[Closed] Singletrack Decide Not To Cover the Danny MacAskill Playboy Video

There was no titalation in that video, there was less skin on show than what you would see on a spanish beach.

If you really think those two things are the same then you're just a bit dim aren't you.

Really! This whole thread is about the boycott of Danny's film because of its association with playboy.
So if it is not playboys publication of naked women you have a problem with, what is it.

Still haven't found a quote, then?

The exploited here are not the women in the video. They are most likely being paid large amounts of money and are probably quite happy about that. The video is produced by Red Bull and it has cost them money to arrange, shoot, edit and distribute. You get to watch it for free.

So what is it for?

It's designed to attract the maximum number of eyeballs and it does this by resorting to the cheapest gag in the marketing manual - sex.

The women are not being exploited and neither is Danny. Both of those parties are probably chuckling all the way to the bank. It's the male viewing public who are being exploited by having Red Bull pluck their basest of strings that makes them go 'Phwoooar'.

Danny isn't the product. The women are not the product. They are tools used to reach the product and in this case it's you.

It's as sophisticated as taking a logo, drawing it on a pair of tits and putting up on a billboard. THAT will get the most eyeballs on your product, guaranteed.

I can appreciate that trick - it's incredibly powerful. The thing I find misguided about the use of that marketing tool in this case is how it is intended to target a single sex when our sport is open to both. It has used a cheap, outdated trick and in the process has managed to pretty much exclude an already under represented half of the population.

Well said Mark.

I vote to just close the thread now - it's going nowhere.

Katie Price Aka Jordan is ok but Playboy bunnies are not? Mixed message C_G.

Not a mixed message at all, I'm happy that both KP and bunny girls enjoy a lucrative living. The key issue here is context, in other words why does Danny Mc feel the need to do his thing in that place with those bunny girls and all its connotations.

Someone smashing their wife in the face is appalling reading playboy is not

So you are offended by wife beating- all your "arguments" work there

If you are a woman who does not agree with woman stripping off for the sake of being viewed by others, don't get your kit off .

If you are a man who does not agree with women stripping off for the sake of being viewed , don't do the viewing

If you object to wife beating dont beat your wife
If you object to wife beating dont watch others do it

Own petard and all that

For the triumph of evil all that is necessary ifs good people do nothing I assume you dont want us to do nothing about the later just the bit you dont mind.

Danny Mc is a role model cum hero

Katie Price Aka Jordan is ok but Playboy bunnies are not? Mixed message C_G.

I can see why you might differentiate people who are tiny, disposable cogs in someone else's machine, with no real control over their promotion and very little access to the rewards of it, and someone who has come up through a similarly structured ("glamour") industry, established themselves sufficiently to be able to take control over their own image and marketing and has made ridiculous amounts of dosh on their own terms with it.

As an aside, has an industry ever been as misnamed as the "glamour" one?

My stepdaughter who'se 14 loves this movie.
Maybe a few of you should watch it.

Agreed, well said Mark.

The thing I find misguided about the use of that marketing tool in this case is how it is intended to target a single sex when our sport is open to both. It has used a cheap, outdated trick and in the process has managed to pretty much exclude an already under represented half of the population.

I don't agreee with that at all.... It's a very simplistic and rather old fashioned view IMO.

In todays world, where the standard sexual orientation is accepted alongside LGBT orientations, an image of a beautiful girl is no longer limited to appreciation from the males of the species.. Many women are quite happy to appreciate the female form..

It may be Mark's view that this is detrimental to equality of the sexes but has he actually taken the time to ask girls what they think? Or is he making assumptions based on his own out of date and out of touch views. ?

The thing I find misguided about the use of that marketing tool in this case is how it is intended to target a single sex when our sport is open to both. It has used a cheap, outdated trick and in the process has managed to pretty much exclude an already under represented half of the population.

This sort of sums it up for me...

...what's bugging me is that this thread has ground on for seven pages of outrage. Why are we continuing to debate this? Surely our collective outrage would be better directed elsewhere - for example I give it at least fifteen minutes before someone announces yet another standard we don't want/need just for the sake of it.

has he actually taken the time to ask girls what they think?

You mean apart from the girls that have expressed their support for his viewpoint on this thread and on Facebook and twitter?

In todays world, where the standard sexual orientation is accepted alongside LGBT orientations, an image of a beautiful girl is no longer limited to appreciation from the males of the species.. Many women are quite happy to appreciate the female form..

I've just asked a gay friend what she thinks of the video. Would you care to guess her answer?

It may be Mark's view that this is detrimental to equality of the sexes but has he actually taken the time to ask girls what they think?

There's only a few of us girlies on here! On a serious note you can just end up rolling your eyes with the sometimes everyday sexism experienced. I'm no feminist but just a little tired of people deferring to a male for a question to be answered when the female is capable of answering it. 😐

In todays world, where the standard sexual orientation is accepted alongside LGBT orientations, an image of a beautiful girl is no longer limited to appreciation from the males of the species.. Many women are quite happy to appreciate the female form..

I could be wrong, but kinda doubt it.

S****s like a teenage boy

I thought I was the only one....

🙂

I'm no feminist but just a little tired of people deferring to a male for a question to be answered when the female is capable of answering it

With the bloke though you get the correct answer instead of the opinionated clap-trap the woman tries to pass off as the correct answer ?

I've just asked a gay friend what she thinks of the video. Would you care to guess her answer?

