Anyone got any suggestions for diets that are pretty good at shifting stubborn fat.
Been doing well for the past 6-8months by limiting my starchy cards (maybe just one portion each of spuds, wholeweat pasta and rice per week. Ok, maybe wholeweat pasta a little more often; but eating mostly cerials, lean meat and fish and veg.
While I have seen results, they have been slow. But more to the point, 8 weeks off training due to injury has sent me back a few steps.
Any pointers (my life style means following a plan can be accommodated quite easily) or recomendations for what has worked for others, much apreciated.....
Psychle and iDave to the thread(s) please.
I've lost 2 stone in two months.
I have been counting calories and eating no more than 1000 per day. It works for me. Oh and no white carbs or not many anyway.
Rupert - try to keep a constant weight while you're not exercising. This means maintaining what you're doing, or possibly cutting back a little more.
Focus on recovering from youtr injury and easing yoursel;f back into exercise.
(I've started my diet this week - usual calorie counting stuff. Not exciting, and wiped me out for today's commute, but it ought to do the trick.)
no carbs in the evening
I have been counting calories and eating no more than 1000 per day. It works for me. Oh and no white carbs or not many anyway.
Not to start a argument, but I can never see how that is possible (even though evidently it is). From my own point of view even hovering around 1500 makes me feel like crap, lethargic and devoid of any energy. I am prepared to admit everyone is different....but it just seems so harsh.
have been counting calories and eating no more than 1000 per day
How heavy are you to start with ? Do you feel OK on 1000 calories a day ? Are you doing much riding/exercise too ?
Bazzer
I've dropped almost 7kg's in 3 weeks, mostly by seriously boosting my previously lax exercise 'regime' (have gone from going to the gym maybe twice a week max to now going at least every day and most often twice a day, around 1-1.5hrs at a time with an emphasise on all activity been within the 'Fat Burning Zone' using a HR monitor).
Have also been sticking to a fairly controlled diet with a real eye on keeping calories in below 2k a day plus no big meal at night... been eating lot's of raw fresh veg & fruit, smoked salmon, chicken breast, egg white omelettes, all in moderate servings with the main meal being lunch. No real plan as such, just exercise a lot more and eat less, getting used to feeling a little hungry and stopping eating when I feel full, all seems to be working well for me.
eat less move more is the only answer
Oh good, it's this thread again...
eat less move more is the only answer
Or get the delhi belly like I had last week.....
I've lost nearly 2 stone in 6-8 months just by calorie counting. been eating an average of about 2000 per day, a bit more on excersise days. It has been fairly easy so far, the hard bit is resisting the temptation to eat anything I want!
It's expensive though, i've had to buy all new clothes!!! 🙂
1000 cals a day is a starvation diet, and would be harmful in the long run. 500 cals less food, 500 cals more exercise per day = 2lbs loss per week and is sustainable.
Hay rupert well done on any weight loss achived, ive been following my own form of atkins/lowcarb diet since may now and lost 4.5stone. Having got there am finding it very hard to find good wholesome carbs etc to replace them with but whole oats brown rice, zero white anything and look up low GL stuff like sweet potatoes instead off normal ones etc they release there carbs slower and you don't get a spike in blood suger etc. Also worth thinking about making sure you eat protein with every meal this will fill you up for longer due to slower digestion. Protein smoothies are good nut butters or nuts for snacks (low/no salt). My own smoothie recipy is.
2/3x tablespoon(30grams) of oats soaked in boiling water for about 10/15 mins.
milks normal, soya and almound milk on there own or paired(your cup beaker full)
1x skoop of whey protein flavour of choice.
1x heaped teaspoon nut butters normal almound hazlenut etc.
100 plus grams blueberrys/strawberry or what ever (good antioxidents)
quarter lemon squeesed in.
And blend till smooth. Im using a magic bullet with it's own cups perfect start to the day, only takes about 5mins after oats are soaked and keeps me going most of the morning and at least a 3 hour ride (moderate pace). Also if you put in half a lemon squeesed in, it will help keep the berrys fresh for around an hour or so, so you could commute to work whick i do.
Also i know a great lower GL flapjack recipy if anyone is interested?
Anyway good luck with it all mate.
Bats.
Unless you have loads to lose 2lb per week is too much. Losing fat is a slow process and trying to do so quickly only results in a loss of muscle mass and a slower metabolism. You should not be going hungry, the slower you make your metabolism (by starving)the less efficient your body becomes at burning fat.
There is no quick fix, aim for a pound a week max.
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you'll s**t out a big portion of your fat intake before it's even absorbed into your moobs 🙂
it's a win/win 😆
Some good tips there; Batman thanks for the recipe.
