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[Closed] Stems, Easton Havoc, Haven or Thomson X4?

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After a shortish 50mm stem to replace my Orange own brand one, looking at these 3, much of a muchness in price shopping around.

Running 740mm wide Answer Pro Tapers, so wide but not [b]really [/b]wide, thoughts/opinions. Was going to get one in black so not fussed about colour!


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 6:31 pm
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Sorry to butt in but I've got a Truvativ Holzfeller 50mm black, 3 weeks old, that needs to go. It's the new model. Let me know if you're interested at all.


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 6:33 pm
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If you want exactly 50mm then it's Thomson. If you are okay with an extra 5mm then Haven or I think the Havoc is 35 or 60mm from memory.

I have a couple of Haven 55mm and really rate them. Merlin do an all black one.

If your seat post is Thomson then get Thomson 😉


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 6:36 pm
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I think the Easton Haven is the nicest of the three mentioned, have had quite a few Thomson x4's and they're good as well, but prefer the Eastons.

Easton came out top in a recent bike mag test as well, (if that matters to you) 8)


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 6:37 pm
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X4 and Havoc look to be 50mm and the Haven 55mm, not that fussed to be honest, not like I'm trying to hone my time trial position 😉


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 6:43 pm
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I've got a black 50mm x4 in great condition for £40 posted if that helps 😉


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 6:50 pm
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I've just got a Haven and its a thing of beauty. Nicest stem I've owned by a long way. Merlin often have them at a good price.


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 6:57 pm
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should have posted this in for sale or wanted 😀

Interested in that Thomson, tomglass20 YGM


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 7:00 pm
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fwiw, I swapped from a Thomson to a haven. Gotta say whilst I thought the Thomson was perfectly stiff, the haven is definitely stiffer when cranking on the bars...


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 7:00 pm
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Easton Haven 2013 black on black £45 merlin, thats where my money would go


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 7:02 pm
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beanieripper +1


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 7:03 pm
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Sorry to those touting stems above but that offer at Merlin was too good 🙂 added to basket!

Thanks folks


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 7:08 pm
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Surprised Hope havnt been mentioned !..and why not run an Atherton !,Answer make there gear don't they ??.


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 7:18 pm
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Good choice! I just got a Haven for my Mega and it's cheap, stiff, light and looks good.


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 7:18 pm
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Imo you can't beat a rf turbine, I've had all the above and that one is a much nicer quality. Although the length might be a problem 🙁


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 7:20 pm
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I've ended up with a cheap KCNC on one bike and cheap Pros on all the others, since they function just as well as expensive stems and are lighter. But ymmv.


 
Posted : 07/05/2013 7:33 pm
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[b]Easton Havoc, Haven or Thomson X4?[/b]

owned Easton Haven 55mm stem and Thomson X4 50mm stem on same bike (Banshee Rampant 100mm FS 4x bike used for dirt jump, pump tracks, etc.) with same bars in 740mm

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Easton Haven definitely stiffer when really honking hard on the bars or performing stunts 😉

if you look at the Haven, its an updated clone of the Thomson X4 with a wider stem body and clamp face (using their face plate locking system), I guess the redesign of the body is where the stiffer structure comes from, despite the Easton stem being lighter?

Easton is also "forged" rather than "CNC machined" like the Thomson, which unless my industrial design degree educated me incorrectly, is a superior process for strength to weight ratio, but setup costs more unless selling higher numbers (Easton have a healthy OE business compared to Thomson which is a niche brand)

the only downside to the Haven is that the stem bolts rusted very quickly, compared to the bolts on the Thomson which never rust..I hate rusty stem bolts on a bike!

currently? I am running Thomson X4 in 70mm with Easton Havoc aluminum 750mm bars on my XC bike and it feels just fine, and no rust! I don't put that bike through the same abuse as the 100mm bike which I no longer own, so its all relative really?


 
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Another vote for a turbine here. Great machining and just about 110g if low weights a concern.

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Posted : 07/05/2013 10:09 pm