[Closed] Sick! Bicycle - hardcore slack 29er - steel loveliness

We weren't going to worry about posting too many details about geo as we're more of a firm believer of "if a bike rides well, does the pub-talk really matter?"

But here's the basics!
Head Angle: SLACK AF (or 62.5 degrees in real language)
Wheelbase: LONG AF (or 1257mm)
Seat-tube angle: STICKY UPPY SO YOU CAN CLIMB (ehem, 74.5 degrees)
Reach: NOICE (511mm)

Note, these are for the BIG frame (that's actually our regular), we're finalising a larger frame for the high-towers of the world that's a little longer, has a slightly higher seat tower and longer reach.

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Music in the video makes me feel Sick!

where do you hide the 3ft seatpost needed to ride uphill?

It may be the best frame in the world, but their Graphic Designer/marketing person needs to pass their GCSEs before being allowed to carry on.

So much cringe.

My first comment was going to be seatpost related, looks great in the photos but is said that enduro etc can be done which requires a decent saddle height, never seen an enduro race where a rider stood up for every ascent and descent

Apart from the odd looks and ironic name it makes a fair bit of sense. I can see this sort of thing from a bigger manufacturer in 2-3 seasons. It's like a BTR, but more 'yah dude!'

I'm still not in though, too much money for me. And too 'rad'

Interesting, but even if I had £800 to splash on a steel HT, I'd want a full geometry chart first.

I'm a bit of a steel HT fan, but that looks awkward AF and all out of proportion

They say it climbs well, but not for how long you are supposed to keep it up.

Bizarre.

ETA the T-shirt gives it away:
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Looks like a DJ frame.
The ST/TT junction is far too low aesthetically. I also wonder if the ST is too short to run a dropper fully extended without exceeding the minimum insertion..

Good price though and would love to have a go.

that Bill Bailey can turn his hand to anything...

I really like the branding/teeshirt but not the bike so much. Yes more details on geo would be nice.

I have long legs..
therefore I am out

looks like tons bike where he sat down too quick 😉 sorry ton 🙂

That seat-tube is clearly not designed with [i]anyone's[/i] inside leg measurement in mind.

i really like the tshirt!

You know when a bike just looks 'right'.

Yeh? This isn't one of those times...

it does look like it's straining to push out a stubborn poo. But seatposts can be pretty long, the 480mm Reverb's too big for a lot of frames but it'd be quite at home in that. Or a 560mm, 200mm Fall Line. it's not like it'll look any dafter.

Is it me or..
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Dammit, got to pledge a tenner for one of these!
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Saddle height looks good, but not sure my 4yo has long enough arms to reach the bars.

"Watch out for that tree, bro!"

I'm tempted, but it's twice the price of a Last FF, and there's something really annoying about the way the TT and chainstay meet at an angle instead of a straight line.

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I just want the top tube and seat stays to run in a straight line, I think that would look badass. I'm surprised how high the BB looks too.

Regarding the geometry, I went down the slack and long route with my own hardtail, starting with a -2 deg headset and 130mm fork, then a -0.5 deg external lower cup and 140mm fork and now a standard zero stack headset and 150mm fork, so the bike has become progressively shorter in reach and steeper of head angle (particularly at sag). It's still fairly long (about 450mm reach) but not that slack, maybe 66.5 or 67 sagged. For the terrain it's best on it just seems to work better with less rad geometry.

My full-sus has gone the other way, now sitting at a sub 64 deg head angle and riding great. The reach is shorter but the stem is longer too (50 vs 35mm) and it has massive bars (810 vs 750mm).

I'm currently a bit perplexed at why the full-sus rides better slacked out and the hardtail better steeper. However Sick Bicycles are only a few miles away and a mate's already given the prototype a go so I may get to see how it feels quite soon!

They're only a couple of streets away from my house which was a surprise. It's an interesting bike that's for sure. They're WAY too cool for the likes of me but I can't fault the ambition and enthusiasm. 8)

Jimbo (Hummerlicious from this parish) took one for a spin, he was pretty impressed.

[url= https://sussexmtb.southdownshosting.co.uk/2017/06/04/sick-bicycle-company/ ]Jimbo's thoughts.[/url]

I love the T shirts though, want one

there doesn't seem to be much bb drop for a 29er 😕

Being fat, old and fat I prefer full suspension & lots of it. I doubt I'm the target audience though.

Yeah......good luck to them it it's not my cup of tea at all........and I'm the only person in the world who likes the new Nomad.... 😯

With optional basket and flowers:
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I just keep looking at that and thinkign how little it'd take to un**** the toptube/chainstay line, it'd make bugger all difference to standover and wouldn't even need a longer seat tube.

Didn't someone make a CX bike along those lines without a saddle?

With it being a UK handbuilt frame, I'd be suprised if they wouldn't let you add a few CM to the ST and move that SS & TT junction up a bit.

I don't think it's helped by the fact they seem to be running a BMX/jump bike saddle. That wouldn't be comfy to sit on for a [s]long[/s]any climb.

Edit: this frames on Kickstarter ([url= https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nordestbardino/nordest-bardino-enduro-hardtail-mountain-bike?ref=recs ]HERE) [/url]looks nice. Geo not as radical, but only 500 euros.

Sorry to say, no matter how well it rides, it looks f*cking disgusting.

It's hard to make a hardtail look sh*t. Somehow they have managed it. Looks like a massive fat person sat on a normal bike & crushed it.

Yup. I'm a serial buyer of ugly bikes but even I have limits. It's actually uglier than my Ellsworth, in some ways, just because it works so hard at spoling something that is just naturally nice to look at.

