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Dunno, but my Crank Brothers Cobalt 11 carbon post arrived on Saturday and its lurvely 🙂 175g uncut.

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Posted : 10/06/2013 2:22 pm
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you'll save another couple of grammes if you remove the tubes in the clamp 😉


 
Posted : 10/06/2013 2:23 pm
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oh no, I was hoping for a comfy, light, fast sportive bike, as the advertising bumpf makes out.

Don't worry about it, I've just commuted into work on it, and I can honestly say I didn't notice the feedback after the first couple of miles. It was quite obvious to me after spending the morning riding the R5 and then getting on the CR1, but it's certainly not what I'd call uncomfortable... You'll just be able to read manhole covers without looking at them! 😀

In all honesty, it feels like a very capable bike - I think I'll enjoy riding it.

I suspect it's the seat tube diameter that transmits a bit more feedback - the Cervelo is 27.2mm. I can't see there being much flex in a 30.6 seat post no matter what it's made from...


 
Posted : 10/06/2013 2:28 pm
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Shouldn't you be bunny hopping manhole covers? 🙄

or you could always fit 28 tyres.
speaking of which how much room have you round the 23 conti's? will they fit 25's?


 
Posted : 10/06/2013 3:47 pm
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I'm just gonna put two tyres on mine.


 
Posted : 10/06/2013 3:51 pm
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There's 5mm clearance at the chainstays. I'd probably not want to go bigger than 25s...


 
Posted : 10/06/2013 3:52 pm
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you could of at least moved the cat poop off the lawn first!


 
Posted : 10/06/2013 4:01 pm
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Here's hoping that my pro is a bit more comfy than the SL...

I spoke to the shop today and they are happy to fit the headset before shipping it out. They said that stock is due to them tomorrow[b] and to expect delivery on Thursday or Friday (I ordered on Saturday).


 
Posted : 10/06/2013 4:02 pm
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Here's hoping that my pro is a bit more comfy than the SL...

In my experience, you probably won't be able to tell any difference unless you ride them back to back, and then it will be minimal - like the difference between an R5 and an R3, or a Supersix versus an Evo.

They tend to feel a bit more lively/spritely, but you barely notice any difference in comfort.

Anyway, everyone stop worrying! I'd hate to put a dampener on peoples' purchases - it really is an amazing bike! 😀


 
Posted : 10/06/2013 4:11 pm
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I hate this thread as its got me yearning for a new Scott Frame now, only have the Scott CR1 Pro (HMF) Road Frame Set (2012) in a 56 for £499, probably suit my riding and I can swap over my 105 groupset and fulcrum racing 5 wheels for starters.


 
Posted : 10/06/2013 4:13 pm
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Anyone installed the headset or a different BB yet?

Cant it be done with a diy headset press?

And can the bb be removed with a headset removal thingy?


 
Posted : 10/06/2013 4:52 pm
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Anyone installed the headset or a different BB yet?

I posted a tip earlier about the headset. The crown race was tight so was fitted using a steel pipe drift.

The headset cups won't fit in a Cyclus-style headset press, but if you turn the stepped conical drifts round, the flat ends fit perfectly.

A DIY press would be fine, if you want to risk it. 😉

I'm sticking with the Shimano BB fitted.


 
Posted : 10/06/2013 4:54 pm
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Got my 54cm (med) SL on Friday and now thinking the Pro might better suit my standard of riding.

Tell me more. I was gutted that I didn't get the SL, and assumed they were the same design apart from the quality of CF and hence weight. Is the Pro actually more forgiving?

The whole reason I was interested in the bike was as a Fred bike for someone who doesn't like racing bikes, ie something Audaxy. It appears from the statements above that it is actually not much of an Audax machine at all.

New Ultegra due out in September I think. Do you think that will push down the price of Ultegra 6700 significantly below the £550 is is now?


 
Posted : 11/06/2013 7:04 pm
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Has anyone built theres up yet? There's got to be one of you who'd going to beat this stem spacer stack

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Posted : 11/06/2013 7:34 pm
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Really can't see the point in this, it just seems like a spending exercise. Buy a hugely discounted frame, for no other reason than the facts its hugely discounted. Then build it up with shite parts.


