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Yeah but. They weren't actually talking to him were they? If he was moaning that he went to the pub & all his mates could talk about was Strava then fine. But it wasn't his conversation. The point is that he should not be getting bored by people who are nothing to do with him. I am sitting in a cafe just now, a lot of people are having conversations, some of which I suspect I might find rather dull. So what? It is nothing to do with me. Why is it worthy of me commenting on a forum about it?
spot the ironing in the situation
Thanks cumberlanddan, I realise you were offering support but that typo really made me laugh.
@ Cumberlanddan
But he chose to air his dissatisfaction on a public forum, what are we supposed to do agree with him?
If he didn't want opinions that differed from his own he should either stay at home all the time, buy earplugs, speak his mind and tell others to STFU or be more tolerant of others. None of the above should warrant a topic on a cycling forum, you would expect some bloke on a motoring forum to gob off about cyclists being boring and although we aren't all the same and contrary to popular belief not all cyclists are on STRAVA why didn't the OP either move away so didn't have to listen or tell them. Why wait till you get home lock the door behind you and fire up the computay?
And Ironing? Seriously........
imnotverygood - MemberWhy is it worthy of me commenting on a forum about it?
To which, the only sane response is "Why is it worthy of me commenting on a forum about someone else commenting on a forum about it?"
Sometimes people overhear things they like and they sometimes overhear things they don't like. Some people find some things interesting and some things some people find uninteresting. Some things people find so interesting that they deem them worthy of comment and perhaps some other people might also find it interesting and perhaps comment. Some things are even worthy of comment by their lack of interestingness. Some comments are complete drivel. You are free to choose your stance, but choose wisely.
I am a strava bore and proud. I even log my commutes and turbo sessions in the kitchen. I have annual targets and also use it for training plans and targeting events.
I find it motivating and useful to regularly look back at previous years performances etc.. It has also meant I've meet some local riders who I wouldn't have without it.
There are some very fast boys not on there. Each to their own I say. It is just something else to add to the mix.
And yes when I get the chance I do race too....
But it is the phrase 'save me from....' that I suspect is setting this off. He doesn't need saving. They weren't talking to him.
Maybe he just needs Saving from himself, poor bastard,
"Choose wisely" or Cumberladdan will think you're boring ๐
Reckon I can live with it.
Yeah but. They weren't actually talking to him were they? If he was moaning that he went to the pub all his mates could talk about was Strava then fine. But it wasn't his conversation. The point is that he should not be getting bored by people who are nothing to do with him. I am sitting in a cafe just now, a lot of people are having conversations, some of which I suspect I might find rather dull. So what? It is nothing to do with me. Why is it worthy of me commenting on a forum about it?
Ok. There's two issues here.
One is about 'eavesdropping' and the other is about Strava bores.
I can see why some people may find listening in on other peoples conversations objectionable, I just don't necessarily think it's a massive issue in this instance. However, I'll take criticism for that on the chin and review my moral compass in that respect (read: whatever!).
Had I posted a generic comment about Strava bores obsessing over every last detail of their stats and seemingly missing out on the wider pleasures of cycling, especially when they drone on and on about it. I suspect it might have generated a different set of responses.
Then, maybe not. ๐
Klunk - Member
I ride because I like riding bikes even on shit trails with shit views, I don't know how fast I am and I don't care.
This is the only reason I ride - each to their own I spose. A bit like any hobby there are those that just enjoy it and there are those that get all anal about stuff!!!
What is Strava anyway - no idea don't care
Duggan, I'll meet you in the Cortyard Cafe same time as last week, let's see who can send over the edge next week ๐
Bring an ebike if we can't bore some one in the cafe we will piss them off on the trails.
But it is the phrase 'save me from....' that I suspect is setting this off.
So within 3 words the STW massive have formed an opinion.
DT78 - Membersummary - likes strava
Nothing wrong in any of that DT78, the point in question is whether or not the instant you finish a ride you whip out the 'strava enabled device of choice', check your stats and talk only about those stats for the next half hour. If so, congratulations, you can consider yourself a Strava bore. If on the other hand you check your stats, pat yourself on the back and proceed to consider and discuss a less trivial aspect of riding/life then you are unfortunately just normal.