I like it - I hope Sick Bicycle Co do well . .

Updated geometry with large size.

Bit confused on this... They're now showing a geo chart for a different looking frame with braced seat tube.

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Seems it's a "gen 2" version that "fits more people"

Did this guy just do a few day long framebuilding course and is trying to sell his first ever frames as a kickstarter? i.e he's only ever built one frame and is calling himself a framebuilder?

'ang on, that geometry chart seems to measure the reach from the BB, to the [i]bottom [/i] of the headset...?

Its also now got a 71 degree seat angle which is a little different from the original marketing as far as I can recall. Seems a bit of a shambles.

Says in the comments that the original version is still available.

Agree it's a bit of a mess though, there's no geometry on the Kickstarter page for the "original" version, not any mention of theire being two versions. Just lots of pics of one bike and the geo and specs for another.

It's also not drilled for a stealth dropper, as they reckon that weakens the frame. Speccing a Magura Vyron instead....no thanks.

Makes a bit more sense now, there's a piece in "updates" about the changes they've made to the frame, including improving aesthetics by straightening out the line of seatstay/top tube, and then messing them up again by bracing the seat tube.

Makes no mantion of taking 3.5 degrees off the seat angle, though, which is a major negative in my eyes - steep seat angle and long reach were the main good things about the original layout.

No tah.

It's black looks poo (really poo), the brand and model names are both awful. The lack of information re geo is odd. Mixed in with lack of communication about another model etc it all seems like a really bad joke.

As previously mentioned by others, looks like a GCSE project. It's amazing what people will stump up for on these Kickstarter style sites.

I could [i]almost[/i] make some stereotypical assumptions on the owners of said bike brand/school project, based on that alone. A quick scoot to Instagram pretty much confirms the stereotype.

Who buys this sh1t?

Original geometry:

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New/large geometry:

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I am so confused!

On both diagrams the seat tube angle appears to include the seatpost layback.

I don't know why the geometry has been changed so much? If the first one rides well then give it a longer seat tube, maybe add a longer reach version too, and leave it be. I'm not sure why the head angle has been steepened so much, seat angle slackened even more, chainstay lengthened and bottom bracket raised...

I was interested in this. I know their prototype works as I have seen Strava times (so it must be true 🙂 ) of someone who had a go and they certainly got my attention. When I saw the original I thought all I wanted was a longer seat tube (no numbers available but I've made a guesstimate theirs is well under 400mm) and a hole for a stealth dropper and I'd be very tempted to take a chance on it. But everything is a little too vague for me, a slacker seat tube isn't what I want and I'm a bit skint so I keep checking on the Kickstarter but haven't put my hand in my pocket

£2990. Is that right ?

Having read/deciphered some more of the Kickstarter page, jus prior to getting an aneurysm from all the bro talk, it also implies the frames are, after the initial runs, the frames at £900 are discounted?

Sounds like +/- £1000 for a frame then?

Yep. Good luck with that.

Can't really see what this brings that my NS doesn't for cheaper? Ok not quite as slack HA but 65º is enough surely!
The brand name actually puts me off and as above the toptube/seatstay arrangement is so close, yet so far!
Sick = ill = unwell. It looks it! I'm not MCA!

I wish the guys well but no way would I commit money to this in a kickstarter.
Needs some clarity on geometry. As above, the 'reach' measured to the bottom of the HT is a tad unusual. The ST angle slacking back to 71 is going to wreck the climbing ability as well as making horribly stretched out.
They could really do with finding a way to stealth route the dropper too.

Apparently they've done both physical testing and 'FMEA'. Well I'm sold.

where do you hide the 3ft seatpost needed to ride uphill?

Not a big fan of the bike but wish them well. And re: marketing needing pass their GCSEs - feels like a weird and unfair comment. Again, personally I hate the brand name etc but I think the writing is on point for what I assume to be their target market. I'd say well done to the marketing guy 🙂

For all the marketing, they're still only half way to being funded with five days left

So they didn't make it.. £8414 pledged out of a target of £16000.. just 5 frames in that total.

Wonder what happens with them now. Bit of a shame really, think the prototype was a tweak or two away from being very nice.

Aha... not dead it seems:

What happens next?

We will be honoring the Kickstarter prices for orders on the frames. We will attempt to contact you, or you can message us here, although chances are we have already been talking!

On July 1st, we will be launching our online store. If you have pledged on Kickstarter for anything, you will receive a discount code that mirrors the prices offered in the crowdfunding campaign.

If you loved the tees and hoodies don't worry; they will be for sale on the store too!

There will be a choice of 4 different frames, 2 hardtail and 2 full suspension.

As well as the above, there will be 2 build kits available. So yes, full bikes will be available, ready to ride, with a few customisation options too.

They're suspension designers too now?

They were talking from the start about a full suss bike.

Good luck to them. I like the look of the v2 frame.

The full sus might be good they got Mike McD involved making some bits for it and he knows his onions.

Good luck to them, I'm sure they've learned a huge amount and having done something similar I know what it's like to do all this stuff in the public domain while trying to hold down a full time job doing something completely different (I'm assuming). Not everyone can be on social media or updating the website full time so the gaps are understandable.

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About time somebody named a bike The Gnarpoon 😆

Theyre still talking a good game anyhow. Hopefully they produce the interesting bikes they're promising and not the watered down ones they offered on Kickstarter.

I stopped at "here at Dirt we've already consigned hardtails to the antiques bin" can't be anything else worth reading after that load of bollocks.

Jeebus! What happened to Dirt? They used to be alright.

my aspiration is to be something like Specialized, or Trek, or Brooklyn Machine Works