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Where are we getting OKO from?
eBay. £8.99 delivered from a few places - even cheaper than mould making latex (I've bought a litre of that as well).
So. Glitter as an additive. Any recommendations?
Fine, superfine, chunky? seem to be different sorts on eBay.
I make my own for £3 per litre I add in extra grit shall we call it than stans. I could probably get ii down if I purchased the raw ingredients in bulk. As for performance it works well, I'm testing its longevity with slightly increasing the ammonia content but the standard mix will last a good 4 months in summer conditions and as it's cheap I can regularly top it up...
OKO from Mole Country Stores/Farmway.
I got mine at Farmway in Hexham.
re I add in extra grit shall we call it than stans. I could probably get ii down if I purchased the raw ingredients in bulk. As for performance it works well, I'm testing its longevity with slightly increasing the ammonia content but the standard m
so what are the ingredients/recipe?
so what are the ingredients/recipe?
That is commercially sensitive information 8).
I bought a litre of liquid latex and diluted it down 4:1:1 with water + screenwash. It's a little too runny at that concentration and took a while to seal a puncture I had a couple of weeks back.
When I'm done with that litre I'll but some of the OKO stuff or this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Puncture-Free-Off-Road-Tyre-Sealant-For-Ride-On-Mowers-1-Litre-1000-ML/141447420159
surely water based dilution means it wont seal/dry in the wet?
I find thatwith stans/caffelatex tyres weep more after a wet weekend riding. (spec control sidewalls)
How often does the oko stuff need topping up? The oko site says it lasts the lifetime of the tyre.
Is it this one?
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/OKO-TYRE-SEALANT-ANTI-PUNCTURE-OFF-ROAD-1250ML-STOP-PUNCTURES-/182124416574
I looked into OKO a bit more.
Nutrak is indeed some form of OKO but they seem to have a range of products I've never seen in the UK -
http://www.oko.com/markets/bicycles/
"Puncture Free" (not latex based, blue, viscous)
"Extreme" (a dead link) and
"Magic Milk" (synthetic latex based, light, free flowing)
Would be interesting to get a proper comparison. Some of the 'extreme mining' types claim to seal up to 10mm holes so i'm guessing some very large particles.
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Original: perfect for commuters as well as everyday cyclists.
X-Treme: more robust for heavy duty bikes and better suited to mountain biking.
Magic Milk: for those looking to run a tubeless set-up and is ideal for racing.
Nothing really explains the advantages/disadvantages of each.
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patriotpro - Hi, slight hijack (but kind of related)...
The syringes are expensive at a tenner, is there a cheaper alternative/seller?eBay syringes and pick a size, I use 20ml ones as they fit inside a valve core
It's to load thru' the valve core, cheers
I've ordered some oko sealant and smells the same and has the same consistency as the decathlon stuff, which is crap. It coats the inside of the tyre brilliantly but leaves nothing for punctures, I suspect it's more for fixing a holed tyre after the event, I'll try it watered down though. I have a worn out tyre I can do some puncture tests on when I get bored.
Not a waste as the wheel barrow has a flat.
surely water based dilution means it wont seal/dry in the wet?
No. Latex doesn't 'dry out' like water based paint. Ever wonder why, if latex starts off as a water based fluid, that rubber things don't dissolve in water?
Latex is a suspension of long protein molecules in water. If you remove the water, the protein is left behind. But also, if you rub it or put shear force it through a small gap the protein molecules get tangled up like felt, and it becomes a solid. They cannot be untangled. That's why it sloshes around in tyres happily for ages but when it's forced through a small gap it turns into a solid plug.
Conti definitely has no particles of any kind in it.
Did you not shake the bottle?! They are probably all stuck at the bottom. You have to shake the hell out of the bottle, and turn the bottle upside down to check that the bottom doesn't have everything stuck to it before using it for the first time.
We use the Conti stuff at work because it's a lot cheaper than Stans and it works fine (if you shake the bottle).
Conti definitely has no particles of any kind in it.>>>
Did you not shake the bottle?! They are probably all stuck at the bottom.
Yes, you do get some settling - there is *something* that goes back into suspension when you shake it but I'm pretty sure even model making latex needs shaking?. Stans has some much larger visible particles that fall out of suspension really quickly.
oko sealant and smells the same and has the same consistency as the decathlon stuff, which is crap
OKO seem big - i'm sure it's rebranded as other stuff.
Latex based sealants seem to be expensive - dq-services.co.uk sell the OKO 'extreme' mtb sealant at £15 a litre. The 'off road' tractor tyre stuff is £5 a litre (I really wonder the difference beteween those two) but OKO branded latex based Magic Milk is still £28 a litre.
Normal Stans here, seems to work well enough and means I can keep adding to my interesting collection of Stanimals on the garage windowsill.