Speaking of eavesdropping on offensive conversations, I was in decathlon the other day (great start, I know) and there was a guy in full Lycra, helmet, clippy road shoes, pushing his fairly expensive looking road bike around the shop looking at bits of kit. I overheard him later asking the guy at the workshop "fix his flat tyre."
Now that really offended me.
Nothing wrong in any of that DT78, the point in question is whether or not the instant you finish a ride you whip out the 'strava enabled device of choice', check your stats and talk only about those stats for the next half hour. If so, congratulations, you can consider yourself a Strava bore. If on the other hand you check your stats, pat yourself on the back and proceed to consider and discuss a less trivial aspect of riding/life then you are unfortunately just normal.
This.
Imnotverygood has summed it up nicely I think, it's how it was posted, the Only person in that scenario that could have "saved him" was himself. Had the title been worded slightly different I think my reaction would have been slightly different.
I would be glad if people in my local cafes were just talking about Strava timings. I fear the conversations would be a lot more like listening to a Daily Mail column but then I don't go to those cafe's. Maybe I should so I can post about how awful it was.....
seemingly missing out on the wider pleasures of cycling,
Why should you think that?
I've been cycling for forty years, toured, go to the shops, go to the pub, go for a bimble, MTB in centres and routes at home and abroad, belong to a couple of clubs, road ride in groups on my own and TT, Virtual ride on Zwift.
Just about every way you can use a bike including obsessing about stats on Strava, Training peaks etc.
None of these are exclusive.
Had the title been worded slightly different I think my reaction would have been slightly different.
Seriously? ๐ฏ
Your whole moral standpoint on 'eavesdropping' etc etc blah blah is based on the words 'Save me'???
Bit of a kneejerk reaction don't ya think?
You overheard someone and then posted it on a forum. You bastard!
He absolutely had it coming.
He absolutely had it coming.
Good job you didn't start you post with,
"Save me from mechanically inept road cyclists"
Yes a bit like your reaction to hearing something that you don't like the sound of, I might start a seperate thread with the words "Save me from".
But in reality, I don't need saving I just need to be aware of others around me and try to tolerate them, maybe speak to them and engage in their conversation politely, maybe ask them how they are finding their bike? How many miles are you doing, don't eat the soup it's got a fly in it that sort of shit,
If you cannot see that blaming others for your own failings isn't their fault then there's no point even trying to debate why you think it's acceptable to even try and understand where you have gone slightly wrong.
Good luck.
Why should you think that?
Because part of the conversation (yes I listened in, get over it) was about future rides and their focus on other people joining them simply because their Strava segment times were getting too close to each other, and 'we can't have that!'
Good job you didn't start you post with,"Save me from mechanically inept road cyclists"
When I pointed the guy out to my girlfriend and told her what he'd said, she said "stop being such a bloody snob."
"How can I be a snob when he's got a more expensive bike than me and he doesn't even know how to fix a puncture?" I replied.
She walked off without saying anything else. I assume that was because my point was irrefutable.
Maybe they had a sense of humour...
Good luck.
Thank you.
I think you need to give up on this one now, admit you were hasty in posting and thank everyone for correctling you so comprehensively.
I think you need to give up on this one now, admit you were hasty in posting and thank everyone for correctling you so comprehensively.
Guffaw!
If you like.
xyeti - Memberblah blah blah... there's no point even trying to debate why you think it's acceptable to even try and understand where you have gone slightly wrong.
Good luck.
Hows the view from that there high horse?
I really don't understand why you seem to be so animated about some other people's conversations.
I don't think Poisonspider actually wants to be saved. I believe its called rhetoric. Do you think that I think you are actually sat on a horse?
Are you hanging out the back of poison spider whilst your actually typing this shit?
As it happens, no. Are you? What a strange question.