 
Posted : 11/06/2013 7:35 pm
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Really can't see the point in this, it just seems like a spending exercise. Buy a hugely discounted frame, for no other reason than the facts its hugely discounted. Then build it up with shite parts.

Not strictly true for all of us.

I was after a nice road bike, but thought it may get to this time next year before I could get one.

The fact that I can et a decent frame at what is without doubt a very good deal, meant I bought it now.

and not all are putting shite parts on it.


 
Posted : 11/06/2013 7:50 pm
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Yeh sorry, I haven't bothered to read the whole thread, that's just the impression I was getting (off the above photo especially!)


 
Posted : 11/06/2013 7:57 pm
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So people should buy a full price Frame for £500 and hang their bits off there?


 
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Really can't see the point in this, it just seems like a spending exercise. Buy a hugely discounted frame, for no other reason than the facts its hugely discounted. Then build it up with shite parts.

Didnt you previously compare it to an alloy Canyon?

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Its a top quality frame at budget price. Some people might be building it up with budget parts to have a bike which at its heart is quality and will bear upgrading, some might be swapping parts over from a frame which has been "outgrown" by having its parts upgraded over time, thinking they'd never be able to afford a newer/better frame.

People like vortex are starting an already-planned quality build early, even if it might mean running it with, say, cheaper wheels for a year.

I haven't bought one but I can totally see the point, if I hadn't picked up a half-price Lapierre in the CRC private sale earlier this year I'd have snapped one up, having fallen into one of the aforementioned categories.


 
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Didnt you previously compare it to an alloy Canyon?

Yes, but what's that got to do with anything?


 
Posted : 11/06/2013 8:08 pm
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only that you've already said you don't understand why someone might want a high-end carbon frame when they can buy a fully built alloy-framed bike for the same price once its built up.

But I see you've already invoked the I.N.R.A.T.S defence, so fair enough!


 
Posted : 11/06/2013 8:18 pm
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I think that one of these frames with the current tiagra would be a fine build - some who have posted on this thread are on a budget and they will end up with a hell of a lot better bike than the same spend with a mainline dealer, better probably than a boardman... what's not to like ?


 
Posted : 11/06/2013 10:59 pm
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Really can't see the point in this, it just seems like a spending exercise. Buy a hugely discounted frame, for no other reason than the facts its hugely discounted. Then build it up with shite parts.

Guilty as charged. I mainly bought it cos it was a massive bargain, and I already have a perfectly decent roadie which meets my needs. But when has buying bikes ever been about common sense or practicality? If that was the case I'd have two bikes instead of 6. In my defence out of all the bikes I have the roadie is the oldest and most in need of 'upgrading', and is the bike I ride most so it'll get a lot of use.


 
Posted : 12/06/2013 12:45 pm
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Just had the 'order despatched' e-mail 🙂

Build thoughts
So, it seems i'll be doing my frame a disservice with the following but, hey, it's mine and improvements I expect i'll see in The Rider will far outweigh pretty much anything equipment upgrades may offer... 😉

Groupset - tiagra - £290 @ merlin
Finishing kit - merckx bars, tape, stem & prologo saddle from PX £40 - seems a steal at that price and cheap enough to swap out if 'rider position fine tuning' is required?
Deda seatpost, £22, PX
520 spd's
Rubino 3 pro - £36'ish / pair - Ribble + tubes

Wheels - aargh - so much to choose from.
Merlin are doing Tiagra Groupset with a pair of RS30's for 390.00 (white rims though - may be worth a call to see if they would offer the black?)

Askium - £145 @ Decathlon.

Bargain basement - RS501 - £66 @ Ribble.

All takes me above my £850 total spend limit but, ain't that always the way 🙂


 
Posted : 12/06/2013 3:59 pm
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Has anyone used the chain chatcher thing that came with their frame?

where have you put it in relation to mech/inner ring?


 
Posted : 12/06/2013 4:01 pm
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Gonna use one of Pros as a replacement for my trusty but flimsy Planet X SL Pro with old SRAM Red and EA50 wheels

After all I am going to the Alps for the Tour and all this Summer. For a week. That deserves a new frame. Obviously.

