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just been looking on CRC who've now put their prices up in line with the recent increases. The shimano xt cassette i was thinking of buying at £40 is now £63. an xt crankset will set you back £165 (rrp 205). an xtr crankset is a mighty whopping £344 !! rrp £430!! I built my whole bike up for just under less than twice that. I'd better not break anything.... do you think they'll come back down again?


 
Posted : 09/02/2009 11:49 pm
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Wow no-one has ever mentioned this before.


 
Posted : 09/02/2009 11:52 pm
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[url= http://www.advfn.com/p.php?pid=qkchart&symbol=FX^GBPJPY&period=8&freq=6 ]Sterling vs Yen[/url]


 
Posted : 09/02/2009 11:53 pm
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it happened a couple of days ago, got the word through my lbs, gutted, crc cant afford to charge that much so they are definately keeping their prices as low as poss i reckon!


 
Posted : 09/02/2009 11:54 pm
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I read it as sickening shampoo rises (mild dislexia I think). Mildly disappointed it wasn't about Vo5


 
Posted : 09/02/2009 11:58 pm
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For possibly the first time ever, most of our cassettes are now cheaper than at CRC and Wiggle 🙂


 
Posted : 09/02/2009 11:59 pm
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i know its been talked about before but its one of those things - until it happens you dont really think it'll be that bad. by the way grumm if youre bored why dont you answer the question of if and when prices will go back down


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:00 am
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I bet Campag are pissed off that they din't bother with MTB stuff, now!

Euclid. It looked beautiful...

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Posted : 10/02/2009 12:01 am
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"I bet Campag are pissed off that they din't bother with MTB stuff, now!"

Well we're not doing much better against the Euro are we?


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:05 am
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Well according to that graph the pound is on the way back up against the yen - got a long way to go though.


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:07 am
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Maybe not, but not as bad as the Yen!

Besides, Campag stuff always looked nicer than Shimano. Apart from original XTR.

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Posted : 10/02/2009 12:08 am
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that yumeya stuff for XTR costs about £660 for the full set accrding to my mate. all for a it of pimpery...

glad i've got a SS and a rohloff :p


 
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Not all Shimano gear is ugly: -
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Posted : 10/02/2009 12:12 am
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I've noticed the drivetrain components are up most - brakes still seem to be the same price as they were last week, is this temporary until cheap stock dries up?


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:13 am
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Hollow big ring on that one too. Nicest looking bike part I've ever seen I reckon.


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:14 am
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That sounds plausible bomberman - I'd imagine drivetrain stuff sells more quickly than brakes so probably shows price changes first.


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:15 am
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so it's get the old stock while you can time?


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:18 am
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Actually, I prefer the older Dura- Ace cranks, square taper ones. They were svelte and pretty. Not too sure about this new type stuff. If it were all plain alloy, I'd prefer it. Not a fan of this two-tone stuff. I should be, really, with a name like Rude Boy. But I'm not.

These are quite possibly the most beautiful bike components I've seen:

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Posted : 10/02/2009 12:19 am
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My mate went to the lbs for some XT b. pads. Just in time as well it would seem cause the prices have just gone from £20 to £27 a pair!!!!


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:21 am
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Couldn't give a **** really to be honest. It was obvious it was coming.Then CRC had that flood sale, quality sram cassettes were £15, plenty of cheap cranksets too, my new one cost £45 quid. And in six months or maybe at the most a year I honestly believe that lots of shops will have lots of unsold stock. Make them an offer.


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:22 am
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*puts XT cassette and chainset on classifieds*

Euclid was beautiful. Wonder what's happening to XO prices?


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:23 am
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Ah, yes, CRC's 'Flood Sale'.

Was that real, or just a way of clearing their warehouse of older stock, to make way for loads of newer stuff, that they could buy in cheap, then sell at the new inflated prices?

I noticed that most of the 'flood sale' items were older or obscure items, rather than the latest bits. And I found it strange, that similar items were priced very different; do CRC store chainsets in different places, for example? Older LX in a different part of the warehouses, to newer ones, or whatever?

