Cycling through Herts this morning ,commuting to work.
Lovely quiet back lanes ,beautiful morning.
I get to a bit of a short sharp shock of a climb,
past a driveway I've passed many times.
From nowhere,five crazy dogs,
four nasty little terrier bastids and some kind of spaniel
came sprinting out barking&snapping at my heels.
I sh*t myself.
They chased me for what seems like an eternity ,
I kicked out at a couple as i tried(and failed) to sprint away.
No contact was made ...honest.
The lead dog let out a yelp and carped it in the middle of the road.
Heart attack?
Serves you right pooch.
The other dogs stopped and looked sickened,
like when a footballer breaks his leg and his mates can't look.
Had to share.
Call it therapy.
J.
yep. its great when something dies isn't it.
be nice will that, the owner finding his dog dead in the road.
senorj, i hope you get knocked off your bike on the way home....... 😆
Thanks for that ton.
no worries............ 😀
So because it snapped at your heels and you didn't manage to kick it's head in, you're glad it's dead?
Nice fella, real nice!
Get chased by a dog and the dog keels over and dies, what's not to like?
Stuff dies all the time, it's part of life, maybe it died doing what it loved more than anything; chasing cyclists?
as to be seen on Dog walkerworld.com in five min..
Poochie 101 said: Nasty cyclist killed my dog by kicking it
Leaves crap on the foot path 205 said: Bastards I always cut them up in the car they are all the same dog hating lycra louts
Good job there mate!
No excuse for Dogs not being under control It does surprise me that people think its ok for there pooch to run up barking and snapping while shouting its ok he doesnt mean it...... if you have a dog it shoul be under comtroll, even if that means on a lead IMHO.
.......wishing it dead is bad form though......
8/10 for the troll 8)
I once got bitten twice on the same ride, within a mile of each other. One was more a playfull puppy labrador nip at the heels - been walked by a couple of fit ladies so wasn't really bothered!!
The second was from a dog that belonged to a fella that i'd met several times, both while riding & walking my own dog, i'd stopped for a chat & think that the sound of cleats clicking in to pedals spooked it - was a good job i had longs on as it left a hell of a bruise.
[B]if you have a dog it should be under control, even if that means on a lead [/b]
+1
Its never nice to wish something dead - But I bet the dogs were happy to cause harm to senorJ that day, thats not nice too. SenorJ just shouldn't feel happy or bad about it move on.
Owner a touch irresponsible to leave 4 or 5 dogs running free in and out of front gate really....
if you have a dog it should be under control, even if that means on a lead
+1
Personally I detest the things and I find the presumption by owners that other people welcome their animals inquisative interactions,irritating to say the least!
viv.
i agree , I would never wish anything dead.
I didn't wish the dog dead,it just died.
I did not hit the dog at all.
Still serves it right though. 🙂
I saw a dog tormenting a bird on my last ride. It had mauled the poor thing's wing, so I smacked the dog and chased the poo-spewing thing away back to it's wax coated owners. No regrets.
+2 Wookster and rOcKet.
dog owners should keep their dogs under control. especially when there are other people around. cyclists should also not act like they're not their though. a bit of courtesy on both sides is the way forward.
Dogs I generally have no problem with... kids on the other hand should be kept on a lead after I'd had several in the last few days just randomly swerve into my path when I've been both riding and running...
Don't worry about the poor little chap.
He's gone to a happier place now. And one day his owner will join him there.
[url= http://rainbowsbridge.com/poem.htm ]Rainbow's Bridge[/url]
dogs are useless unless they're eaten or bred for fur coats
"at least he died doing what he loved"
Maybe as a mark of respect we should have a 2 minute silence on this thread.
Please all bow your heads now.
And relax.
that was more like three. We are too nice.
Last week me and my two boys were out for a walk. Coming the other way was a guy walking his Boxer dog. For some reason, poorly trained probably, the dog decided to take a run for my 3yr old son. Unfortunately, the guy didn't hold the dog's lead firmly enough to stop it and the dog flattened the boy scaring the shit out of him in the process. Was I fair in my decision to take a steel toe capped welly boot to its ribs, grab its lead and throw it down the path? The owner spouted the usual "he's only playing" nonsense too.
