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Guys after a bit of friendly advice - Having bagged myself a Carbon Nomad I am after a set of 160mm travellers!

first of if anyone has any links to good deals please post up 🙂
(I need tapered or full 1.5" steerer)

Have been looking at 2012 Talas 160 FIT RLC Kashima - BUT have heard service intervals are not good! and the Talas has extra weight and is not as plush? as say the FLOAT 160 RLC FIT. buy again servicing is very frequent.

I have also been looking a BOS Deville 160 TRC. Heard nothing but good stuff about them but ALOT harder to come by.

And then we have Lyrik's but i have no idea about all the flipping models RockShox offer - U turn, coil, dual air, single air blah blah etc etc. Which is best?

Anyone got any helpful info for me????

Talas - Float - Lyrik - Deville???????


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 6:11 pm
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I have float RLC FITs. Seem good.
I would not discount the marz forks. They are supposedly very good nowadays and not too pricey. Did you buy the nomad new?


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 6:13 pm
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You really should go Coil that bike deserves it!

I have been using some 2012 VAN FIT RC2 Kashima 36s for the last 6 months on my SC Butcher and I'm very pleasesd with them, but I here the Marzochhi are even better!


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 6:14 pm
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marz ti 55's all the way . love in a fork! 🙂


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 6:15 pm
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If you worry about maintaining them get some marzochi


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 6:20 pm
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+1 55 rc3 ti's


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 6:22 pm
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are the ti 55's 170 though?? Dont really wanna slacken her of anymore than the 67 degree


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 6:23 pm
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10mm??? run more sag


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 6:27 pm
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2010-2011 are 160mm


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 6:28 pm
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Think the marz EVO is 170 regular or older RC3ti is 160. Everyone who has a new marz loves them, but as they suffer from 2008-09 reputation are not big sellers hence old stock cheap at crc etc.


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 6:28 pm
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I have a alloy Nomad and now run floats, far better than the talas I had before, don't worry about the servicing just pop the lowers off after a few months and clean and regresse takes half an hour tops.

I had a pair of TI 55's in between the talas and floats and found them to be fantastic the only reason I changed to the floats was to save weight, to be fair I can't see 10mm of travel for the new 55's making any real difference to the head angle.

Would like to try a pair of Bos ones but have been put off by the service back up.


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 6:32 pm
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I run 2012 Fox Talas 36 FIT RLC Kashima on my Nomad - they are fantastic but probably no better than the Marz and at considerable cost. I'm happy with mine but if I was buying I'd get Marz - bang for buck and all that. Take some setting your forks up though - the frame is so stiff that it won't mask any shortcomings in suspension setup that you might be afforded with an Alu frame


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 6:35 pm
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What sort of riding are you looking to do?


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 6:47 pm
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Devilles, they're just ace.


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 6:56 pm
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I just fitted some float 36 fit RLC forks on my bike.

I love them, replaced my 140mm.

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The lyriks dual air are pretty cool for the 160 to 130 adjustment.


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 7:03 pm
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Just stuck some 160mm coil u-turn Lyriks on a BLT and finding them pretty good so far.

I think I'd be tempted to put lighter, air forks on a carbon bike though.


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 7:07 pm
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If you don't want/need height adjust, then 55s. If you do, then Lyrik coils. If you want light then I don't know 😉


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 7:12 pm
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I wouldn't bother with Talas on a Nomad C, I have some 160mm Float RLC's on mine & it would be a bit odd winding them down to climb.

Service intervals on the Fox's arn't bad, dropping the lowers once a month or so to change the oil isn't hard, and it takes about 10 minutes.

I'd like to try some of the 55's, but they have a fairly hefty weight penalty against all the Floats, which to be fair are fine. No one top end fork is going to turn you into more of a riding god than another.

I'd like to have tried some BOS, but no stock, no spares & an importer who seems scared of the phone doesn't bode well for support, plus it's largely placebo - you don't see Nico Vouilloz going any slower now he's riding Fox rather than BOS do you...


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 7:25 pm
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gsp1984 - Where you pick uo your floats? How much damage to the pocket?