You imply that these strava bores weren't tolerated. The fact he didn't go up to them and try to make them talk about something else, as you said you would have done, shows that he did tolerate them.
Basically, I'm not sure its me typing shit, if you catch my drift.
Can't be, all the people in the poison spider seemed tolerant
Are you hanging out the back of poison spider whilst your actually typing this shit?
Excuse me!!!
As a gay man I find that comment inexcusably homophobic!!
Perhaps I should start a thread titled 'Save me from the STW discriminators!'
How you can possibly position yourself on the moral high ground when you come out with abuse like that is beyond me.
Are we saying MTBing and STW is for straight guys only now!!
Oh, now you go quiet, bigots.
To be fair, I don't think anyone is suggesting anything of the sort. Xyeti simply showed himself up as a bit of a tit but I doubt he really meant anything by it, except to somehow offend me.
Meh.
I doubt he really meant anything by it
It's just homophobia by the back door!
An insult here, a stereotype there, it's this kind of accepted nonsense that marginalises potentially vulnerable sectors of society!
It's just homophobia by the back door!
Pun intended? I do hope so.
qtip - I shall suppress a smirk.
poisonspider - I don't necessarily disagree but your reaction above could be construed as a bit melodramatic...
Nothing wrong in any of that DT78, the point in question is whether or not the instant you finish a ride you whip out the 'strava enabled device of choice', check your stats and talk only about those stats for the next half hour. If so, congratulations, you can consider yourself a Strava bore. If on the other hand you check your stats, pat yourself on the back and proceed to consider and discuss a less trivial aspect of riding/life then you are unfortunately just normal.
If I happened to have a group of mates who all liked comparing Strava stats at the end of the ride, that wouldn't make me (or any of them) a Strava bore, just a group of people going on about something that doesn't really matter that makes us happy.
If I went home and told my wife/other people who don't give a shit all about my Strava "achievements" and dissections of my stats, it would be me being a bore. Geeky club, yes, but they were only bores to the OP (who wasn't part of their conversation anyway). Nothing really wrong with OP for listening in to another conversation, but the OP essentially asks "Why is everyone else totally boring and not exactly like me?", I suspect the answer is "Because if everyone was the same, that would truly be boring."
Reminds me of a lunch I shared with my wife. It was at my place of work and I was on my lunch break, this restaurant is open to the public, and I was wearing my work clothing.
We were not really getting on at the time and I was being pretty silent and just staring out of the window, I guess she was being a bit snotty, but I reckon I wasn't the best company.
An older couple about 3 chairs down must have listened to it all, and when they got up to leave the woman had a go at my missus and said I would leave you as well you miserable bitch and that we had ruined her happy lunch!!
I was so shocked I couldn't get up quick enough, but knowing everything is on CCTV I thought better of it.
Some people just can't leave well alone.
I don't do strava, some people obviously do, I do enjoy scenery/ seeing wild animals, sometimes I am lucky to have kept my eyes on the trail!
Its a bit rude to listen to other peoples conversations unless being really loud, in which case you may need to get up and find somewhere else to sit?
Is this the right e-room for an argument?
(competeing interests: I use strava and my wife bought me a rather fectching Rapha jacket for Christmas a few years ago. Oh, and i enjoy going to cafe's and occasionally I overhear some interesting stuff in the queues or on the next table but mainly people have their noses stuck in their bloomin' phones... which I really, really hate!)
You find conversations about Strava boring so you thought you'd start one here.
Good one!
poisonspider - Member
Both groups were mountain bikers.
It's all about the individual segments to mountain bikers. Each segment is a specific trail usually and without Strava they'd be talking about those trails anyway, the conditions on each one, and comparing against each other. Strava adds that extra bit of interest that's all.
On the other hand Strava on the road seems far more about distance and overall time. I bet a group of roadies would be discussing at the end of the ride the overall stats, Strava or otherwise. They've been using cycle computers, Garmins etc long before mountain bikers got interested in such things (mainly thanks to Strava showing the segments, i.e. trails).
It's all just fun and interest though to me. Not a competitive thing as I'm way down the league and very average rider.