£90!
That is all.
May be a supply issue as I'm sure I only paid £60ish for mine?
What're PDWs? Full metal Fenders?
Exchange rate init? 20% slide = 20% increase so £75*1.2 = £90
Think your right Internet says they were £40 at one point. I'd like a set but not that bad.
£90? for mudguards?? What a joke. Just get some SKS. Or a set of[url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/sks-hightrek-mudguard-set/rp-prod25810 ] £7[/url] jobs. They're shitty (literally) mudguards ffs
The Swarf bikes carbon ones are about 100 I think but look about 200... If I could, I would
if you mean the roadie guards then all the reviews and comments on here suggest theyre not even that good, only just clear 23mm tyres and usually needs a bit of modification/extra work to fit well.
It's a fair bit but I'd pay £90 for some quality, well-fitted and better looking guards, PDW don't make the size I'm after though. £90 for good guards could add more to a lot of my riding than a lot of other things I could spend on, saves a lot of wear too. Worth it not to have the crappy flexy things that most cheap guards are.
SKS P35s are good, the wider they get the less I'm impressed by that type though. Edit to add, swarf look good but carbon .. would want to be confident they'd be tough.
I paid 60....
They are the tits.
They are actually quite a bit better than SKS. To allude that they are not shows you have not had the pleasure of seeing some in the flesh....
SKS didn't fit my bike with 40c tires on either ...The pdws do 🙂
There's folk on here happily paying £90 for a tyre..... at least these'll last longer!
I paid approx. £60 for mine about sept last year. Bought to replace SKS longs (which lasted a winter before failure!) They are mush better than SKS ones although you have to take a bit of time and care fitting them (as with all mudguards) to get them to fit right.
I also had to take the front one off and do some repair work by more peining of the rivets to tighten them up and stop the rattle. I only run 23mm tyres though so don't have any issues and they do look lovely for a set of mudguards 🙂 I reckon they've done about 4000 mile so far and are holding up well.
Snapped two rear sks P35s. Never had the slightest problem with Tortec. T carbon guards are out of stock but I'll be adding those to the winter bike eventually. In the meantime it's the cheap sks commuters. In fact I've ridden two days without them as I raced the winter bike on Saturday. The difference in road gloop coating the bike is amazing!
Salmon used to make alloy guards, are they still available?
I paid 75 for mine I'd even pay 90 they are top quality
Any reason why they're £40 better than Velo Orange?
To be honest I didn't look at Velo Orange. The standard answers round these parts is usually SKS or PDW and I've tried both now and the PDW are much nicer, both in quality, materials used, mounting arrangements and most importantly no where near as fiddly to install. As the stays are more or less telescopic they look much 'cleaner' around the wheel as there isn't a bit of stay sticking through past the mudguard. There is also only one set of stays per guard rather than two.
As they are aluminium they are also much nicer to work with and you don't need three pairs of hands to hold them still whilst installing, they don't flop around like SKS
[i]you have not had the pleasure of seeing some in the flesh..[/i]
Some people get pleasure in the wierdest ways. It's what makes the internet so popular. I hate mudguards. Soon as it's dry they're chucked on the garage floor.
Good job you don't live somewhere with a highly variable climate like say- the UK where it pretty much rains on any given day all year round.
Didn't rain yesterday. Not raining today... Mudguards are still on though. Til the dry weather comes then I'll switch to the QR ones.
Hey, people can justify spending stupid money on mudguards all they want. Doesn't mean I have to does it? Not sure what the argument is.
They are actually quite a bit better than SKS. To allude that they are not shows you have not had the pleasure of seeing some in the flesh....
not bothered how they look, it's how they perform and how durable they are that matters. Both mine and Munqe-Chicks SKS have snapped within a few months just in front of the seat stay bridge (mine [i]could[/i] have been bent/stressed by being bolted to the back of seat tube so I left hers loose to avoid that, still broke in the exact same spot...) , so we are getting crap sprayed forwards onto the backs of our legs. MC can get the PDW's at trade so if they are good I might give them a try, but the last few mudguard threads have been less than stellar about them (and we both run 25C's).
I have, rather smugly managed to source alternatives.
Gilles Berthoud guards are the best I've used, but boy are they a pain to fit.
What did you get please Merak?
swarf look good but carbon .. would want to be confident they'd be tough
@jameso they're incredibly tough, there's glass in the layup as well as carbon
^ good to know, thanks. Traveling with a bike with guards seems risky if they cost >£100 .. but they do seem well made.
The PDWs are good, I have a set of both the thin and wide versions (bought when they were £40) but the Velo Orange and GB guards are better, mostly due the rolled edges giving much better water retention thn the PDWs.
As always, proper fitting is the key to longevity and function, and the GB and VO guards ideally need either additional stays or rack mounting to be properly robust. The PDw are a bit thicker Alu and seem to dodge this requirement to some degree...
VO or GB for me, doubly so now that the PDWs have gone up in price, but as Jameso says, you can save the cost of the guards in wear an tear on a drivetrain in pretty short order, let alone the comfort of actually staying dry!
I can vouch for Bedfo and the swarf guards - had a pair for over a year now with no issues at all!
A
Are we talking about the Full Metal Fender? They are $120 on the PDW website.
VO or GB for me
What are GB? I'd like to take a look at them.
I love my swarf guards - they are what get commented on most on my bike
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/new-bike-seven-evergreen-sl
Found the GB guards at sjs. My Google skills are better than I thought.
Dammit, was just about to get a set!
Trailrat, what size did you use for 40c tyres, I see 30mm or 45mm available...
I must have been unlucky with PDWs. I purchased a pair, but the front brake clip separated from the mudguard after less than a year of use. PDW / Charlie The Bike Monger replaced it with a brand new guard, which was good of them. However, after only a couple of months it's started to rattle and I can see that the brake clip rivets are working themselves loose.
Soon as it's dry they're chucked on the garage floor.
you wouldn't chuck the PDWs on to the garage floor as they are too nice...