[Closed] Save me from the Strava bores!

Save me from the anti-Strava bores.

Point is, they were there minding their own business having a discussion about something which was clearly interesting to them.

And then you come along, take exception to other people minding their own business talking about something that was clearly interesting to them, and moan about it on here!

It's nothing to do with you, nor do you have any right to police their conversation topics or decide what is an isn't of interest to them.

boring to you =/= boring to them

And to prove the point that it really is topic independent and nothing to do with Strava, you'll notice I didn't have to mention the S word at all in the above comments.

Just let people find their own joy in their activities, and share it with like-minded people, and they were clearly like-minded people to be having the discussion.

Poisonspider, I hear Golf is on the increase again. Some bloke from Sheffield won something to do with a green jacket that doesn't fit him properly?

Don't pay any attention to what Alex Ferguson said, we aren't interested, just buy some golfing rackets and a battery operated wheely bag thing. They will understand.

OP...where do you ride and what do you look like. Please post a pic so I can ensure if I ever come across you I can confirm with you that the conversation you are about to eavesdrop on is permissable.

also kind of ironic that the antisocial bunch of strava nerds were in a group having a chinwag, whilst you were on your own, alone...with nowt better to do than listen in to someone elses conversation...

K-Diff = Difference between my fastest time and the current KOM
KOM = KOM, except where I am KOM as I just leave the 1st losers time there to remind me how much better I am
T-Diff = Difference between my fastest time and the current fastest of the Thursday night group
Thursday = Fastest of the Thursday night group
Fastest = My fastest time
Trail = Name of the Trail

Ordered to show the trails I am closest to KOM first. Helps me target the closest KOMS and each ride

K-Diff____KOM____T-Diff____Thursday_Fastest__Trail
00:00____01:11____00:00____01:24____01:10____Castle Climb
00:00____03:06____00:00____04:17____03:01____Chilworth Beeline
00:00____00:54____00:00____01:04____00:49____Slog to the Gate
00:02____00:31____00:00____00:48____00:33____Climby
00:05____00:26____00:05____00:26____00:31____Old School
00:08____02:01____00:00____02:09____02:09____Roots Maneuver
00:10____01:27____00:00____02:02____01:37____Chilworth Old Village
00:10____00:30____00:00____00:40____00:40____Witches Tit
00:10____00:27____00:00____00:50____00:37____Ouch
00:11____01:12____00:00____02:00____01:23____Lordshill Way
00:11____02:55____00:00____03:06____03:06____Grind
00:12____00:57____00:00____01:26____01:09____Lee Drove A3057 to Leee Ln
00:12____00:29____00:00____00:46____00:41____Slog Hill
00:13____00:48____00:00____01:06____01:01____Beachy sort of climb

I can then cross reference this against tyre pressure and weather conditions.

Let me know if you want more details as I have plenty of spare time on my hands...

^^^ post of the day 🙂

Save me from the anti-Strava bores.

+ 1

other people can be dull, get over it.

tpbiker - Member
OP...where do you ride and what do you look like. Please post a pic so I can ensure if I ever come across you I can confirm with you that the conversation you are about to eavesdrop on is permissable.

A bit passive aggressive? Do you want to know where I live? 🙄

also kind of ironic that the antisocial bunch of strava nerds were in a group having a chinwag, whilst you were on your own, alone...with nowt better to do than listen in to someone elses conversation...

And you've wounded me there, your're right I just wanted to be in their gang, I'm sooo lonely. Will you be my friend? 😥

WorldClassAccident - Member
K-Diff = Difference between my fastest time and the current KOM
KOM = KOM, except where I am KOM as I just leave the 1st losers time there to remind me how much better I am
T-Diff = Difference between my fastest time and the current fastest of the Thursday night group
Thursday = Fastest of the Thursday night group
Fastest = My fastest time
Trail = Name of the Trail

Ordered to show the trails I am closest to KOM first. Helps me target the closest KOMS and each ride

Take note those above, now that's how you post and opposing response.
Funny, clever and no moral pontificating. Thanks WCA

Anyone who's not me annoys me quite a bit, I have learned to live with it over the years.
OP should grow up.

WCA, just get Veloviewer, does all that!

OP bores me.

WCA I have lost the will to go on 🙁

@WCA,

add prevailing wind direction alignment to segement and you have the makings of a Strava plug in.

https://www.strava.com/clubs/singletrackworld-com-forumites

Cafe? Should of gone to The Woody Arms for a pint. No Strava gimps in there chief.

Make sure you have the last say poisonspider - you have a 30% ratio to keep up

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The slightly worrying thing Is I had actually knocked up that spreadsheet this afternoon after getting a couple of KOMs I don't deserve. I am riding electric assist after injury.

Cool, thing is that one of the blokes whose KOM I took this afternoon gave me kudos. I don't know who he is but changed the name of my ride to make it clear about the assist.

