I'm far from an expert but, isn't putting the exposed part of the fork closer to the mud and slutch a Really Bad Idea? Aren't we just going to end up spending half of our lives servicing the things?
In principal I'd agree, but I know of a few pairs of those Maverick forks still going strong. I remember my main objection (when I was offered a set cheapish, I liked how they performed althoguh it's all relative) was that I'd need a new wheel build for the through axle .. with maxle etc. as standards now maybe that issue has gone away?
At least part of the theory is that crud on the stanchions will be swept off by the seals and gravity, rather than accumulating on the seals, and also the damper oil will rest on the seals, keeping them lubricated.
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On a reasonably mucky ride, how much more filth is near the hub than is near the brace/stantions on right way up forks? Same? More at the top? That's what I notice anyway.
You're right, about mud. What concerns me is that my fork lowers are covered in scrapes from crashes or squeezing down narrow gulleys, I hope the stanchion covers are tough!
and also the damper oil will rest on the seals, keeping them lubricated
it'll just be lube oil doign that work in these, damper oil will be sealed away. Plus, ever seen what happens when an open-bath USD fork blows it's seals? 🙂
What concerns me is that my fork lowers are covered in scrapes from crashes or squeezing down narrow gulleys, I hope the stanchion covers are tough!
Fork lowers are soft magnesium alloy or similar though - the mere brush of a thick bush will often scratch them. I'm not saying that these stanchions will survive crashing into a rock, but they may be hard enough that the odd rock-strike doesn't kill them.
I suppose one thing is, USD lowers are a relatively small part so replacing one shouldn't be as big a deal as replacing a CSU. Assuming they're available separately, at least. Wouldn't really concern me on an xc bike though, crashing is less important than it is with a big bike.
On a motocrosser the lowers need guards to protect them from roost from the bikes in front. I wouldn't be at all surprised if RS didn't bother.
I predict a sudden upsurge in floro gator sales. god help us, but at least you could swap them to match your socks.
Only just noticed the cable coming from the top of the left leg in the pic of the s-works.
Excellent spot! Presumably lock-out, but cable or hydro?
Surely the Rock Shox equivalent of a Kashima coating will mean there are no worries at all about the longevity of the lowers.
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If the lowers are DLC maybe no ha ha ha ha ha
Ha ha ha ha ha eh?
Is it not just going to be the normal rockshox black coating? ie, looks kind of cool, doesn't do anything? I know they do DLC on some pro-level stuff but so far not on consumer kit (which possibly means they're having the same issues as Showa always had, ie, making the bloody stuff stay on the forks)
Revolutionary!
In a sort of [I]'Marzocchi already did it 15 years ago"[/I] sort of way...
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But I do like a USD fork I does...
RAC's didn't come with stanchion guards
Weren't light either, although that was the original plan! If these are a SID replacement we'll be right away!
Video just been posted on the RS youtube channel (wagon wheel content):
Marzocchi RAC?
Ha ha ha. Old hat.
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Video just been posted on the RS youtube channel (wagon wheel content):www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsbjxE_YUZE
In reality its aimed at the recreational couple then ?
Doesn't look like it moves much!
It didn't need to.
loads of info, only 1,800 dollars ;~)
The fork is only being produced in 29? format, available with SoloAir spring, three travel options (80/100/120mm) and a tapered carbon chassis and steerer. Despite a phenomenally light weight of 1.666 grams (3.67lbs) RockShox claims the RS-1 to be stiff, precise and overall a great performer. Only about 50 grams heavier than a SID XX World Cup
http://enduro-mtb.com/en/first-ride-rockshox-rs-1-inverted-suspension-fork-2015/
So you have to use SRAM hubs this feels to me like an attempt by SRAM to get people to buy their wheels...
11 Speed need x-drive hub
RS-1 fork need SRAM front hub
The hub design has been licenced to DT Swiss too so far...
http://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/at-last-heres-the-news-about-rockshox-rs-1/
I'm out personally, heavier and more expensive than a SID World Cup, plus requires a proprietary hub.
If they'd managed lighter and stiffer maybe, but seems weird to market it as an XC race fork when it's USP is the stiffness, seems adding 20mm to the stantions and the travel and crossing into 'trail' territory would have been more prudent!
Edit: 1572g claimed for a SID WC with Maxle-Lite, so it's nearly 100g heavier, plus the hub. Don't hear many XC racers complaining about stiffness
Despite a phenomenally light weight of 1.666 grams (3.67lbs)
That's not very phenomenal! Adequately or moderately would have been better terms. Don't get me wrong it is light, but it's not [i]phenomenally [/i]light.
I think njee20 is right if it is stiff then they should have made it 120mm for the 29er Trail/light AM bikes such as the Whyte T-129....
Seems odd as all the bikes it's been photographed on seem of that ilk - I've yet to see it on an XC race bike! Spesh Camber, Trek Rumblefish etc.
Odd indeed!
The fork is only being produced in 29? format
Oh dear.
That shark has already jumped...!
[b]if[/b] it is stiff
The thing is, rock shox seem to be using statements like "stiff enough" so they aren't even heralding the stiffness of the fork, which suggests it is no better for stiffness either.
It is starting to look like it actually offers no advantage at all.
It's starting to look a lot like the Marzocchi RAC which was similar in intention (XC race, upside down) but ended up being heavy, just like this... So it died.
My thoughts exactly!
No emails sent as too busy unpacking boxes..?
If you ignore the price, it's a fork for the riding that nearly everyone does for fun, rather than a XC race fork, no?
Looks like all the disadvantages that people normally discount Leftys for (high price, new hub, "unique" looks) but without the advantages such the low weight and I'd be incredibly surprised if it was as stiff as a Lefty.... which is just ridiculously stiff. Pinkbike seemed positive about the fork but noted the small bump sensitivity was poor yet didn't feel this was much of a negative. Odd for an USD fork wwhere small bump performance is usually one of the theoretical gains. That is of course besides the other isseues already mentioned here. Doesn't grab me in the slightest! If anyone can sell this fork with good marketing over the reality of the thing, it is SRAM...
The thing I thought was most interesting about the RS-1 press release was the 32mm bottomless tokens, which it was stated will fit Rebas/SIDs/Revs. Whether that's [i]2015[/i] forks, of course...
Anyone know if the air top cap on the above has an internal thread?
Looks like the [url= http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/photos/tech-gallery-a-trip-through-the-cairns-mountain-bike-world-cup-pits/302858 ]RS-1 was at least in the pits at Cairns[/url]. Was it actually raced?
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That's £280 more than the top of the range SIDs isn't it? 😯
Seems a lot considering the lack of worthwhile benefits.
they do seem determined not to fit stanchion guards.
That's £280 more than the top of the range SIDs isn't it?
Yep, about that, for a fork that's heavier (and then requires a heavier hub). Where do I sign up...
[url= http://www.bikerumor.com/2014/05/08/dt-swiss-adds-rockshox-rs-1-compatible-predictive-steering-hubs-wheels/ ]DT launching 240s RS-1 hub[/url]
How much will the proprietary tool to remove/service the damper cost on top of that? And the hub/wheel of course.
