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Replace a Cotic Roadrat with?

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After 20 years of daily-ish commuting it might be time to possibly start thinking about getting a new commuter.
It’s been an absolute bulletproof workhorse. Ride, put in shed, repeat. All year. All weathers.
I would just get a new one but Cotic stopped making them for some reason.
I did some looking and can’t really see the modern equivalent.
So what is the modern version of the Roadrat -
Flat bar (designed for, not flat bars put on a drop bar frame)
Mountain bike geometry - relaxed
700c and wide
Pannier mounts
Mudguard mounts
Steel or Ali
Bulletproof, impervious to weather


 
Posted : 11/03/2026 11:24 pm
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Surly Bridge Club or Preamble?


 
Posted : 11/03/2026 11:57 pm
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I replaced my Roadrat with an Escapade. Nothing wrong with the RR, but I went from small to medium in the change as it suited me better. For your list of requirements, Cascade?


 
Posted : 12/03/2026 12:48 am
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Something from Pashley?


 
Posted : 12/03/2026 3:08 am
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Sticking with the ‘Rat’ theme

 

https://www.btr-fabrications.com/products/dad-rat/


 
Posted : 12/03/2026 6:01 am
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I wanted soemthing similar so stuck a rigid fork and some 650b wheels on my old 26er

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Could get some 700 x 40 slick tyres in there easily but wanted somthing that could take the rougher stuff a little better.


 
Posted : 12/03/2026 11:49 am
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Frame-only options that are closest might include the Surly Preamble, though it's a touch shorter than a Roadrat reflecting that it's built as a flat and drop bar bike.  Today's market seems to be dividing between MTB-lite (migrating more towards MTB standards, often including Boost) or gravel (closer to road for parts standards but typically optimised for drop bars). 

Built-up options seem much closer to Roadrat geometry - models like Trek FX, Spesh Sirrius, Kona Dew etc.  I'd consider going for one of these and changing the parts to suit.   


 
Posted : 12/03/2026 12:00 pm
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Flat bar (designed for, not flat bars put on a drop bar frame)
Mountain bike geometry - relaxed
700c and wide
Pannier mounts
Mudguard mounts
Steel or Ali
Bulletproof, impervious to weather

TBH I'd just buy a rigid MTB frameset something like a Sonder Frontier (before they go bust?) Seems to meet all the key requirements, and you can bolt whatever parts you want on, for Urban commutes a suitable set of 29x2"+ slicks/Semi-slicks will cover you. 

A change of tyres and luggage setup might expand it's use case towards more bike-packing type stuff if you're so inclined later...


 
Posted : 12/03/2026 12:45 pm
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700c and wide

How fat do you want your slicks to be? I think that'll be quite a deciding factor.


 
Posted : 12/03/2026 12:49 pm
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Sonder and Cotic offer flat bar gravel bikes, depending what material you want


 
Posted : 12/03/2026 1:24 pm
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Whats actually wrong with the 'Rat? My other half has a very early one too - done mega miles and still keeps trucking.

If it fits the job, would a respray and some new bits be an option?


 
Posted : 12/03/2026 3:33 pm
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If there are no issues with the frame, I'd definitely get a respray and a choice few new bits. It's amazing the change of feel that can do to a bike with an added frisson of eco-smugness. 


 
Posted : 12/03/2026 3:37 pm
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My eldest son bought a Boardman flat bar gravel bike TVRL 8.9 FB and it's excellent.  If I had to replace my Diverge it's be on the top of the list.

I don't know how the OP's requirements differ, but worth taking a look.


 
Posted : 12/03/2026 5:30 pm
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Big brother big bro?

I have fancied building one up as single speed commuter, it has sliding dropouts so can be run geared or single speed. Mind you the price has gone up a fair chunk in the past few years.

https://www.brothercycles.com/shop/frames/big-bro-2025/


 
Posted : 12/03/2026 6:06 pm
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Orange Speedworks?


 
Posted : 12/03/2026 8:44 pm
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https://primoscycles.com/collections/new-bikes


 
Posted : 12/03/2026 11:35 pm
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Giant FastRoad could be worth a look


 
Posted : 13/03/2026 1:44 pm
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Hi all - OP here - thanks for replies. This forum really is full of helpful knowledgeable people, bikes listed on here I have not heard of and given me some new ideas.
But i've been trying to interact with this post since the first reply. (Hopefully) this text will post. After about 10 attempts over 2 days. This site really is the worst forum by a mile. Delays, crashes, reloads, ads over everything, lost text, unresponsive clicks.
CBA.


 
Posted : 13/03/2026 9:36 pm
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That BTR looks mint 😄get that, live my dream!

I ride a on one Vandal with a rigid fork to work most days and do a wee bit of gravel on the way home some days.

Flat bar (designed for, not flat bars put on a drop bar frame). Tick

Mountain bike geometry - relaxed. Tick. Less relaxed with the slightly shorter axel to.crown solid fork 

700c and wide. Tick

Pannier mounts+.Mudguard mounts. Nope. Bodged on with p clips and have been solid for the last 3 years/ 3000 miles 

Steel or Ali. Ti, but the scandal is the same in alloy with mudguard/ pannier  mounts

Bulletproof, impervious to weather. Massive sks mudguards have seen me go through one tire, one chain and one set of brake pads in 3000 which I think is awesome. The back brake rotor is starting to get really thin. Been faultless other than that 

So I'd suggest the nicest hard tail you can find with some rigid carbon forks. 

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Posted : 13/03/2026 11:46 pm
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