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Hi everyone,

Cut a long story short, I'm a mature student currently in 3rd year of sports coaching degree at Teesside University and doing my dissertation.

The subject is mountain bikers and basically looking at some of reasons everyone rides, types of personality, etc.

If you could spare 5 or 10 minutes this would be invaluable to myself and much appreciated.

I know some questions are interesting and may look irrelevant but I have to use academically validated surveys. The ethics department have cleared the use of the following:

Click here to take survey

Thank you in advance.
MIKE

ps. Please post on here once you have done it so I can thank you!


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 12:31 pm
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I dont ride Forestry Commission [or any other tbh] trail centres so cant help


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 12:35 pm
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Done, but nearly didn't bother completing it - too many questions, too many americanisms and what is surf-board riding?


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 12:38 pm
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A tad odd and a lot of it is about racing but completed anyway


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 12:41 pm
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Done. 2 questions neasr the end are the same.

some are good... some are rubbish.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 12:41 pm
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Cheers geoffj,

Yeah I know it's an old survey which I wanted to amend but due to validity was told not to.

Presume its Surfing....

Thanks for quick response, much appreciated and mustn't have taken long!

Mike.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 12:41 pm
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Cheers to TJ and weeksy, off to do some other work so thanks to all.

Target is over 50 so I'm sure STW users can help me on this one!

Mike


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 12:43 pm
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The subject is mountain bikers and basically looking at some of reasons everyone rides, types of personality, etc

So why the question about enjoying the company of swingers? 😯

Completed the looong and slightly odd survey anyway.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 12:46 pm
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questions were a bit 'all this or 'all that' with no real 'err, neither really' choices.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 12:47 pm
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Sorry, I started that but it was just appalling. The basic premise seemt to be that you're either a tired old fart or you're a wild crazy guy.

My views on sex before marriage/homosexuality/social ettiquette have NOTHING to do with riding a bike.

You need to rethink your survey


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 12:50 pm
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A lot in it about responses "in the competetive event" which isn't really relevant to trail centre riding.
But done anyway.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 12:54 pm
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I couldn't complete this questionnaire, so many of the questions make no sense or don't actually appear to understand the subject about which they're asking for an opinion.
Did you take the questions from a Mormon textbook from the 70s? "I would like to meet some homosexuals?" I really can't believe that there's an educational establishment in the UK that would approve this.
Oh, and it might be good to correct the American spelling.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 12:55 pm
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questions were a bit 'all this or 'all that' with no real 'err, neither really' choices.

+1

I can understand why people climb mountains or sail round the world, but I have no particular interest in it!

Not sure about the question about homosexuals either 😕


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 12:57 pm
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Sorry. Couldn't get past Q7.

"7. Do you participate in any other extreme sports:"

Which seems to infer that riding MTBs at trail centres is an extreme sport.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 12:59 pm
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Done


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:00 pm
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Done. 58 & 59 are the same question. Also, I don't like to pick holes in others work, but I'm sure you will have to complete some sort of analysis, and as such such, can I suggest...

With regard to drugs, you ask if the participant likes to get high and then give examples of two depressants (alcohol and marajuana), you also ask about "new" halucinagenic drugs, though traditionally, hallucinations are asociated more with LSD/mescaline & mushrooms, which have been around for years. I suppose you cold consider Ketamine to be a new drug, but this too, has been used recreationally for at least 15 years.

Also, a few of the questions offer unusual parralells. I can't remember any specific ones, but a sort of "do you prefer Ice cream or dinosaurs" type of question.

Please don't think I'm having a go, I know creating a questionnaire can be difficult and you have to create a picture of your participant as well as getting the info you specifically want.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:01 pm
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[i]do you prefer Ice cream or dinosaurs[/i]

dinosaurs, but I couldn't eat a whole one 😉


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:08 pm
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Done.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:12 pm
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done


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:14 pm
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Done!


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:20 pm
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Done too. Some pretty odd questions that I didn't really think gave me the correct range of answers though!


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:22 pm
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Really odd and I cant see how you would read the results.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:23 pm
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Give the guy a break. I hate badly worded surveys as much as the next person, but it is an undergrad dissertation in sports coaching not the national census.The method is what is being taught here. And he did explain about repeating an old survey to gain comparable data.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:23 pm
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Done, but far from understood...


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:28 pm
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Sorry, crap survey. Fix it or it will be pointless.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:37 pm
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Not done. Read the title of the survey and dismissed it as a "bag of w@nk".


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:41 pm
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Done


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:42 pm
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Based on responses here i'm intrigued but not enough to look at the oddness.

..goes to look for another thread.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:44 pm
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Clearly the research is trying to identify a correlation between personality types with attitude to risk and self-confidence in a sporting context- hence, the MBTI/Jung typology questions.

