR chainset - I could probably make one for you - I don't suppose Jeff would mind - as he no longer makes them.
cool futon, you won't be dissappointed. I think Jeff still wants to produce some more, he just said that Merlin were'nt going to do them anymore for him but he was talking to some other possible builders, but you never know what's going to happen in this climate.
The Fat forks should be ready soon.
Jeff would probably make some if he had some cranks!
Phil
Phil - Why isn't Jeff working with Merlin any more?
Times be hard at Merlin.....
Or so I hear.
John,
I think from MErlin/ABG's perspective the combination of the difficulty of producing the spaceframe and the volume. He would like to keep working with them! I don't know how many production runs of the Soda Cy will get from them but it is an easier frame to make.
Jeff explained to me that the parent company ABG are concentrating on imported carbon frames for their future business plans and that people at Merlin had been laid off, I could only see more work going Lynsky's way in that case. Jeff just said he is talking to others but nothing was happening yet. He had some fat forks in production and was waiting for them. He had one 23" frame left in almost the same spec as mine save some details I could like with [only one bottle cage mount,gear guides] he can add some rack mounts for me, other than that I would need to go custom, which would take about 6 to 9 months. That's a nice thought but having discussed it with him, Jeff nor I would change the spaceframe at this time unless there was a specific purpose to the mod, so not a lot of point really.
HE did say he has some of the Merlin manipulated seat tubes should he build some custom spaceframes.
Are you all enjoying yours. I am talking to him tonight about the spec for the new bike so I'll ask him what's going on with Merlin.
Anyone seen my bike? 🙂
bump to place near 'Jones in London' thread
I've been keeping an eye out in Derby (and I live in a scrotastic area too) but, obviously, no sign.
Just wanted to say thatI'm pleased for you that JJ has found a replacement - I've had bikes stolen in the past and know how gut-wrenching it is. Mine were easily replacable so I can only guess how wretched it must have felt to have found 'your' bike only to potentially lose it forever. As I said, good for JJ, PW etc, great support.
Apologies for sort-of hijack, but has anyone used the Almax Evil stuff in Chainline's really helpful post above? It all looks good on their site, just wondered if there's any real-life experience before shelling out that sort of cash?
Cheers
I'll second that as I am about to take the plunge too.
What was the 'Jones in London' thread?
I should have said it was a very helpful post on London Fixed Gear and SS forum that I came across them whilst looking for a mean alarmed padlock.
@Oneoneorange, I reckon the series III package is more than enough for a push bike no matter what it is. If they really want it that bad they'll get it one way or another. You also have to take into account the size of the chain, in the review the chap mentions about it fitting between the swingarm on his motorbike, with 19mm bar the links will be massive (19+19+gap in the middle). Think about passing that through your spokes, forks, frame and swingarm???
I'm not bothered about the wheels or forks, it's the frame I want to keep tied to the floor!
The main thing for me is also the padlock not so much the chain. They went for my Oxford hardcore padlock not the chain because they could get to the shackle. The 19mm chain totally covers the shackle on that series iv, so I don't think they can get to it to bolt crop it, which was obviously the problem with my setup, which did win a Ride motorbike magazine lock test.
I hope that this doesn't come across as a thread hijack but it may be appropriate as we're talking Jones.
I am selling a Jones frame at the moment ( http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-jeff-jones-spaceframe-29er-suspension-forks) - but not very agressively it has to be said.
Thanks Chainline and Carlos. Some very helpful points.
(Back to security planning....)
not read whole thread but have you seen these;
[url] http://fwd.five.tv/gadgets/home-garden/home/alarms-protection/concept-smoke-screen-rapid-e-series ][/url]
video shows how they work.
Looks interesting 😉
$1200 Phil if you didn't get my text
I'm keeping an eye out Warwick way for you.
