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I think I have it sussed with a new niche.ย  superlongandheavypackingย  ๐Ÿ˜‰ย  allways room for a new niche

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Two week camping tour of the highlands.ย  It could be sunny and hot, it will rain at some point, it could be a "frost in sheltered glens".ย  For two weeks for us old gits comfy is nice.ย  It actually rides and handles surprisingly well which is just as well as the route is 50/50 road and offroad and 250+ miles with 30 000ft of climb.ย  Thank goodness for low gears!ย  Last time we did this we put it on a weighbridge at Oban - with the pair of us ( built for comfort not speed) we were well over 200kg


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 11:21 am
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What would Mike do?

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Enjoy your trip.


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 11:24 am
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Where is his coffee pot?ย  His chairs?


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 11:28 am
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30 000ft of climb

= 30 000ft of downhill. Don't touch the rotors, they'll be hot !!

Have a good trip.


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 11:32 am
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Enjoy.

You should have done one of those photos with all the kit laid out and you lying next to it


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 11:41 am
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Its actually just stuffed with cushions right now - just checking all the luggage fits on OK and nothing fouls.ย  Not heading off until next week.ย  I'll do one of those pictures tho


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 11:45 am
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You should have done one of those photos with all the kit laid out and you lying <span style="text-decoration: underline;">behind</span> to it


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 11:46 am
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That's excellent 🙂.

What's the spec on the tandem, looks just the job.


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 12:32 pm
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Cannondale mt 800 frame - must be pushing 20 years old.ย  rohloff hub on 37/16 gearing so nice and low.ย  Hope 6 pots 200 front 180 rear.ย  'zocchi z1lite fork modified by me ( increased mechanical preload, thicker oil, higher oil levels)ย  thudbuster on the rear seat 48 spoke front wheel on a hope big un

Maxxis larson tyres - dual ply rear


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 12:36 pm
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On a slight tangent (but not really, cos it could potentially end up with me bikepacking on a tandem!) what are your feelings re. one person being a much stronger cyclist than the other? Does it work? Is it better & can you cover more ground easier than just going at the pace of the slower person?


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 12:42 pm
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You go at the average speed of the two of you - I probably put in 55- 60% of the effort ( apart from on hills where a tandem is slower for reasons no one can explain. ) But Mrs TJ jas better endurance
We also had a clash of styles ie on solos I like to pedal downhill, Mrs TJ freewheels down so you tend to average that out as well.ย  It also means you can chat as you go along and the person on the back does not need to watch the road on easy stuff so can get a good look at the scenery.

We love it but its not for everyone.ย  Live anywhere near Edinburgh you can borrow it for a shot if you want


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 12:57 pm
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blimey. panniers on the trailer, for extra comfort!

have fun mr & mrs tj..


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 1:03 pm
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Live anywhere near Edinburgh you can borrow it for a shot if you want
Very kind offer, sadly I'm in the SE so a long way away!

Do you ever swap around or is the same person always front/back?


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 1:13 pm
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@zilog - tandem touring is great, so much more pleasant than waiting/worrying about/trying to keep pace on solos but load carrying can be tricky. Managed to persuade my better half that we'd b&b it rather than camp for our first proper tour, which proved the right decision - but I've just rebuilt ours with off-road capability in mind & looking forward to a few bike packing weekend trips when the time permits. Not sure how we will manage the loading, we bust 4 spokes out of a 48 spoke rear wheel on road with panniers, so a trailer like TJ's may be on the cards ☺️

Edit - Mrs Db always on the back with us


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 1:14 pm
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usually me on the front - standover is a bit high for Mrs TJ and she finds it difficult to balance with me on the back also different seats at different angles so we really need to swap seats.ย  shame really as sitting on the back watching the scenery is nice


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 1:16 pm
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The handling especially offroad is much better with the trailer and wind resistance is much lower.ย  Its not a huge amount more space than 4 panniers and a rack bag.ย  Its an utter pain to park and and manouvere in urban environments tho so we do use panniers when we are going to be in towns a lot like on this Netherlands tour

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I wonder how many drivers thought they could just nip by, and found out they were trying to overtake a supertanker.

What's the turning circle like? Presumably you actively avoid any zigzag trails on the map.


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 1:52 pm
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We can do foot up U turns in a about a 5 - 6 m space.ย  The trailer does not affect it compared to unloaded. If its really tight Mrs TJ pedals it slowly while I paddle aroundย  Zig zags are usually OK ( we have done the steep zig zags onthe spooky wood climb unladen)ย  If its too tight to make a u turn tho its an utter pain - 3 pt turns are almost impossible for me


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 2:00 pm
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Did you pack a hairbrush or is the ponytail intended to reduce maintenance?


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 9:38 pm
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From the early days of Glentress there was a pic of someone - Edinburgh - Ian someone? - on the berm descent off the black radio mast.. looked a blast.

For the trailer, you really need a flag to top it all off. No, not the EBC / yellow one, I'll see if I can provide a link to ones we got done for NL last month...


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 9:43 pm