It would be interesting to see if there is a correlation between personality types and MTB disciplines e.g. XC, XC endurance, Enduro, AM, Trail, DH etc…


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:45 pm
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There's a lot of questions there where both or neither answers apply. Being able to tick all relevant answers would be better.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:46 pm
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Done, but the gay and swinger questions are a bit odd! 😆 Is it also assuming that there are no gay mountain bikers that are likely to participate in the survey? It seems to treat Teh Gays as some sort of strange novelty. "Ooh, a gay! I simply must add him to my collection because as a mountain biker I'm a thrill seeking, modern day Byron!"

Also, what if you admire people who go sailing in small boats, but have no interest in doing it yourself?


 
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done


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 1:50 pm
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I assumed the questions were intended to give a general indication of respondent personality, risk taking/averseness, and perhaps how generally outgoing they were, I guess it focussed on the sort of areas that people primarily associate with risk; Dangerous activities/sports, Sex, Drug and alcohol use.

The available responses will give a clear picture as they were generally very polarized, but not much depth, you'll probably find you have either have a lot of sexually uninhibited, booze addled, Risk takers or stone cold Sober, Risk Averse monogomists, and not much inbetween...

It's a bit of a "Course sieve" but if the questions were responded to in an honest way I think you could build up a reasonable snap shot of respondents general lifestyles and attitudes against their competitive performance? was that the goal though?

I think your survey may wind up lacking depth, you now know my age bracket, that I like riding MTBs and what my own impression of my performance on one is, plus you have a reasonable picture of my attitudes to risk taking, sex and booze, but you don't know much more about my demographics: income bracket, family situation, profession, education or for that matter how much time I actuall spend engaged in MTBing...

You also only asked if I engage in other "extreme sports", the responses to that question will give you an incomplete picture of the kind of wider sporting activities that MTBers engage in, I go running often and I know several who play football & Rugby and wouldn't class those as "Extreme" hence they won't be caught in your survey data... it would be wiser to ask for all sporting activities and perhaps for people to put Hours per week/month against each...

Drill down and you've got very little useful data it appears...

Have a good talk with your lecturer, the goal really should be what information do you want to get, or what hypothasis are you trying to test?

All I can tell from what I just filled out is that you suspect that FC trail centre users are Horny, Beer Monsters who like to take a risk or two, and want to prove/disprove that, if so then the suvey is perfect....


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 2:02 pm
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Done.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 2:03 pm
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done


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 2:07 pm
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done


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 2:12 pm
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Done.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 2:12 pm
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Tried. But ran into too many questions which were diametrically opposed with no middle ground eg I hate swingers/I love swinging.

You either had to be angry about something or a wholehearted participant..


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 2:17 pm
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Lol, either this is a troll or you need to get a new University!


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 3:39 pm
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Done. I'm assuming the question is whether narcissistic people make good sports people.

The answer is yes.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 4:08 pm
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Done - Hope it helps


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 4:19 pm
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just read bonkers
I have no issue with swingers free world and all that but I dont know any what do i say?
I know some gay people and I dont like them all what do i say
very odd and very all or nothing


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 4:19 pm
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Done but I cant help thinking that you've sampled 'mountain bikers that frequent an internet forum during the day' rather than 'trail centre riders'


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 4:29 pm
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Done, but if you'd told us it was a psycological test I'd never have agreed.
Hope it makes sense to you. Most of the nutters wear the white coats. 😕

No room for grey areas then ? Sometimes I like loud , wild parties, soemtimes I'd rather chat soberly. Some of my friends are gay, some gay folk annoy me. I've done a few drugs in years gone by, but never felt any particular need. I hope I'm far from narcissistic , but quite happy that I never know what to expect from myself ! How dull would that be ?


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 4:33 pm
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Overwhelmed by amount of responses much appreciated to all those that have taken time out to complete survey.

I also appreciate the constructive feedback, I know questions aren't best but they the industry standard so to speak for sensation seeking and self confidence research, apparently.

The unconstructive feedback is to be expected, freedom of speech and all that.

Searching for the right survey/questions was a bit like finding the perfect bike....... Had to go with something!

Thanks again to those who have or will go on to complete survey.

Mike


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 10:00 pm
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Done.
Good luck with it.
SB


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 10:20 pm
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Done, can see where some of the questions that seem bizzare will show through against other behavioural traits/thoughts.
Good luck with your degree 😉


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 10:22 pm
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Done. I dread to think what it says about me.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 10:26 pm
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I've finally finished and now lost the will to live! 😕


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 10:30 pm
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Done.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 10:32 pm
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Had a pop, pretty odd questions, seemed to end up with things like "well, I don't hate gays, so I must want to meet some" going round my head to get to an answer. When really I am pretty ambivalent, not really botherered if you are gay, bi or straight. Oh, and just because I want to jump out of a plane doesn't mean I think I actually could, but the question said do I [i]want[/i] to so...


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 10:39 pm
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Done HTH and good luck with your studies.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 10:39 pm
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seems there are some sexual questions, like on a dating site.