Hell I might even get involved in the Bath Crits next uni year for a change, rather than leading the heckle brigade.


 
Posted : 12/06/2013 5:01 pm
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Has anyone used the chain chatcher thing that came with their frame?

where have you put it in relation to mech/inner ring?

Is it a dog fang type:
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Line it up close to the inner ring.


 
Posted : 12/06/2013 5:06 pm
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that's the chap.

'hook' facing forwards or backwards?


 
Posted : 12/06/2013 5:08 pm
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I'd guess at backwards otherwise it might catch if the alignment is out a bit?


 
Posted : 12/06/2013 7:53 pm
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All takes me above my £850 total spend limit

true but I doubt you will get owt better for that sort of money.

and if you are already above the spend limit then sod it and get Dura Ace and Zipp. 😉


 
Posted : 12/06/2013 8:21 pm
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for wwasas [url= http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14777 ]here you go[/url]

for vortex - if i'm going ***t or bust..... [url= http://www.merlincycles.com/bike-shop/road-parts/transmission/groupsets-road-bike/campagnolo-80th-anniversary-super-record-groupset.html ]bling![/url]


 
Posted : 12/06/2013 8:59 pm
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yip that is bling, when are they delivering it 😉


 
Posted : 12/06/2013 9:27 pm
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yip that is bling, when are they delivering it

hope it arrives around the time my ZIPP stuff comes back from being gold plated 😉


 
Posted : 12/06/2013 10:01 pm
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show off !!!


 
Posted : 12/06/2013 10:07 pm
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Re the Dog Fang - screw in front of the seat tube, so pointing forward. Alignment won't be an issue, and if if was it'll just get knocked out of the way of the chainring.


 
Posted : 12/06/2013 11:02 pm
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Slightly OT, but cr1 related...
Anyone know what headset size/ standard I need to fit my '12 cr1 comp? The caged bearing Ritchey unit looked horrendous when I took it apart yesterday and has developed a horrible creak....
Thanks!


 
Posted : 13/06/2013 1:16 pm
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Cheap and relatively light wheels here for those on a budget build:

£149.99 (1622g + skewers)
http://www.planetx.co.uk/stock-wppxal30-planet-x-al30-wheelset.html

£164.99 (1510g + skewers)
http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=77&products_id=684


 
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Cheap and relatively light wheels here for those on a budget build:

cheers s'n'r - touch worried they'd not be happy with my 15 stone hulk atop them, though!

currently torn between Aksium's - good reputation - have lasted well under my 17 stone mate!
or, the curveball
[url= http://www.swissside.com/shop/st-bernard-wheelset ]Swissside, St Bernard. 1700g w/o skewers & tape[/url] so, not as light as your options but,rated for my weight. £136'ish at current exchange rates. Just need to remove the wood effect sticker...


 
Posted : 13/06/2013 2:31 pm
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Anyone built one up yet, would love to se what you're doing?

In progress pics, anything... want to live my carbon bike fantasy through your pics.


 
Posted : 13/06/2013 2:35 pm
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I bought a scott cr1 team a year and a half ago for under £1000 in full 105 5700 and aksium wheels. Is this the same frame?


 
Posted : 13/06/2013 2:47 pm
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@ eyerideit - a couple of pages back you'll find shibboleth's build pic. My carbon fantasy currently revolves around following the delivery tracking system of the courier - delivery due tomorrow 🙂
meantime, far too much time lost looking at build options.....


 
Posted : 13/06/2013 2:55 pm
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You bought one?

I'm still resisting and reading the threat which just is helping.

😈


 
Posted : 13/06/2013 3:44 pm
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You bought one?

Yup - the 'Pro' - 'cos Iiked the red bits 😉


 
Posted : 13/06/2013 4:07 pm
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I like grey, that's what's putter me off the Pro - we not putting off - just...

It'd look nice with SRAM Red on it but that's ££££££


 
Posted : 13/06/2013 4:16 pm
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Finally got round to start the build.

Actual frame weight for a 54 is 903g (no seatclamp, bottle cage bolts, headset or bb)

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But it was promptly interrupted when I realised I didnt have all the headset parts. Missing a crown race and have two different sized bearings.

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