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[Closed] Singletrack Decide Not To Cover the Danny MacAskill Playboy Video

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We'll done STW!

As a husband of a lady who could kick most of you're mincing backsides on a down hill and the father of a little girl who will be raised to do the same (if she wants), I detest this kind of vid.

Not because of the the sight of skin - come on this is 2014 - there's skin everywhere and it's no big deal. I detest it for the role models it shows to us. Man does pointless (all be it cool) tricks, women fawn over said man.

As a Husband and Dad, I constantly have to support my girls from a never ending stream of this BS. Are men subjugated to this to the same degree?

I'd rather see Danny riding with a cool chick, them both doing awesome tricks , than this sexist junk.

Oh how about we replaced all the girls in the video with men - all acting in the same fawning manner - man that would get the insecure homophobes going!

Its not a harmless piece of fun, it's propaganda to put women back in their place. I feel sorry for Danny for being so naive and I feel sorry for the defenders of the video who cannot relate to the BS their Mums, wives, daughters, lovers etc.. have to put up with every minute of every day.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:26 am
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Now please, stop beating your wife.

GrahamS , you really are a bit special.

So now playboy readers or people who have no problem with such a publication not only can not be respectful of women but are now wife beaters.

That is on top of being compared to jimmy saville on this thread and the other.
Really shows what kind of people we are dealing with here.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:31 am
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Must admit I liked the Asian American's in the clip. Mighty-fine 8)


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:32 am
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I think it's time for my favourite quote which always seems so pertinent in its application to STW..

[i]I hate offended people. They come in two flavours - huffy and whiny - and it's hard to know which is worst. The huffy ones are self-important, narcissistic authoritarians in love with the sound of their own booming disapproval, while the whiny, sparrowlike ones are so annoying and sickly and ill-equipped for life on Earth you just want to smack them round the head until they stop crying and grow up. Combined, they're the very worst people on the planet - 20 times worse than child molesters
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I hadn't seen that video, I don't think I'll actually bother anyway, I like Danny Mac and if he's earned from it then good for him, it's tough enough to make actual cash from being a pro biker I imagine. I'm with the school that think it's a band wagon STW have hitched themselves to. I don't particularly care for their pc attitude either, I'm intelligent enough to make my own decision what to watch, for what it's worth, I also think it's pathetic them blocking links to the Daily Mail on the one hand whilst hosting a forum with infantile threads about pooeing oneself in varying situations on the other, the word hypocrisy springs to mind, still they say there is no such things as bad publicity.

I also agree with this view..

[i]Do Vulpine think they own MacAskill? What is with this nonsense? "He's a role model, so he has to conform to our agenda and be of service to us". How about this as an alternative, he should live for himself.

And let us not forget, they decry him for appearing with Bunny Girls, but "vulpine" means "foxy", that's right, their team is called the Foxy Women's Cycling Team.

Feminists are the sexual perverts I worry about most, because it's their dogmas which infect every corner of society, and to the highest levels of government. They're the misogynists who propagate the view that the women who enjoy their sexual radiance and choose to share that aspect of themselves with the rest of us can't be self-aware and intelligent but must necessarily be victims of male heterosexuality. And it's the Feminists who are the man-haters who relentlessly promote the ideology that healthy male heterosexuality must be suppressed and hidden because it is dangerous, dirty and deviant.[/i]


 
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Feminists are the sexual perverts I worry about most, because it's their dogmas which infect every corner of society, and to the highest levels of government. They're the misogynists who propagate the view that the women who enjoy their sexual radiance and choose to share that aspect of themselves with the rest of us can't be self-aware and intelligent but must necessarily be victims of male heterosexuality. And it's the Feminists who are the man-haters who relentlessly promote the ideology that healthy male heterosexuality must be suppressed and hidden because it is dangerous, dirty and deviant.

That's one of the most idiotic things I've ever read and a classic misrepresentation of feminism.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:37 am
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I hate offended people

Yeah, move along people, I don't like y'all questioning my view on life. I might have to think about someone else for a change.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:39 am
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As a husband of a lady who could kick most of your mincing backsides on a down hill...

Punchy!


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:39 am
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Yep and true


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:41 am
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They do say the best form of defence, is offence.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:42 am
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I just try and get people to open up their minds a bit. But unfortunately that's a hard thing to do as they are afraid of change and. equality with women.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:43 am
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I hate offended people. They come in two flavours - huffy and whiny - and it's hard to know which is worst. The huffy ones are self-important, narcissistic authoritarians in love with the sound of their own booming disapproval, while the whiny, sparrowlike ones are so annoying and sickly and ill-equipped for life on Earth you just want to smack them round the head until they stop crying and grow up. Combined, they're the very worst people on the planet - 20 times worse than child molesters

Seriously? You couldn't articulate quite how unoffended you are so you pick this weaselling pile of shite to Di the job for you. Have you missed the countless posts where it's been pointed out that nobody's fainting with shock.