Strava, for me, is just to see how my fitness and bike skills are improving after being allowed back on the bike after 3 years

Did a big mtb ride in the Peak, including a push down Cavedale. Looking at strava for Cavedale the KOM is 26km/hr down it. That is faster than a fast thing! If I had that I would talk about it for weeks in the cafe.....

"minutiae" and "dullard"

got to be a wind up!!

brilliant!!

Dear Mr OP. Please carefully consider to yourself 'is this going to end well?', before posting on STW. This will save you all sorts of grief. I veto approximately 99.87 % of threads I might start on here, on this basis.

Also, your forum name is not very jolly, is it? 😐

Though of ear plugs, or better still a thermos so you can find a moment of isolation

I be they were breast feeding as well 😯

Anyone who's not me annoys me quite a bit, I have learned to live with it over the years.
OP should grow up.

Me too. I could post every 10 minutes about how somehow has annoyed me (I generally dislike people) but all that would prove is what I already know in that it is my problem to deal with and not theirs...

Strava analysis. Lol

Uphill Kom he must be half my weight, on a moped.
Downhill kom, he must have a big suspension and have balls of steel or just a complete nutter.

And remember when it's tough out their. I always think of those perfect times when it wasn't wet, muddy, cold, too hot, wind in your face, no dog walker interruptions etc etc..
Improve your own time that's the best you can do..

I've been trying for an under 10 minutes up a local climb, I'm averaging 10min 20-45 in the last few rides, my best 10.17, a damn Labrador decided to lie down across the Singletrack 100m from the end, I know that dog knew I was on strava, as it gave me that look

Please carefully consider to yourself 'is this going to end well?', before posting on STW. This will save you all sorts of grief. I veto approximately 99.87 % of threads I might start on here, on this basis.

What does 'end well' mean?

Do you mean receiving some form of approval from the STW opinion police, like I care?

It also sounds a little bit like censorship to me. Basically I should fear negative comments therefore not post?!

As did the comment about taking up golf. I say something you don't like so I'm no longer welcome as an MTBer.

Seriously, got over yourselves.

Seriously, got over yourself.

No real moral to the story other than; there is a place for Strava but it is not and should never be the reason you ride or the only thing you take away from your day on the hill.

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/local-trails-pretty-cut-up-strava-damage/page/2#post-7573117

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Everyone seems to be getting their knickers in a twist that Poisonspider has an opinion, and stated at, whilst simultaneously defending the right of some other people who had a different viewpoint stating theirs. That right? Freedom of speech but not for Poisonspider?

This, and the guardian point of view on the other thread, seem to align quite nicely with my viewpoint - I use Strava as a sort of log. Just a record of where I've been and a rough guide to 'performance'. The segment stuff is sort of interesting but I'd really not be bothered if it wasn't there.

The point seems to be that the 'Strava obsessed' of this world seem to need the numbers to have fun and don't seem to be able to enjoy the location, scenery, general challenge without it. Dullard seems to be a very apt term.

Dullard seems to be a very apt term.

I sometime wonder if people who dislike Strava are people who felt they were fast, recorded a ride, realised they were slower than a tectonic plate and got a bee in their bonnet. Not that being fast on strava actually makes you fast in many instances, I'm a case in point, fair few local KOMs, fair few top tens at trail centres, still getting smashed at the back end of sports cat when it comes to the real world.

Personally, I dont buy 'chasing strava times leads to destroyed trails,' either. If you put cheeky trails on Strava of course they will get more wear, same as the shop that advertises gets more custom than the one that doesnt, doesnt mean its the desire to be KOM that kills the trails.

I'm always curious when it comes to the oft-repeated criticism that someone "doesn't enjoy the scenery". I've seen this offence levelled at more and more people lately.

What constitutes "enjoying the scenery" exactly? I like to ride as fast as I can and consider cycling just a less boring form of going to the gym.

The scenery is a great bonus but if I'm out in it and look at it every now and again is that enough? Maybe peer whimsically into the distance for no less than five full minutes? Or should I pack an easel and oils and conjure up a landscape oil painting of Mam Tor every time I splutter to the top?

What if I hated the scenery but just like pedalling a bike? It's mostly just green fields after all. Is that allowed?

Confused.

What constitutes "enjoying the scenery" exactly? I like to ride as fast as I can and consider cycling just a less boring form of going to the gym.

Everyone seems to be getting their knickers in a twist that Poisonspider has an opinion, and stated at, whilst simultaneously defending the right of some other people who had a different viewpoint stating theirs. That right? Freedom of speech but not for Poisonspider?

I Strava because :

A) I want to record my own improvement in fitness, skill and hence speed
B) I have an electric assist bike and want to humiliate my mates by annihilating their times*
C) I want to record the miles I ride, even when not riding fast

I ride because :
1) I want to improve my fitness and get the thrill of buzzing the trail
2) I enjoy the friendships with the guys I ride with
3) I enjoy the scenery and relaxation

1 Leads to A
2 leads to B
3 leads to C

1&2 contradict each other but are both valid
2 enhances 1 & 3

Do I get any points for being both an Strava analysing bore + a Strava Analysis analysing bore?

