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i need to get better at hills again! The problem i have is when i get to some really technical bits on long climbs that need that extra ooomph to overcome, i sometimes dont have the ooomph so fail to get over the obstacle and have to stop. Smoother stuff i can go on for ages on, and i dont think its a technique thing as about 6 months ago i was clearing these climbs, just not been on the bike so much this year.

Anyway, i like steep hill climbing on the road bike (doing big lakeland passes) and am going to start doing these as training rides regurlaly, (eg kirkstone pass from all 3 ascents) but are they good for mountain biking?

I could just keep trying technical climbs on the mountain bike, but i find if i do this whenever i fail i end up stopping, and sometimes its impossible to reclip and get going, so i end up waslking the bike for a bit then getting back on when i can, but this in effect is giving me a 'rest' from the climb. Thats why i was wondering if hammering up the passes on the road bike would be good as theres no rests??!


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:21 am
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Interval training realy helps with this, gives you more short burst power for those tricky bits (and to recover and keep climbing afterwards)


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:26 am
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what sort of stuff do i do for interval training to make it effective? Is this where you do flat out sprinting stuff then easier riding for a bit, then flat out again? Should i do this on hills or flat, and what sort of distances / times / reps


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:29 am
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yep, one minute at full bore, one minute spinning - repeat 2/3 times in your first session, then build up to 7/8 repetitions over time. You can also try 2 minute full bore, one min spinning etc.

Find a small hill / use a turbo trainer.


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:34 am
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just keep the reps up till you puke 😀


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:37 am
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Intervals, wall sits, squats. My climbing inproved hugely with intervals on the turbo trainer.


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:38 am
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cheers i'll try that tonight! Not sure if i should be looking forward to tonights ride or not now though 😕


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:49 am
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No, it'll be hideous. Enjoy 😀


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:52 am
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[i]i dont think its a technique thing as about 6 months ago i was clearing these climbs, just not been on the bike so much this year.[/i]

My technical ability drops off pretty quick if I don't keep at it. Did my first ride of the year at Cwmcarn back in April and my lack of technical abilty on the climb was quite shocking... I usally clear the lot apart from two or three dabs and this visit had me putting my feet down all over the place. Been back a couple of times since and I'm back on track again.

Strength also plays a part... agree with interval training and strength training. Squats, core exercises (V-sits etc) and plenty of press ups should see you right.

Kev


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:56 am
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Rather than go with 'full bore' hard intervals at first, you should probably concentrate on something like:

Warm up 10 minutes
• 6 minutes moderately hard pace
• 3 minutes steady cycling at low intensity
• Repeat 4-6 x
Cool down 10 minutes

By all means move on to the full bore ones after, but I wouldn't start with them. You can also increase the 6 minutes to 8 for example


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:57 am
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I'd also try the intervals on steady hills - say 5 mins steady but hard effort, and every 30 seconds spend 10 seconds at full tilt... but stay sat down, as I assume this is how you'll be tackling obstacles for rear wheel traction.


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 12:08 pm
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or every minute do 10seconds full tilt. Vary it though so your body is used to irregular efforts.


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 12:09 pm
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Never really bothered with intervals, just lots of miles and some quick rides. As a junior I won loads of races and did well enough as a senior. Anyway, ten years passed and I just started doing intervals on top of normal riding and commuting. After 5 sessions or so (on the turbo), the difference in my riding is vast, being able to sustain high power outputs really helps on short technical climbs, and I don't seem to suffer as much on longer rides. I can't believe I dismissed intervals for so long. It's also so unbearably hard that there's no time to get bored even on a turbo! 😀


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 12:31 pm