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 7:30 pm
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Just bought some 1.5 steerer 2010 55rc3ti s from hucknroll in the us - £266!!


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 7:41 pm
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Including vat and import tax or is that still to come?


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 9:30 pm
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Even if you got charged import and VAT they'd still be under £400...


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 9:37 pm
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gsp1984 - Where you pick uo your floats? How much damage to the pocket?

I think they were about £800ish from tftuned, I'd have to check the receipt.


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 9:54 pm
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I love my Lyrik DPA's they are sooo bloody smooth. Not tried coil Lyriks but mine are much smoother than my Pike coils.

Having said that I agree with Jedi.


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 10:01 pm
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iv got fox talas on my nomad c you really dont need to drop the travel, it climbs beautifully inthe 160 travel ,the front end doent really lift on the steepest of climbs .


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 10:19 pm
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I splashed out on a set of BOS Devilles this year. I can tell you after one ride that they definitely, absolutely, completely and utterly feel like a suspension fork.

I'll tell you what they are actually like after a good solid 6 months riding on them. 😆


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 10:22 pm
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Lyrik solo airs , if you don't need travel adjustment .
Light
Easy set up
Fit and forget
Mine have been faultless 😀


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 10:28 pm
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how about xFusion Vengence (great name) 170mm?

Apparently good things are being said & <600 brand spanking new.


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 11:05 pm
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Infidel, curious to hear what result is. I've had forks from jenson and got hit (had factored it in) but some sellers try the gift route. Blinding price either way, and bonkers if you avoid the extra charges. The CRC (and wiggle last year) were just over 400, half rrp and half the competition.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 1:03 pm
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I bought some 2010 55 RC3 ti with 1.5 steerer from CRC a few weeks ago for £350... bargaintastic.

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For the weight weenie they were/are 270g more than the 2010 Float RC2 36's they replaced (now moved to my hardtail).

What can I tell you about the performance... they are smooth... very very smooth. With the Float's on my FS there was always a certain amount of harshness/feedback no matter if I was running an air rear shock (Push Float R) or a coil (Van or CCDB)... so much so that I tended to run with the Float rear and didn't think the CCDB was that special. With the Bombers on this changes... the bike now feels much better with the CCDB and the Float R rear makes it feel more harsh.

I've also ridden a Deville back-to-back with my Float. The Deville stands up more than the Float and is less prone to dive (I wrote a piece on here about it). I find the Bomber very like the Float in that it dives a bit as part of it's smoothness... which I like. I did like the Deville... but a friend of mine who is a very hard rider bought a Deville and didn't get on with it... which worried me a little... it didn't like the 12ft drop in the local forest 😈

I'm a bargain hunter so when I saw the Bomber at that price I stopped saving for a Deville which I wasn't 100% sure about... I'm in the honeymoon phase but I'd rather carry the extra 270g of the Bomber than put up with the Float (and if your looking at 2012 36 Floats the 160mm travel has a worse damper than the 180mm, but if you were to reduce the travel on a 180mm to 160mm it would weigh the same as the Ti sprung Bomber... go figure :mrgreen: ).

I've not really tried Lyrik's.


 
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Based on Messiah's "honeymoon period" feedback I've just gone and fitted a set of 55 RC3 Ti's to my full suss, and tonight will be my first ride on them. They replaced 2009 36 Floats, and before that I had 36 Vans, so I'm looking forward to seeing how the 55's compare. By all accounts they should feel awesome 😀


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 2:33 pm
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my t1 rc3 55's are the best for of its kind i have used 🙂


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 2:35 pm
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Used to have Fox VAN RC2s - excellent forks til the damper exploded, but that was 4 years in 🙂
Had a set of Lyrik RC2DH, but the anodizing wore off the stantions within a month, went back to the shop
Now running 2011 55 RC3ti - excellent forks, no dramas, just work and work very well. Tons of grip, easy to tune, stiff as f*ck. Recommended 🙂


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 2:58 pm
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crashtest - they were brought over for me on a flight over the weekend and are sitting in my dining room waiting for me to get a new headset top cup fitted. Total and utter bargain to be honest.

