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Real shame about the swampthing being discontinued 😥 .I thought it was a great winter tyre.
hasnt this already been done 😉 😥
shame tho
Has it? I'm too distressed to function right!
this is madness!
Is there a replacement? Where is this reported?
Eh? I can't imagine maxxis would get rid of such a popular tyre without a replacement?
Who cares? swampthings are shit.
Kudos - no need to imagine anything, maxxis have discontinued plenty other popular tyres in the past.
Does seem a bit weird they haven't brought in a replacement though.
Does this mean the 2 2.5 dualplies I've got in the garage that I used once and decided never to use again will become priceless?
Nextdaytyres mentioned it in their recent newsletter and the maxxis tech who posts on MTBR announced it a few months back. I don't think it's as popular elsewhere as it is in the UK.
Yes, they are slightly retarded. Tried to find a folding supertacky, no luck as it has been discontinued.
Care to recommend another tyre, rather than doing your usual, 'it's shit' routine.
Got a pair of swampies S/T in shed if you are interested.
Might be time to get onto Specialized and tell them to make an SX or trail carcass Hillbilly...
I have one if it is 2.35 and going dirt cheap 😉
Think I'm going to try the Baron(black chili)when I replace my swampies. 2.5 Der baron upfront and a 2.3 Baron out back. They are expensive but all decent sticky tyres seem to be now!
I remember when 2.5 ST minions/swampy's could be had for £22 😀
that question aimed at me kudos?
I ride 60a dry conditions tyres all year round, my only recommendation would be for you to try doing the same. (unless you're racing)
I recently put a 60a DP Swampthing on the back of XC bike (@26psi) to get some better traction when pedalling. It's working really well, the extra effort to ride the tall knobs is more than offset by grip when putting power down. Road climbing is a little slower, but you can't have everything. You can keep your tacky rubber tyres - like dragging an anchor. 😆
swampthings are awesome tyres despite what GW says
I ride 60a dry conditions tyres all year round, my only recommendation would be for you to try doing the same. (unless you're racing)
oh ye, cus the conditions where everyone rides are the same as yours 🙄 one of the most noticeable improvements you can make on a bike is putting the right tyres on for the conditions. you dont have to be racing to notice that one tyre is finding grip in mud where another would become a slick after one revolution.
He's right they are proper sh_te.
that question aimed at me kudos?
I ride 60a dry conditions tyres all year round, my only recommendation would be for you to try doing the same. (unless you're racing)
Point is, you are an experienced rider who regularly spouts shite about MTB bits without recommending anything else. I don't need you recommendation, but some might benefit from it.
Using 60a swampys up front for the first time this winter. Compared to the 60a high rollers they are brilliant on steep, slippery descents.
Don't really care about the back 🙂
Swampthings shed mud better than my High Rollers and far better than any other tyre Ive tried.They grip better too and where I ride you wouldn't make it up half the climbs with a dry conditions tyre-seen many try and fail with these sort of tyres which are often specced on new bikes.
Kinda agree with GW 🙂
High rollers or Minnions are fine in mud (unless racing as said).
For trail riding i have always been against any type of mud tyre due to the damage they cause to natural trails,
At the end of the day they cut into the ground to grip, no one can argue they don`t do that, just look at some trails here in the Pentlands, or other peat based hills, Unfortuantly some folk do not seem to care about that to have zero slip and max grip,
Also you can`t beat a bit out of control 2 wheel slides to raise a smile riding in wet conditions 🙂
I've had GW telling me I was mistaken when I have extolled the virtues of Swampies before. Basically I don't think there is a better tyre for the wet slippy rooty trails round here at winter. I don't care if that isn't what they were designed for, they just work. The best thing though, is when the snow comes. They kick ass in that. I will miss Swampies but it won't be for a long while yet, I have a wee stock. PS, I have a wee stock because I'm sure they said this 2 years ago!
you mean a shit pile, not a wee stock 😉
Hmmmm, it might actually be time to get them out seeing as the dust has finally gone for the year now.