Danny who ?

Oh gosh, penny has just dropped. 😳

With the bloke though you get the correct answer instead of the opinionated clap-trap the woman tries to pass off as the correct answer ?

Hey, no need for that!

Hey, no need for that!

I was bored and fancied plummeting a ridiculous thread even further into the depths of it's own arse

For the triumph of evil all that is necessary ifs good people do nothing I assume you dont want us to do nothing about the later just the bit you dont mind.

Playboy bunnies are not evil , danny is not evil, hugh is not evil.
Pornography is not evil.

With the bloke though you get the correct answer instead of the opinionated clap-trap the woman tries to pass off as the correct answer ?

Seriously dude? Which century do you come from?

Seriously dude? Which century do you come from?

Sorry, I thought this was a forum, I didn't know we had to be serious with every post written.

I'll go back to the cum hero post... it's still making me laugh

TIC response shirley?

Playboy bunnies are not evil , danny is not evil, hugh is not evil.
Pornography is not evil.

Congratulations!

That's now the third, fourth, fifth and sixth arguments that [i]no one is making[/i] which you've managed to contest.

Four more and you get the TJ & Fred Commemorative Plate.

I was bored and fancied plummeting a ridiculous thread even further into the depths of it's own arse

Nice, so nothing useful to say. Carry on everyone .. we don't want girls ruining our fun now , do we.

As defences of Hugh Hefner go, "[i]hypothetical lesbians love his work[/i]" has chutzpah.

🙂

Sorry, I thought this was a forum, I didn't know we had to be serious with every post written.

Yeah, this equality thing, it's only a bit of a larf, innit. Relax!

All the people who agreed with stw stance , it is not because they have a problem with glamour models or the glamour industry , porn stars or porn industry or any one who views it.

But have a problem with danny riding a bike near any of the above in case it puts women off riding a bycicle.

I hope the waters continue to clear .

I've seen porn with women covered in baked beans... it hasn't put me off baked beans...

Why exactly would this vid put women off riding bicycles ?

All the people who agreed with stw stance , it is not because they have a problem with glamour models or the glamour industry , porn stars or porn industry or any one who views it.

But have a problem with danny riding a bike near any of the above in case it puts women off riding a bycicle.

Good... You're getting a bit warmer now...

Good man Chip, your getting closer. Well done.

Our sport should be encouraging to everyone and not say girls do this and boys to that. Or indeed infer that to be the case as in this video.

For me it's the tacit support of an industry that maintains a ridiculous standard of what is attractive.

There has been talk of 'empowerment' for those that choose to be in this industry, but imo it is NOT empowering for women par se as there is still a very prescriptive view of beauty in this industry. Just look at the lengths some women go to to achieve this 'standard'.

Ahhh, but maybe it will encourage playboy bunnies to ride theirs.

A good thing surely.

Why exactly would this vid put women off riding bicycles ?

Because, as one of the actual wimmin-folk I quoted earlier said, doing tacky waaaheeey-boooobies videos [i]"further embeds the notion that mtb is a male sport"[/i].

Why exactly would this vid put women off riding bicycles ?

Because it sets the expectation that women who are attractive should be covered in baked beans (I mean frolicking in the pool) rather than riding a bike. This is very frustrating to Those cool souls who want to ride/do ride.

It's not like this is a one-time thing. It's pervasive in our society. It's carp, let's change it.

Ahhh, but maybe it will encourage playboy bunnies to ride theirs.

Actually I'm pretty sure there is (or used to be) a "Playmate Xtreem Team" or something which did mountain biking, adventure racing etc.

Not going to search for that at work though!

Because it sets the expectation that women who are attractive should be covered in baked beans (I mean frolicking in the pool) rather than riding a bike. This is very frustrating to Those cool souls who want to ride/do ride.

It's not like this is a one-time thing. It's pervasive in our society. It's carp, let's change it.

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See I just don't get that... I can't imagine how this can even enter a persons mind.

Mrs Weeksy rides bikes, not often but occasionally... watching the vid won't change this for her.

Actually I'm pretty sure there is (or used to be) a "Playmate Xtreem Team" or something which did mountain biking, adventure racing etc.

You think correct sir. My adolescent self remembers seeing an article in MBUK about them a lot of years ago.

But have a problem with danny riding a bike near any of the above in case it puts women off riding a bycicle.

seriously? how would that video put woman off cycling? no one with any sort of common sense or a brain would be put off cycling (trials riding more accurate) by that video. The wife watched it and never commented on the ladies in the bikini'a and neither did my 9 year old son. I didn't even pay attention to them either as I was watching the rider. This stupid feminist attitude has no place in todays society.

and round we go again....

Don't underestimate the influence that video has.

After watching it, I started walking round town in a bunny uniform.

I have to report to the police station on Thursday 😡

This stupid feminist attitude has no place in todays society.

Yeah, I can't stand feminism - anyone who believes in it is an idiot.

Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending a state of equal political, economic, cultural, and social rights for women.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women.

😡 😡 😡

That's why I mentioned it is all pervasive.

Sure Mrs Weeksy won't stop but she's lucky she'sgot you to encourage her. There are many many other girls who are encouraged to be the girls in the pool without support to do other kick butt things considered non girly.

Even my lass feels the pressure and she's as hard as nails.

Let's not encourage it.

Additionally it tells the boys watching this that, that is what they should look for in a girl. That ain't helping either.