And chip, I can see why GrhamS' attempt at subtle humour can be so dangerous. If you didn't get that, well, hmmm, I just dunno...


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:46 am
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And chip, I can see why GrhamS' attempt at subtle humour can be so dangerous. If you didn't get that, well, hmmm, I just dunno...

Yep, really shows the kind of people we are dealing with here.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:47 am
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I can't help feeling that all of this could have easily been solved by filming an episode of "This is Peaty" or an episode of Cedric Gracia's "Through my Eyes" at the Playboy mansion rather than a dull video with Danny 😀

The video is very meh for me and isn't what I would associate with Danny. My only issue is it is below Danny's standards previously set in many ways. It is just a bit of a shonky video by his standards. I feel the issue here is Danny himself and in fairness to him we are probably setting too high a set of standards for him as a role model. If if were Ratboy or CG going nuts in the Playboy mansion then chances are no-one would care because the expectations from those guys are completely different. Be far more entertaining too


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:47 am
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And chip, I can see why GrhamS' attempt at subtle humour can be so dangerous. If you didn't get that, well, hmmm, I just dunno

Yes because wife beating is a barrel of laughs.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:50 am
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Yeah let's ignore the sexism here... Nothing to see.... Those women couldn't actually be people. Anyway they probably liked it secretly. Nothing gets a girl going like a guy on a trials bike....


 
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Seriously? You couldn't articulate quite how unoffended you are so you pick this weaselling pile of shite to Di the job for you. Have you missed the countless posts where it's been pointed out that nobody's fainting with shock.

You sound offended, DD, you ok? 8)

Anyway, isn't that a quote from Mr C. Brooker? I thought he was beloved on here?


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:54 am
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GrahamS , you really are a bit special.

So now playboy readers or people who have no problem with such a publication not only can not be respectful of women but are now wife beaters.

I was alluding to the famous example of a [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question ]loaded question[/url]: [i]"Have you stopped beating your wife?"[/i], because that's exactly the type of loaded trap that you and others have tried to set by accusing people of being "offended" and being "prudes".

I'm sorry I had to explain that to you.

Now please, stop murdering kittens.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 9:59 am
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Good point Graham. You had to bring [url= http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_(magazine) ]loaded[/url] into this.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 10:03 am
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Anyway, isn't that a quote from Mr C. Brooker?

Aye, that it be.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 10:04 am
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Someone may have said this earlier: Didn't "stuff" magazine acknowledge recently that having bikini'd models posing lustily with iPods was outdated?

I think that was just their way of admitting that they were fapping over the ipod rather than the model. Phwoar, look at the gigabytes on that!


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 10:08 am
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Yeah let's ignore the sexism here... Nothing to see.... Those women couldn't actually be people. Anyway they probably liked it secretly. Nothing gets a girl going like a guy on a trials bike....

Of Course they're people, what a stupid thing to say.
No they probably did not like it and were disappointed danny did not do the loop d loop.
Danny may be good but every one knows a really long skid is the way to impress the ladies.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 10:12 am
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People (like your mum, wife, daughter, etc..) not just objects fantasy objects. Oh never mind...

Skids are cool *

*except on the trails folks


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 10:18 am
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Not just no , but have you seen my mum all doll'd
Up. They are queing up at the Wednesday afternoon tea dance.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 10:24 am
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because wife beating is a barrel of laughs.

Ah so he has morals as well then just different ones lets mock him mercilessly for this as he does others he considers "offended"
Own petard and all that
That's one of the most idiotic things I've ever read and a classic misrepresentation of feminism.

Its also requires us to butcher the actual meanings of all the words used in the description such as feminism and misogyny. Its a big pile of shite basicaly


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 10:34 am
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What if a mum, wife, daughter etc really wanted to be a Playboy Bunny, it was all they ever dreamed of, attracted to the lifestyle and glamour, worked hard for the opportunity but were stopped from doing so by their son, husband, brother etc because they thought it was a harmful message to be sending out that objectified women.

Would that be ok?


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 10:49 am
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Own petard and all that

Someone smashing their wife in the face is appalling reading playboy is not.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 10:51 am
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So you've stopped then? Good. Now what about those kittens?


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 10:53 am
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chip - two words for you namely 'self' and 'respect'.