Unfortuntly for some its not as simple as less in + more out.
That makes it sound like I'm some BigMac monster, I'm not; but its certainly not easy getting back into shape after a few years of hard working, eating and drinking!
Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants. ( http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/28/magazine/28nutritionism.t.html?_r=1)
- Food = real food. Something your great grandmother would have recognised (or her French/Italian/whatever counterpart).
- If it has more than five ingredients when you buy it, it's not food.
I switched from drinking the big bottles of Leffe (750cl) to the little ones (330cl). This didn't reduce the quantity of beer drunk but did mean I walked to the fridge more often.
1000 calories a day? Talk about 'Manorexic'. 😆
I've mostly used the cigarette coffee/meal replacment diet ; ]- works a treat - and 4 months on the wagon helped ;^O
Adam, it took a change of jobs for me to nail the Marlboro and Costa's on the head. Can't afford to go back now!
Unfortuntly for some its not as simple as less in + more out.
That formula [b]always[/b] works. If you eat 1800 calories and burn off 2000 calories, your body has to use 200 calories from its reserves (which are generally stored in the arse, belly or moobs).
Picolax with every meal.
That formula always works. If you eat 1800 calories and burn off 2000 calories
On today's consumption and exercise calculation, I'm currently -153 kcal.
Mike I can do the math, I know it works. For some its a piece of cake (no punn intended) and for others its particulary difficult.
TBF what I've found is that dropping body weight is (quite) easy, and with dedication really is just a question of maths. That however, does not make one lean; dropping BF (I dont mind dropping some muscle, as I have a bit spare too)has been nigh on impossible; and now I'm very slowly getting back into training after (still treating) injury I want to try and change the diet fat burning gear somewhat.
Has anyone on here tried the Orlistat (Alli) diet pills?
I'd be intrigued to know if they work. They seem quite expensive, but if thay actually work, I would have expected to hear much more about them.
I'd be intrigued to know if they work
They work by passing out up to 30% of the fat you eat, if you don't eat the fat in the first place nothing will happen
They don't make you lose weight
How do you calorie counters actually manage counting the calories? Do you just keep a running total in your head or do you do something more structured?
A rather unpleasant side effect of Alii pills seems to be the unwanted leakage of greasy brown poop. First time users are advised to try at home, and wear dark clothes to work, taking along spare underwear.
If that's not an incentive to avoid lard, I don't know what is..!
[b]Rupert/b] - agreed that losing the final flab is hard, especially as it will be "hard" adult fat. Consider it as a long term goal - (1) eat less (2) exercise (you're starting to do this again) (3) keep both of these up.
FWIW i don't subscribe to the fat burning zones for exercise. I don't measure my riding by mileage as such. Rather, I look at it as number of hours of exercise per week and the intensity of that exercise.
How do you calorie counters actually manage counting the calories? Do you just keep a running total in your head or do you do something more structured?
Doing a 5 day trial at nutracheck.co.uk, which is free. I'll probably subscribe for three months (I need to shed 1.5 stones) at a cost of £5 pm. Then I'll cancel it and use all the info I've gleaned to remind myself to be sensible and keep my hand out of the cookie jar.
I really do a 1000 per day although it was around 1500 on Sunday as we had people over for dinner. It is harsh but I have lots to lose another 2 stone at least. I fully expect to slow down to about a stone every six weeks but my taget is to do it by Christmas.
It largely depends on what you eat obviously. I eat nowt but fruit during the day and snack on rasins or dried fruit, tea with sugar but no milk which is how I like it anyway and that keeps off any hunger pangs. I feel good to be honest. Sleeping much better, digestion is 100 times better and noticed a general boost in my mood too. I exercise everyday at lunch and do around 30 mins of hard CV work and then around 20 mins of mixed free weights and machines + what ever rides I do normally around 5-8 hours a week.
I'm carrying around what, 80,000 spare colories? I'm not going to starve!!
Calorie counting is easy it's all written down on the packets or on google.
The real bastard was giving up smoking at the same time. Champix rules.
There are online facilities such as on the Livestrong website, whenever I have done it I just use a notebook.
Have not really found it work that well for me. I'd rather use or follow a laid-out meal plan.
But we are all different, what works for one may not the other.
Mike I can do the math, I know it works. For some its a piece of cake (no punn intended) and for others its particulary difficult.
I fully accept that some people find it harder to lose weight than others, and some people are more prone to putting on weight.
But it is always a matter of calories in vs calories out. If someone's still putting on non-lean weight when they're burning more calories than they're eating, they're either under counting the calories that they're eating or over counting the calories that they expend. (Or they're retaining water or something.)
