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[Closed] Removing a super tight fixed sprocket - Will heating it up help?

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Morning all

I'm trying to remove a fixed sprocket from a track wheel and despite using an extension on the end of my chain whip it won't budge. And yes, I am trying to turn it the correct way.

If I heat up the sprocket, a Surly steel one, will it help to unstick it?

Ta in advance


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:09 am
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What chain whip are you using ? I've found that on a well usedย  fixed gear anything other than. A park sr 2.2 is pissing in the wind.

It's generally torque rather than corrosion that causes them to be tight so I wouldn't expect heating to do anything meaningful

Edit I may have the wrong guy but I recall from previous your near Aberdeen ..... How near I may be able to whip it off for you save you spending monies.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:13 am
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Can you put it back in the bike and back pedal/stamp on the crank? Wear shin guards.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:18 am
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Could try rotafix method

Heating would work if you have one of those very direct heating things that only heats the specific area.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:18 am
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Heating will help a bit by expanding it but if the hub is alloy that expands more with heat so you need to heat the sproket and cool the hub


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:21 am
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Cheers all.

Trail_rat - well remembered! However I'm in Inverness now. Thanks for the offer though!


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:43 am
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Probably a stupid question - if a proper track hub, have you removed the lock ring? And you do know the lock ring is left hand threaded? (many apologies if you already know this)


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:46 am
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Just looked at that Rota fix clip. I might give that a try.

In terms of heating it I was thinking of using one of those cookery blowtorches that you use for making the crispy topping on a creme brulee.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:49 am
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Yes, lock ring removed.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:51 am
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As above, locking removed, support the bottom bracket to lift the back wheel off the ground, drive side cranks facing rearward and see if a firm stomp on the pedal will shift it. You'll probably need someone else to hold the front of the bike down. ย If the sprocket is expendable, wheel off and backed into a corner and a firm hit with a big flat-bladed screwdriver.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 11:09 am
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Technique is all, how are you trying to remove it?

I found bracing the wheel against your shin or something solid and bracing yourself too, helped get good torque. AS long as you have a good tool fnaar.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 11:24 am
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Update - heating with the blow torch + the Rota fix method linked by kerley above = success!

Didn't require excessive force to shift it either.

Thanks all for your advice, especially kerley.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 11:33 am
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I normally "bus driver" it. Wrap the cog in old chain and stick it in a vice, grab a handfull of tyre and rim and pull.

Then i started using miche cogs that solved the problem.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 11:49 am
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If you don't have a vice you can still use the bus driver method.ย  Take off a pedal andย  stick a suitable bar through the holeย  so it can wedge on the chainstay then turn the wheel backwards.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 12:39 pm
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Then i started using miche cogs that solved the problem.

I went even further and changed to a Halo Fix G many years ago. ย I ride brakeless so can't be wondering whether my locking will have loosened and was getting problems with normal screw on sprockets due to the reverse forces when braking.

I can now change a sprocket in a few seconds and adjust chainlink to be sub mm perfect.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 12:44 pm