At the price they are listed at hucknroll, I'd have had them posted and been willing to accept charges - from the online calculators, I think the duty/VAT would be around £70.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:19 pm
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Here are my 55 RC3 Ti Evo forks in action. Best forks I've used.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:21 pm
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Those of you with the marz-s, how did you go about setting them up please? The instructions are a bit vague!! I'm assuming I use the coil preload to set the sag to 25% or so and try to avoid the air preload?


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:03 pm
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Yes I just use coil preload on mine. I don't add any air.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:04 pm
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Thanks Ed. looking forward to trying them out ...


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:20 pm
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Just order the BOS fork direct from BOS. My advice, get a fox or Lyrik and get a coil shock and have it tuned for the push link.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:25 pm
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Here are my 55 RC3 Ti Evo forks in action. Best forks I've used.

Are they at the full 170mm, Ed?


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:29 pm
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mine are at 170mm.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:56 pm
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Whats the difference between the RC3s that everyone raves about, and the Micro Ti Air 55s, which I just bought and noone raves about atall!


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 12:10 am
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RC3's are coil and buttery. Divey though. Mico Ti Airs are not as plush, in fact I would never buy air maz forks...it defeats the point.


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 12:45 am
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First ride last night with my new RC3 Ti's and I can now see what all the fuss is about 😀


 
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re: preload - i just use coil preload on mine, no air - air preload made it a bit notchy when i tried some. I'm a big unit too (15.5 stone) and don't feel the need any air preload on mine.


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 9:54 am
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5psi in mine


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 9:57 am
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Running my 2011 55's with no preload. I'm 85kg + a big, big pack! They don't feel plush in the carpark but are so nice on the trails. Interestingly I don't find mine divey at all, in fact one thing that was puzzling me was how they can be so plush without being divey. I find it hard to seperate how the fork does different things but I'm about to try and write a review after using them for a couple of months. Basically I find them very plush, not divey and am finding a lot more front end grip in rough corners. I've surprised myself a few times recently when the bike's gripped and I already had a foot out expecting the front to wash. For me they are better than the Fox 36 Van's in that respect and also I found it hard to tune the 36's so they were plush on smaller stuff and stayed plush for bigger stuff... the 55's seem to do that really well.

Since everyone else is posting their forks in action, here are mine 🙂

I also did a first look with weights, a-c etc for the Marz's vs the Vans if you want: [url= http://www.basquemtb.com/marzocchi-55-ti-rc3-suspension-forks-first-look/ ]Marzocchi 55 Review[/url]


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 10:45 am
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+ 1 on plush but not divey. I had similar problems to you trying to get VAN 36s to feel the same way, but very hard to achieve. The Marzos feel that way out of the box. Awesome


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 10:52 am
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mine are at 170mm.

FWIW - I'm pretty sure your "Rubber Queens blowing off the rim" issue isn't just a bad batch - I had the same thing happen, bang so loud that people thought there'd been a gunshot. And the sidewalls deformed so badly on mine that the tyre couldn't spin in the frame. Otherwise great tyres, but not good enough to ignore all the exploding and deforming.


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 11:10 am
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Like the look of the 55s, but no travel adjust is kind of a deal breaker for me - esp with the 170 meaning my a2c would be even longer.


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 11:10 am
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Thanks all, will be up and running with them soon. Doug, your review was one of the main drives for me buying them so thanks!!


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 3:39 pm
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Mine are 170mm yes. The 55 RC3 Ti is a fixed travel fork and to my mind all the better for that.


 
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Hi Infidel, that's great I'm glad to hear that my review was of use. I bought mine based on Ed-O's advice! Mine was just the mini first look though, I'll be updating over the season as with all my kit.

I don't miss the travel adjust at all. I've had travel adjust forks but my most recent two have been fixed. What some of the locals here do is use a stap to tie the forks down for the climbs and release it at the top. Personally I never feel the need. Besides I couldn't ride round here with ETA on my forks 🙂


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 8:10 pm
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Got a steal on some New 2012 36 Floats! Will see how i go - They are quality - Hope they stand the test of time!

Cheers for everyones input 😆


 
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