Ye canna change the laws of physics.
That makes it sound like I'm some BigMac monster, I'm not; [b]but its certainly not easy[/b] getting back into shape after a few years of hard working, eating and drinking!
Never is mate. Just got to knuckle down otherwise you will constantly fall at the first hurdle.
Just eaten a cereal bar.
Still minus 31 kcal for the day so far. Think the commute home's gonna be sloooow.
I've had no chocolate, cake or chips at work all week (the perils of working in a sixth form college). No alcohol (at home) either apart from a small glass of red wine the other night.
I am now ripped and seriously worried about my trousers falling down 😉
And hungry.
Clenbeutarol is where its at!!!
strip body fat while improving anaerobic performance!!
RESULT!
Jools that sounds servere, but if its working for you well done on dropping the weight; I might give it a try for the last bit!
My only concern with that type of dieting (I know its done to get to a goal and then you will stabalise) is the nutritional factor, in doing that are you starving your body of vital nutrients?
Rupert, any diet that restricts what you eat is a *bit* unhealthy but you should only be doing it for a short time.
Try being vegetarian, as long as you don't cane the cheese (the cheese does not enjoy this) then it's a pretty good diet. Wholegrains, veg, beans, pulses, tofu and the odd bit or fake meat for a treat and you'll be both leaner and greener (but obviously not meaner).
It needs a bit of background reading to get right but can rid people of unnecessary bulk.
don't cane the cheese
Well....there is my sentence of the week.
Nah I'm eating plenty of protein, lots of fruit and stuff like brown rice never been that big on salads so I do a lot of veggie soups too.
Tonight it's steak and a bake so i'm treating myself to a little carb..
You'll find after a week or two big or rich meals make you feel ill or they do me anyway.
Seriously I've got enough fat that I'm sorted for fuel and the whole starvation mode thing doesn't seem to matter.
1000 calories is actually quite a bit depending on what you go for
4 packs of crisps = 1000 calories
Big fillet of Salmon, decent portion of brown rice, untold clementines and rasins = 1000 calories maybe a bit less.
and the whole starvation mode thing doesn't seem to matter.
What about when you start eating normally again? Will your body not store store everything as fat due to being in starvation mode?
Personally I reckon most people underestimate when counting calories anyways, so doubt you're really on 1000 a day.
No because I'm also doing shitloads of exercise which I plan to keep up.
Eat less for a long time and do more = Lose weight
Eat normal and carry on doing more = Stay slim
Eat normal and do sod all = get fat.
Starvation mode really means exactly that eating bog roll for a month etc. 1000 calories is fine.
looksee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starvation_mode
Has anybody added L-Carnatine to their diet / daily supplements?
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did somebody say 'miracle cure' 😆
Green and Blacks organic chocolate is half price at Co-Op right now meaning you can eat twice as much for the same calorific value, which is fantastic news. My six-pack is coming along great by the way, by segregating crucial food groups I'm actually eating more and losing fat. I am putting on some weight, but it's mostly pure muscle from my extensive training routine. Well done everyone.
The iDave diet should help you lose some of the fat. I have been on a fairly similar diet for over a year and lost a lot of fat. I feel that by home cooking I can control what I'm eating better e.g. I'll quite happily eat homemade bread because I know that the ingredients include olive oil and honey. What sh1te do they put in shop bought bread? Tomorrow- homemade pizza. 😀
Key areas... No alcohol and change the rice and pasta you're currently eating for beans/lentils etc.
Going vegetarian could be interesting, but I don't think I can do without my meat. 🙁
My weight is remaining stable while losing fat.
Don, sounds like its working for you but what the hell is the iDave diet?!
Post up an email address and I'll send you it.
I usually diet around this time of year upto about mid January, when I need to increase my intake to support the training load.
I'm 177cm tall and at last weigh in was 71.5Kg and about 14% body fat. My aim is to get down to about 5-8% body fat before January.
I'm limiting myself to about 1500-1700 calories per day, very low fat, not too many carbs and a moderate ammount of protein. Oats, whole wheat foods, fresh fruit and veg, min 2L water per day and a few treats along the way. I usually have around 500 calories for breakfast, 5-600 during the day and 5-600 in the evening.
I train about 6-8hrs per week at the minute which is mainly low intensity work with a few 60min tempo sessions which will help towards building base using my limited time available and hopefully maintain a decent ammount of muscle as the body fat gets harder to shift. I try to weigh myself and calculate my body fat at the same time every week and only once per week.
Have had good steady results over the last 3 weeks, so far so good.
Sure, bosh it through to burman_day@yahoo.co.uk
Thanks