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[Closed] "Seal Swell" in suspension fluids, silkolene?

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Hi everyone,

Ordered some Silkolene motorcycle fork fluid 5wt & 15wt for my Rockshox forks but whilst searching came across a few people mentioning some motorcycle fork oils contain seal swell which increases friction!

Does anyone know if Silkolene contains this?

Hugh


 
Posted : 25/04/2011 5:24 pm
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It's a load of codswallop.

Motorcycle suspension fluid is all I've ever used. IIRC my last lot was Silkolene. It's all fine.


 
Posted : 25/04/2011 5:58 pm
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Although I'd always say make sure it doesn't have anything like that on the bottle, I don't think I've actually seen any since the 70s

PJ1 or Yamalube for all my bikes motor or otherwise


 
Posted : 25/04/2011 6:08 pm
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Have a friend who was using motorbike fork oil in his Revelations, he spent ages stripping them and changing seals etc before realising the stiction and stiffness was caused by the oil. Don't know what brand it was.


 
Posted : 25/04/2011 6:34 pm
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I replaced the oil bath in my revs with float fluid it was too thick and the forks turned rigid

Replaced with the correct fork oil ( motorcycle) job done back to bouncyness


 
Posted : 25/04/2011 6:38 pm
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I hve never had an issue using motorcycle lube. I have #recently got some silicone spray and that has reduced friction tho so I am a convert to that.


 
Posted : 25/04/2011 6:39 pm
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I've used Silkolene before with no problems.
Ian


 
Posted : 25/04/2011 6:59 pm
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Currently using Rock Oil SVI stuff in my Rebas. No problems.

In fact, I stripped them down not long after I bought them, and they performed better with the new oil.

Isn't 'bicycle suspension fluid' just motorbike stuff in a more expensive bottle?


 
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I hve never had an issue using motorcycle lube. I have #recently got some silicone spray and that has reduced friction tho so I am a convert to that.

This shouldn't be the case though. I've got several pairs of RS forks of various ages, none have any noticeable stiction. Spraying silicone lube or the super expensive [url= http://www.finishlineusa.com/products/stanchion-lube.htm ]stanchion lube from Finish Line[/url] make absolutely no difference on my forks.

I'd be checking that the seals or foams aren't worn or damaged.

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It's a load of codswallop.

So you're saying that all (or at least the majority of) motorcycle susp oil does not contain seal swelling stuff anymore?
I've used Silkolene Pro RSF before and it seemed very good indeed.


 
Posted : 25/04/2011 7:43 pm
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Thanks chaps.

I always used motorex before which worked great but got a good price on some silkolene so thought i'd try that!


 
Posted : 25/04/2011 7:46 pm
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I used Silkolene in a set of bombers, and it did cause stiction.

Stripped everything and went over to Rock oil, and it was fine.

The issue is also mentioned in Peter Verdone's articles on suspension oil - specifically with Marzocchis.

On the other hand I've read that Fox oil is rebranded Silkolene.

I'd be tempted to try it if you already have the oil - I didn't have to swap seals to sort the forks, just the oil.


 
Posted : 25/04/2011 7:52 pm
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Retro - I was suprised. You always get some stiction with forks and the silicone reduced it. Reasonably new forks somaybe tight seals, serviced by me and in perfect condition


 
Posted : 25/04/2011 8:09 pm
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So you're saying that all (or at least the majority of) motorcycle susp oil does not contain seal swelling stuff anymore?
I've used Silkolene Pro RSF before and it seemed very good indeed.

I have no idea weather it does or not. All I know is that it works perfectly in the dozen or so forks I've filled with the stuff.

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Posted : 25/04/2011 8:20 pm
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I've been using Halfords own brand motorcycle oil and it's been fine for me!


 
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Retro - I was suprised. You always get some stiction with forks and the silicone reduced it. Reasonably new forks somaybe tight seals, serviced by me and in perfect condition

Ah fair enough, I meant ones what were fully worn in. As you say, on new forks it can make a massive difference.

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I have no idea weather it does or not. All I know is that it works perfectly in the dozen or so forks I've filled with the stuff.

Gotcha.
I've had bad luck using motorcycle oil in open bath RST forks a few years ago (immediately got massive stiction and became useless). As I say though since then I have used Silkolene RSF with good results. Massively cheaper too.


 
Posted : 25/04/2011 8:23 pm
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What the equivalent to Fox Suspension Fluid 7wt in Silkolene RSF then?
Cheap place to buy would be handy too!


 
Posted : 25/04/2011 8:35 pm
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What the equivalent to Fox Suspension Fluid 7wt in Silkolene RSF then?
Cheap place to buy would be handy too!

You can't just compare the wt unfortunately. Fox standard oil viscosity appears to be 9.57. Silkolene RSF 5wt = 9.5 so pretty much bang on.
This site has a list of viscocities:


 
Posted : 25/04/2011 8:50 pm