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 D0NK
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All the advice I've read over the years (and my instincts) say drop the down slope pedal, stay upright, keep your weight central (and relax and try to stay higher up the slope where possible). Recent twitter convo someone said to drop the up slope pedal and lean the bike over to down slope side to engage more of the tread. I see the point of engaging the tread but I keep seeing issues with this method. So is this an advanced method only the pros talk to each other about?


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 10:50 am
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Outside pedal down, turn hips into the hill


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 10:55 am
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“Recent twitter convo someone said to drop the up slope pedal and lean the bike over to down slope side to engage more of the tread.”

?!?!?

Have a look at some clips of WC DH racers - they know how to do it!


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 10:58 am
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I would have thought a dropped up slope pedal would be likely to strike any obstacle and cause calamity.
I've done few dry, loose off camber trails recently, and I think my pedals are mid point. Eyes are probably closed, fighting instinct to feather the brakes....
Edit...yeah, hips facing into hill.


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 11:00 am
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This guy was always quite good for the technique


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 11:13 am
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Pedals level or downslope one dropped, angle bike into the hill slightly, point hips, and look!

Having the upper pedal dropped will have you off on the first root pedal strike!

Tyres have the things called side knobs which are sort of designed to bite I to dirt to give traction when the bike is leaned over. Random twitter advice can be dangerous...


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 11:15 am
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Been working on this the last few weeks as it's a weakness of mine.

Firstly you want to be looking at where you want to go ie the top of the slope and towards the exit. This will help you automatically turn your body and hips in that direction.
Secondly you want to exaggerate the hip turn up the slope a bit.
Thirdly you will need to drop the pedal on the lower side and put some extra body weight through it.
Fourth you need to lean the bike up the slope slightly to engage the side knobs on the tyre. When these grip they will automatically cause the bike to try and steer slightly up the slope.this helps with stability and staying on line as the bike trying to turn up the slope will help counteract gravity pulling you down.
Fifth is you need to be quite loose on the bike so that it can move around a bit and find the grip.
You need to do all this just before you enter the off camber section so that you don't lose that initial line immediately.

But the most important bit I've found is the need to commit to it with a bit of speed but not too much, same as a drop needs a certain speed to be safe so does an off camber section. Momentum really is your friend.

Edit tallpaul found one of the videos I've been using and couldn't find!


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 11:20 am
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Or adopt the cyclocross style, down slope pedal down, up slope unclipped and use leg as balancing thing, turn/lean slightly into slope.


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 11:23 am
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Recent twitter convo someone said to drop the up slope pedal and lean the bike over to down slope side to engage more of the tread

There’s your problem - Twitter is populated by twits, the clue is in the name.

It’s the last place to go to for cycling advice, or indeed any advice.


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 11:45 am
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Depends on the exit as well. There's one I ride regularly with catch bank/berm at the end into a LH turn. Unweight through the off-camber roots, skippety-skip, whack it into the bank at the end to get the turning done there with as much speed as you can.


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 11:49 am
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leaning the bike down slope is good mototrials technique for off-camber uphill sections - with the downhill beg weighted. Not sure if it translates to mtb, especially not with the uphill pedal down!


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 11:53 am
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1st response nailed it.


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 11:55 am
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All good advice and all inline with what I've read before, just wanted to check I wasn't missing something.

Interesting what Ned said, maybe tweeter is an ex motortrials rider


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 1:54 pm
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Motorcycling techniques are very often the opposite of cycling... I think, coming to MTB as an ex-motorcyclist is probably why I crashed so often in the early days... it’s all to do with the relative weight of bike versus rider?


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 2:24 pm
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i want to go downhilling so bad


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 2:28 pm
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Outside pedal down, turn hips into the hill

This bloke knows a thing or two. Taught him everything I know....................


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 2:34 pm
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Pedals level but downside pedal forwards, helps with jedis laser cock suggestion.


 
Posted : 20/05/2020 5:26 pm
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Outside pedal down, turn hips into the hill

I'm not sure but I know this lad knows his onions.


 
Posted : 21/05/2020 10:51 am
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Your tyre deforms into the slope anyway, unless pressure really high you are probably riding on most of the tread without angling bike.


 
Posted : 21/05/2020 10:55 am
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Face first has worked well for me in the past..


 
Posted : 21/05/2020 11:24 am