Hmm...

Then of course there was the Planet X C+E fiasco...

Cynical? Moi?


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:26 am
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What bugs me is when shops raise the prices on stuff they already had in stock (both the local stores have done it). Grrrrrr.

I'd not be surprised if the prices didn't come down again for quite some time.


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:28 am
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"I noticed that most of the 'flood sale' items were older or obscure items"

LOL, me too. Silver 1" 130mm thomson stems seem to have been stored below the waterline, but 1 1/8" 90mm black ones were above. Fluoro green bashrings below; black ones above.


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:30 am
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" Fluoro green bashrings below; black ones above."

I reckon the yoot may disagree on that one, value wise...(this season)

Anyway, lets hear who has been caught out by the inevitable money grubbing excuse utilising price rises, and why they give a **** that overpriced shite relative to the market availability of "dead stock", ie last or a few years ago issue product is vastly inferior to the great leaps in technology explored by our friend Shimano over the last twelve months.

My sympathy lies with shops and busineses being shafted by their product suppliers, but when it comes down to it, they are trying to make money, i'm trying to save it.


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:56 am
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£62 for an XT rear mech...!!!
FFS.
That SLX stuff looks ok.


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 1:16 am
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Well this just prompted me to buy a new XT chain from Merlin before their prices get bumped too.
And I'm glad I didn't flog the spare unused XT mech after trashing mine this weekend.


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 3:17 am
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Glad I bought loads of cassettes and chains and a few chain sets from the CRC flood sale. They ought to do me for a few years! 😆


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 7:34 am
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"I noticed that most of the 'flood sale' items were older or obscure items"

Its standard practice within many warehouses to consolidate less frequently picked stock and this often done during a stock restructure to make space for new lines with high expected turn-over. As a result the less frequently picked lines are often moved to less desirable locations (for speed of picking from), which generally means very low or very high locations.


 
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hahaha I see what you've done there.


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 7:54 am
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rather glad I run a rohloff and middleburn or SS set up now... 🙂

except for the XTR brakes, but they dont have any consummable parts other than pads, and with people like mtb-direct around low price fair quality ones will always be available.

Most furtle through my parts bin for any spare shimano gear. Think Ive got an XTR mech somewhere..., gold mine!


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 8:46 am
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You should be able to get an XT cassette for about £35. I ordered one yesterday from Evans.


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 9:46 am
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Should work out to be approx a 35% price rise?


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 9:56 am
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Question is. When the pound climbs back up (it will), will the Distributors drop their prices by the same £.v.Yen difference?


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 10:00 am
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Is it all Shimano stuff or are the majority of price rises on XT?


 
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I noticed that most of the 'flood sale' items were older or obscure items, rather than the latest bits. And I found it strange, that similar items were priced very different; do CRC store chainsets in different places, for example?

As has been pointed out before, most of the 'good' stuff went very quickly - I was lucky enough to get on just after most of the flood stock was added and picked up some bargains on bits that definitely weren't 'end of line' sorts of things - eg hope brakes, rotors, etc.

It's not really a suprise that with CRC's customer base, very quickly, all that was left in the flood sale was the less desirable stuff...


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 10:06 am
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Question is. When the pound climbs back up (it will), will the Distributors drop their prices by the same £.v.Yen difference?

Answer is that part prices were at about the lowest price they've ever been in real terms. Goes for most imported good. Look at the bang for buck value of just about anything technologically driven.
Petrol prices came down a lot didn't they- didn't make too many front page headlines though when it hit low 80's a litre.


 
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Is it all Shimano stuff or are the majority of price rises on XT?

Frigging SLX double cranks I wanted went up overnight from £80 to £100 on Merlin and CRC. All the price changes seem to have been applied to existing stock as well as resupplies which pisse me off a bit, though is reasonably understandable.


 
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Hmmm, is it time to panic buy a couple of £39.99 XT cassettes i wonder?*

*Nah.