*I know it is cheating but I don't care

WCA is bang on. Nowt wrong with Strava but its a bit sad if thats [i]the only thing[/i] you take from a ride.

Bit like this really:

Duggan - Member

...[I] consider cycling just a less boring form of going to the gym.

If that's what you want then fine, no-ones going to stop you, not even Poisonspider. Other people are allowed to form an opinion on your attitudes though. I suspect you get a lot more out of it than you realise its just that you are focussing on (in my and many others opinion) a very narrow and dull aspect of the sport as a whole.

I ride because I like riding bikes even on shit trails with shit views, I don't know how fast I am and I don't care.

More he got all offended by a conversation between random strangers that he wasn't part of enough to come online and decry that it should be a banned topic if he is listening...

To be clear, I never said it should be 'a banned topic'. I didn't even say I had a problem with them talking about Strava in general, my issue was the wittering on about the minute detail of it all and that it was boring.

My point was; and this is where I feel I should be allowed an opinion without being advised to keep it to myself for fear of it 'not going well' or being told I should take up golf; that I wished people would see there's more to this sport/pastime/activity than the performance stats you get from Strava.

If people disagree, fine, I really don't have a problem with that. If you're going to take pee or criticise , just do with style like WCA.

Nowt wrong with Strava but its a bit sad if thats the only thing you take from a ride.

I like to get some Instabangers to hashtag the shit out of as well - so everyone can see how awesome and #enduro I've been.

So not only do we have to be sympathetic to your eavesdropping prowess we have to abuse you with Style, there really is no pleasing some folk.

The reason I mentioned Golf was because you sound like my Brother in law who Incidently thinks he's invented Cycling, knows everything about cycling, talks over the top of people when they want to mention anything cycling related and wants everyone to hear him.
He's done just about every hobby known to man kind and as a result I've got a lovely Orvis Zero Gravity Fly rod, my son has his hand me down cricket stuff as well as tennis bats, he's kept hold of his Golfing shite though and I'm anticipating some biking clobber and maybe his S-Works Spesh?

WCA is bang on. Nowt wrong with Strava but its a bit sad if thats the only

thing you take from a ride.

Bit like this really:
Duggan - Member
...[I] consider cycling just a less boring form of going to the gym.

If that's what you want then fine, no-ones going to stop you, not even Poisonspider. Other people are allowed to form an opinion on your attitudes though. I suspect you get a lot more out of it than you realise its just that you are focussing on (in my and many others opinion) a very narrow and dull aspect of the sport as a whole.

Well, narrow and dull to you but not me, clearly? Yes you're allowed an opinion of course but I'm allowed to consider it unnecessarily judgemental.

It seems to me that the snobbery isn't flowing the way most people think it is. I'm more than happy for people to get whatever they want out of cycling and people who enjoy pottering around taking photos as they go, touring or audaxing (or whatever) should all spend as much as possible time doing the thing they enjoy. It seems that this attitude isn't extended the other way though- I'm seemingly resented for the fact that I just like to go out and ride as fast as I can.

In the interests of full disclosure I'm not at all fast and only really use Strava to log my miles, mainly as I have a knee injury so need to cap them.

My attitude to riding was the same before Strava came along- I just liked to burn some calories and do some exercise, heaven forbid.

I also like a nice view every now and again, who doesn't.

So not only do we have to be sympathetic to your eavesdropping prowess

Erm...not sure I said that?!

And zero points for style.

Completely misrepresenting what I've said is v.poor. 🙄

So you didn't overhear another's conversation then? Did you make it up to make yourself sound popular anticipating everyone would agree?

Zero points for honesty.

What seems to be happening here, is that some people are complaining that Poisonspider expressed a dislike for someones attitude. The same people are expressing a dislike for his attitude but seem not to spot the ironing in the situation.

No-one is suggesting that you shoudln't do as you please, but merely pointing out that there's far more to life, and a nice bike ride, than the speed at which you go down or up a hill, and that if you focus solely on that, it makes you a bit boring.

xyeti - Member
So you didn't overhear another's conversation then? Did you make it up to make yourself sound popular anticipating everyone would agree?

[i](good grief)[/i] 🙄

No, I meant I never asked for anyone to be 'sympathetic' to my 'eavesdropping prowess'.

You are making it about eavesdropping, my issue was with Strava bores.

Had you said 'So not only do we have to be sympathetic to your [u]views on Strava bores[/u]...', that would have made sense.

And 'everyone' never agrees on STW!

Well one of those attitudes is very judgemental, much like your own post. The other just a reaction to that.

cumberlanddan- you're labelling people who enjoy something you don't enjoy as "boring" and then wondering why they don't like it.