HTH 🙂


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 10:53 am
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This is a woman who lives in the real world and acknowledges people including women are sexual beings with sex drives.
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Posted : 05/08/2014 11:07 am
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chip, I'm running out of steam a bit on this, but your understanding of the points that C_G and people are making is so weak that you're just straw-manning in a rather dull way.

No-one disagrees that "women are sexual beings". But the representation of female sexuality and what female sexuality is for is a fairly problematic area for many feminists, and many people would suggest that the representation of female sexual agency that Playboy and its ilk specialise in is not an especially constructive one.

That's enough to put plenty of us off.

That isn't necessarily either a dull or academic set of points, and indeed spending some time appreciating what female constructions of their sexuality which aren't heavily influenced by a very male-centric concept of how women are supposed to relate to sex look like can be downright erotic. It would (I respectfully suggest) be a better use of your time this morning than bickering with actual womenz on here about whether Hugh Hefner is liberating women from patriarchal oppression by paying them to wear little ears.

🙂


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 11:18 am
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Would this thread be as long if the statement had said.

"We're not covering the new Danny M vid cos it's a bit shit and quite tacky"?


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 11:20 am
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What if a mum, wife, daughter etc really wanted to be a Playboy Bunny, it was all they ever dreamed of, attracted to the lifestyle and glamour, worked hard for the opportunity but were stopped from doing so by their son, husband, brother etc because they thought it was a harmful message to be sending out that objectified women.

Would that be ok?

Sorry mate who was talking about stopping people doing what they want to Do?


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 11:22 am
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If you are a woman who does not agree with woman stripping off for the sake of being viewed by others, don't get your kit off .

If you are a man who does not agree with women stripping off for the sake of being viewed , don't do the viewing .

But I think you will find most societies who enforce the above rules are the most oppressive to women of all.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 11:26 am
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people including women are sexual beings with sex drives.

Phew, I'm glad we cleared that up.

You've completely defeated that argument that [i]absolutely no one was making[/i]. Well done.

Here's the [url= http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/ ]UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights[/url] which says women [i]DO[/i] have the right to an education and freedom of thought. Ha!


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 11:28 am
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Chip has any one in the last 6 pages objected about a woman taking her kit off?


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 11:28 am
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Yes unless it's the bunny ears you don't like.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 11:30 am
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Find me a quote then


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 11:32 am
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chip - I started work in the 70's, in an office. Many office walls were adorned with calendars, in a prominent position, of half or mostly naked women. It wasn't just garages or workshops that displayed these calendars. Thank goodness that's no longer acceptable.

I personally feel that Danny Mc has lost his self-respect by having a vid shot in premises owned by an utter sleazebag. Would these women be fawning over Heffner if he wasn't rich? Seriously?

I'm really pleased that tables have been turned and women are no longer exploited in that it's the women exploiting the men for their ... er ... insert your own word here! Women such as Katie Price have made a very lucrative income so this type of work is no longer the preserve of those who're less than bright but had big knockers.

Danny Mc is a role model cum hero for many youngsters, what kind of message is being sent by a. filming it in Heffner Towers and b. why are those women dressed the way they are? Perhaps you could explain titillation to children and explain the attire worn?

I apologise if this comes across as a bit rambled but hopefully you'll get the gist. 🙂


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 11:37 am
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Heff could be a hoot , and a joy to be around for all you know .
And if women are just out for his money who is exploiting who .


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 11:43 am
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So did you find a quote, Chip?


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 11:44 am
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how else do you expect woman (or men in fact) to dress when they are in a pool?

attractive people like to show their bodies off, whats the big ****ing deal here.

There was no titalation in that video, there was less skin on show than what you would see on a spanish beach.

so its ok for woman like Jordan to "exploit" men by getting naked and leaking sex tapes but some guy on a bike can't cycle about a big house with a couple of woman in bikinis.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 11:48 am
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There was no titalation in that video, there was less skin on show than what you would see on a spanish beach.

Yes, because that's the issue here.

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Posted : 05/08/2014 11:52 am
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The big deal is not the attire (get over the clothes thing), the deal is that it plays to and reinforces the idea that women should fawn over some guy riding a bike, rather than riding themselves. I want to encourage more girls to ride bikes, videos like this have the opposite effect.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 11:55 am
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Katie Price Aka Jordan is ok but Playboy bunnies are not? Mixed message C_G.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 11:56 am
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So did you find a quote, Chip?

Really! This whole thread is about the boycott of Danny's film because of its association with playboy.
So if it is not playboys publication of naked women you have a problem with, what is it.

Is this disappointment and boycott of Danny's films going to be an ongoing thing here or will all be forgiven in time for his next film .


 
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