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 10:16 am
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I posted about this at the end of last week. Tried to buy an ultegra sl rear mech and the shops web site wouldn't work - next day the the mech was over £30 dearer. Fortunately found one on ukbikestore at 'old' prices. Same with an ultegra sl chainset, up from £130ish to over £180 at most places - bought from Evans again at old prices though. These are massive price rises though and pretty hard to take. Just need a htII bb and a front mech and thats my drivetrain spending, apart from chain and cassette, done for a while.


 
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Been buying the XTR stuff, I have been promising my self for years, over the over the last month or so, very pleased with myself right now 🙂 Prices like a new chainset £205. The whole lot, chainset, mechs, cassette, shifters and chain only (only....lol) cost me just over £500. Just waiting for the new frame and away we go.
Still, can't wait for when I need to replace something 🙁


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 10:19 am
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Could always "slum" it and use Deore or LX till prices come back down. Poor little darlings, how do you cope?


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 10:26 am
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There must come a point where its more cheaper to make this stuff in the UK? I'm not talking about 'protectionism', its just economics. Surely someone could make an XT level cassette here that would retail for less than the 80 RRP??

i'm being hopelessly optimistic aren't i?


 
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Could always "slum" it and use Deore or LX till prices come back down. Poor little darlings, how do you cope?

seconded! deore chainrings will last you longer anyway, and there is plenty abouton classifieds or ebay in the way of mechs, brakes etc. The only brand new shimano-ey stuff i ever buy now is chains cassettes and chainrings. Best buy up some sram whilst its still relatively unaffected. Bike manintenance products sales should go through the roof though! the amount of wear on my less tidy mates' bikes compared to mine on the same rides is startling. And i do not keep my bikes [i]that[/i] clean either.

I feel sorry for the bike shops as i am sure shimano will easliy suck up the huge drop in sales in only one country (euro seems far more buoyant, Germans far more likely to swallow price rises to have matching components on their bikes etc) but this must be a large chunk of overall revenue for a lot of smaller shops.


 
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Wowzers.... I bought some 09 RS Lyrik Coil U Turns in the 1st week of January, glad I got them when I did, they've now gone from £548 to £770 on CRC!!


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 11:59 am
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What particularly bugs me about Shimano stuff is the fact that you can't replace the bearings in a HT2 BB. £50 for some cheap bearings and a couple of aluminium shells is just bonkers!
Better for them to sell a whole new unit. Better for consumers and environment to just replace the worn bit.


 
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What particularly bugs me about Shimano stuff is the fact that you can't replace the bearings in a HT2 BB

Yes you can. My XTHT2 cups are running Phil Wood bearings.


 
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What particularly bugs me about Shimano stuff is the fact that you can't replace the bearings in a HT2 BB

if you have a funny expanding collett tool (like the one Phillips has just ordered, yay!) to extract the bearings you can replace them with vastly superior phil wood or enduro bearings. Dunno about the phil wood ones but the enduro ones are £20. I think with shimano's price versus longevity this is really the way forward. And its nice to give money to smaller companies via smaller bike shops for this.


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 12:47 pm
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Those Campag brakes are the best looking bike component. Oh God, I agree with RudeFred. I'll be bumming Hora's dog next...


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 1:19 pm
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New bearings all round then!


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 1:22 pm
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Well, I'm feeling half smug as I ordered 2 XT cassettes on Sunday from CRC for £39 each - noticed Wiggle and RRP prices were much higher so decided to stock up. Also managed it with chains in the CRC flood sale. Knowing my luck though, the prices will have come back down before I need to use them!!

Was still caught out by disk pads though - last time I got some they were £12 for xt, but now they are £22!! That seems a lot for what they are.


 
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merlin still have them for 39 i thought i'd better get one before they disappeared! which is really silly because it's to go on the pro 2 wheelset that is now going to take me longer to attain due to being 40 quid out of pocket! duuuuuuuuuh... if only hope freehubs weren't made of cheese.


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 5:16 pm
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IHN, I've had a word. Hes bumming you tonight.


 
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Build a single speed!


 
Posted : 10/02/2009 6:05 pm