Thanks chaps, all good work, and thankyou John, I got your text.
phil
Anyone see my bike pokin around at the weekend??
here kitty kitty ❓
I have the Almax III chain and the Squire SS65CS and both seem very well made. Not had my garage broken into (yet) so can't testify how well they hold up to attack but the web-site is pretty convincing. I'm about to order a second set (IV chain + squire lock + defiant anchor) as want to divide up the locking of my 4 bikes for less hassle (otherwise the one against the wall never gets ridden :p ). Be careful if using the Almax III or IV with some ground anchors (like the Kryptonite stronghold) as the links might be too big to pass through the loop on it (the III goes through the stronghold if you file some of the plastic base away on the anchor), if you phone them up though they'll advise what will work and what won't.
The chains are also very heavy so don't plan on carrying them around with you and I'm always careful when unlocking mine to not let one of the ends of the chain drop free as otherwise it'll give your frame tube a nice whack.
Thanks for that, I have an Oxford Ground anchor, the eye is quite large but I'll see and if it doesn't work I'll have to get an almax one.
Any sitings?
I want to print out some pictures and get them put up at trail centre bike shops all over if possible. If anyone is willing to help and print out an A4/A3 picture with a description/spec/contact number and ask the local bike shop to put it up I would be really grateful. Contact me for said pic/description.
Should I post this on any to ther forums, Bike radar etc?
Get some posters up at all the trail centres?
bump is anyone has seen anything?
No sorry nothing up here.
I've taken to riding my new bike a bit more so no one stops me 😉
We're still looking but keep bumping.
Any news on the spare one Jeff has? or a custome one with the insurance?
Personally, im starting to think that there may be quite an organised group of people behind this...
Had my yeti 575 (new shape, turqoise, fox 36's, xo, goldtec/stans wheels) and my yeti ARC (team colours, sid forks with custom stickers, slight ding on the top tube, xo, goldtec/stans wheels) nicked the other night (i live in stoke). The shed was double locked and they were locked down with two motorbike chains, so whoevers nicked em knew exactly what they were after cos they used pneumatic croppers to get the chains off. They also made off with some other spare bits that i had in the shed. Im proper gutted.
So beware folks, cos it appears that if youve got a nice bike theres not a lot you can do to stop it being pinched other than take it absolutely everywhere with you!
John,
Jeff's awaiting a fork, in the meantime I'm in the process of making the garage as close to fort knox as possible, 2 seperate alarms, 1 dial up, mahoosive chains, monster container hasp, coach bolts everywhere and 2 ground anchors....not that I'm paranoid 😉
I'm wondering whether to ask him if he'll put a lower value on the invoice for customs!!
I think I worked out it cost about the same to go and fetch the bike as to have the shipping and taxes to pay
Chainline - Member
John,Jeff's awaiting a fork,
I've a spare "normal width" truss fork I'm not using while you wait for your fat fork, feel free to borrow it.
Chainline - Phil
Just to let you know people are still on the look out for your bike as I've noticed a change in questioning when I'm on the Jones.
It used to be, "what the ****", "tell me what you think of it", "Why's it look like that"
I went for an easy bimble around Llandegla today with a few mates and the question I was asked twice was "How long have you had your Jones?"
It might still turn up. Fingers crossed
😉I went for an easy bimble around Llandegla today with a few mates and the question I was asked twice was "I though you Jones rider had to have some skillz to get away with riding a bike that looks like that?"
To the OP.
I really do hope it turns up. I'd be gutted myself like.
Thanks guys, appreciate keeping it alive.
I'd like to recover it someday, alot of time and thought went into it from many people, professional and friends alike so it gates to think a scrote has it.
Thanks for the offer John on the fork, Jeff has everything now.
Martin, it is pretty much the same to fetch as ship and pay taxes, you just have to spend 3 days on planes! I would have liked to go though, I have just run out of time this year with other commitments, I'll probably try and get out there to see him and do a bit of riding next year.
I saw Cy at Cotic had the same issue with Merlin. Apparently they will only be producing one road bike and one mountain bike model next year.
Has anyone sen it
Apparently they (Merlin) will only be producing one road bike and one mountain bike model next year.
Lets hope they fail.
sorry to hear your loss...
its not just theft but home invasion, and i hope those scallies get busted...
Bit of a bump, in the vein hope Jonesy shows it's head or the wifes small full XTR, Royce hubbed (xr4.1 wheels), revelation forked, custard soul?