For trail riding i have always been against any type of mud tyre due to the damage they cause to natural trails
bull, mud tyres roll right on through only leaving a neat knobbly pattern, non-mud tyres slip, slide, spin and plough, churning up the goo.
the only way a mud tyre will shred a trail is if you spin it up ala motorbike stylee.
Actually, you're both wrong
Just fitted them for the first time, don't usually bother with 'winter' tyres. OMG they are fantastic! Nothing magical, don't chew up the trail... it's muddy, we leave tracks! But I can ride my local trails at summer speed not winter standoffishness if you see what I mean. Tougher on the road and to climb? Yea, that's better for my winter fitness regime!
They don't make me a better rider, just take my winter skills to a different level.
I have 42a swampies for dh and they're infinitely better than minions as soon as there's a layer of mud on the track. If there's a deep layer it's spikes. GW talks bollox!
Thing about mud tyres and erosion, is that people are more likely to go and ride through a swampy bit of trail if they have mud tyres, they're more likely to avoid it if they don't. I never have mud tyres on my XC bike outside of snow time, because I just don't ride the local trails that would need mud tyres, I leave them be.
Actually, you're both wrong
FFS! you sir, are a brilliant troll.
I'd be interested to know if theres a tyre inbetween the Ardent and the Swampthing (both faves). No I really don't like the Advantage.
I also have 42a swampies for dh and they're better than minions as soon as its wet on my local stuff. GW often talks bollox, but I still like him.
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Scurries away for a look
Swamps have never been a fashionable tyre and this was enforced by the fact the Sam Hill never used them - he'd always prefer a cut Wet Scream and therefore they get labelled as sh!t by all the cool kids and everyone is embarrassed to use them.
The fact that a 10 times World Champion quite rates them and they're a great tyre in super dusty conditions seems to have passed everyone by.
Dirt quite liked them in their latest tyre test.
toons - Member
@hora conti baron
How does the 2.3 Baron size up (compared to say, a 2.35 High Roller)?
A 6 ply 'Der Baron' seems a bit overkill for my uses, but I don't want a skinny little thing.
Dave
Due to lack of decent bike skill I've always grabbed the front brake at the wrong times. Swampy's have been the tyre that have saved my ass doing this. Terrible in soft earth conditions though- jesus its like riding through quick sand....waay too grippy there.
Winter - low temps etc etc, etc they really come into their own.
I love my Swamp Things. We have lots of roots around here and the ground is quite stoney (no rocks tho) and in the local woods there are usually large areas of deep mud, so in the past I have used a 42a swampy on the back with a 60a HR on the front. This winter I am riding faster and I am finding the HR is pushing wide for the first time so have just got a 42a swampy for the front. Yes the climbs will be harder but in a way they will also be easier than they are with my Larsons on, because the swampys will find whatever grip there is to find. The DHs will be great as there will be less to worry about over the rooty corners.
Swamp Things work here really well just because they don't work for you or your style of riding it doesn't make them shite.
Swamps have never been a fashionable tyre and this was enforced by the fact the Sam Hill never used them - he'd always prefer a cut Wet Scream and therefore they get labelled as sh!t by all the cool kids and everyone is embarrassed to use them.
GW = Sam Hill wannabe lmao
I'm way cooler than that short bloke with his ears tucked into his Monster Energy branded elmer fud hat, special needs shoes below the ankle cuffs on his hideous pants and a toilet seat round his neck thank you very much.
the guy does have a point either choosing dry tyres or proper spikes over swamp donkeys tho. and talking of the fashionably challenged. Danny hart wouldn't have won Champers on Donkeys either.
Still seems to be plenty of stock about. Maxxis had a change of mind?
Love my S/T on the front.
DM
Yep, maxxis have got them on their site (again?). I maybe wrong but I think they were taken off a couple of months ago. Maybe they have had a change of heart?
I tried a Conti Baron 2.3 today... That combined with the Specialized Hillbilly means no need to mourn swampies. I reckon Maxxis'll have a pre-cut spike out by the end of the year.