You lonely after new freinds or just sex.


 
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weird.

first, there aren't "industry-standard" questions.

second, there are a lot of ethical issues involved in asking people about sexuality and other activities, and getting informed consent from people before you start, and you seem to have missed this.....

also, any questionnaire allows for a range of answers, not black or white perspectives - only poorly-designed ones that try to push a particular perspective have these.

I suspect your coursework is actually asking you to question this methodology and approach. If you were at the University I work at (and sit on the ethics committee of) the you'd get a poor mark from blindly following instructions in the face of so many obvious issues.


 
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I filled it in but it seemed to be more about the qualities needed to win in sport as opposed to anything I can relate to mountain biking, which is about getting fit, pootling around, and er, basically not racing anyone!


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 10:52 pm
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Done.

I conclude that mountain bikers must party on, smoke weed and have sex at swingers parties until the beer stops flowing judging by those questions.


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 10:55 pm
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So I didn't answer it as it seemed to bear no relation to any of my mountainbiking experiences or thought process...So here are some thoughts why I do bike.
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Posted : 24/01/2012 11:03 pm
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DOne - whoever constructed it is an arse though

(or a lot cleverer than me, I suppose)


 
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Done.

Weird. No mention of chainsaws, axes, knives, Audi's, Thatcher, Lefties....

Pretty unrelated to here overall!


 
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Done. I'm not sure why.


 
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Not done, for all the constructive reasons given above. Incredibly weak survey methodology.


 
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Done

Hope it helps


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 11:12 pm
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43.
A- I would like to meet some persons who are homosexual (men or women).
B- I stay away from anyone I suspect of being “gay” or “lesbian.”

A- I would like to meet some persons who are homosexual (men or women). B- I stay away from anyone I suspect of being “gay” or “lesbian.” A

B

How bloody stupid - I don't particularly want to meet gay people but I don't want to particularly want to meet straight people either! I had to answer but the options are both so far from the truth that my 'answer' doesn't count.

I suppose there's some meaning to this survey but not being in the middle of it, I've no idea of what it's value is.

Good luck with your work though OP. 😀


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 11:26 pm
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I'm sure that I'm down on your list of not constructive but I truly can't believe that your academic institution has allowed you to ask some of those questions, actually I might contact them to find out.
The options for some of those questions are so judgemental and in my opinion quite ignorant that I am still amazed that anyone could still ask them in the 21st century - I might have expected it in Burnley in the 70s but not in 2012.
Oh, good luck with your degree 🙂


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 11:49 pm
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Sorry. I gave up wasting brain power trying to make sense of the questions.


 
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done, became quite bizarre!?


 
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Done.

Again, curious about what the ansers to the questions on the 2nd page will indicate about our personalities: I didn't want to learn to skydive or learn to fly a plane (I have in the past looped, stalled, barrel rolled etc a plane, but riding a bike is cheaper and less ecologically unsound), because I have reservations about avaition and fuel/carbon rather than a fear of heights etc.

...And narcissistic folk don't [i]necessarily[/i] like losing control with drink and drugs, or hanging round or partying with other people who are 'risky' in terms of showing them up or making them look foolish.


 
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I started and got quite a way in. Then the questions and potential answers stopped making sense so I quit it. Not a good survey. It felt like I was being pushed towards fitting in some sort of box...so I'm oot.


 
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started doing it and felt the questions on the second page were a bit shit.

what task or competition?

then i read some of the other responses to the survey and decided to carry on. now on Q29 and have found it somewhat contrived. what has the ethics dept. got to do with it, anyway?

i'll continue answering, but only because i'm bored....


 
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new drugs? old drugs make you hallucinate. new ones make my eyes go funny and my jaw sideways....


 
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actually, this is funnier....


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:48 am
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no... can't do it... i've given up.

any answers i give can't be counted as they don't reflect what i feel (surely the whole point of a survey). questions are too black and white and obscure.

what if i do already bodysurf, or have gay friends or am a swinger myself?

sorry...


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:52 am
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what if i do already bodysurf, or have gay friends or am a swinger myself

well given the drugs answer i would go for wild weekends and hazy memories 😉


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:58 am
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Done.

I reckon the cunning plan to chase out the sanctimonious high-horsers has worked a treat.


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 7:51 am
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Done 🙂


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 9:30 am
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Hi all, thanks very much to those that have completed the survey so far, way above what I was looking for!

However, in response to EXCENTRIC whom I'd like to thank for your comments, I must reiterate that ethical approval has been given by the Teesside University Ethics Committee for this project, however, I am following-up your concerns by suspending the study, until discussions with my supervisor can take place and any amendments will be made immediately.

Thanks again.
Mike


 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:55 pm
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Survey is back open again, so for those that didn't get chance and don't want to miss out, click on following link!

Your time is much appreciated.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Mountainbikingsensationseekingsurvey

ps, yes ethics are happy with everything.

Mike


 
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Done...


 
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