Thing is I quite like dogs and used to work in kennels, I just hate dog owners that think this is acceptable behaviour.
Nick - Member
Get chased by a dog and the dog keels over and dies, what's not to like?Stuff dies all the time, it's part of life, maybe it died doing what it loved more than anything; chasing cyclists?
😆
senor j - Member
viv.
i agree , I would never wish anything dead.
I didn't wish the dog dead,it just died.
I did not hit the dog at all.
Still serves it right though.
"Reap what you sow little doggy"
Does that comment not suggest that because a snappy little (possibly farm dog) gave you a bit of hassle it deserved to die?
Reap what you sow?
If my cat tried to scratch you, would you be glad if it then ran under the wheels of a car?
I agree dogs should be under control. I understand the dog died of natural causes and it's not the end of the world.
My take on this thread is merely that you don't seem to be a very nice person. If you're ok with that, then we can all get on with our lives.
Was I fair in my decision to take a steel toe capped welly boot to its ribs, grab its lead and throw it down the path? The owner spouted the usual "he's only playing" nonsense too.
No, the dog didn't know any better - you should have booted the owner.
Here's a couple of questions for you all: If a human behaved in the same way as the dog would it be acceptable? And, if not then why does it appear acceptable for the dog to do so?
why did you sh*t yourself over a few little dogs for ?
Whenever a dog(s) chase me on the bike I stop riding and stand still... dog has nothing to chase anymore and the excitement is over allowing me to say hello and be friendly to it.
sounds to me like you need to learn how to react when faced with situations instead of panicking like it's the end of your own life 🙄
from the OP i'm not convinced there was anything to worry about, unless it has been written less scary than what actually happened.
Obi_Twa - MemberHere's a couple of questions for you all: If a human behaved in the same way as the dog would it be acceptable? And, if not then why does it appear acceptable for the dog to do so?
i'm not entirely sure this is non-bollocks, you know...
If my cat tried to scratch you, would you be glad if it then ran under the wheels of a car?
If your cat tried to scratch me then it would get the biggest kicking in its life. Now, i 'like' cats, i love dogs and i 'like/love' humans, but if a human tried to scratch me it would get a kickin, a cat scratch me a kickin, a dog bite me a kickin.
You as an animal owner needs to wake up and realise that its not o.k for your pet to go around harming other things and think that we will just tolerate it.
So to answer your question, if your cat scratched me then got run over, i would try and help it but on the other hand i wouldn't feel at all guilty towards it, just look upon it as bad karma
I think you need to relax radogair.
So a totally untrainable animal tries to give you a little scratch, then you'd kick it's head in? As long as you'd be ok with me giving you the same treatment after kicking my cat.
What about feeding a horse and it bit your hand - would you shoot it?
When animals become more important that humans it's a sad day.
I think what our countryside needs is the introduction of wolves and bears to liven it up a bit and keep everyone on their toes.. introduce a sense of perspective etc...
be nice will that, the owner finding his dog dead in the road
so to save the doggies any distress he should have allowed them all to bite him lest they overexert themselves ?? Having been bitten more than once for no reason whatever I too would derive considerable satisfaction from seeing a snapping dog injure/kill itself while trying to get me - whyever not ? If the owner doesn't want Bonzo to croak itself they should keep it away from such excitements. What if it had been a child on a bike ?
Obi_Twa - Member
When animals become more important that humans it's a sad day.
When animals are so unimportant they should be kicked, or beaten for their uninformed actions it's an even sadder day.
SFB - nothing you say surprises me, so I can't be bothered to rise to you.
Animals are unimportant. Humans are apex predators, dogs and cats etc are not.
Keva - Member
why did you sh*t yourself over a few little dogs for ?Whenever a dog(s) chase me on the bike I stop riding and stand still... dog has nothing to chase anymore and the excitement is over allowing me to say hello and be friendly to it.
sounds to me like you need to learn how to react when faced with situations instead of panicking like it's the end of your own life
Ha - I remember I used to be tormented by a dog on one particular ride, one time I stopped riding and waited and he just ran up and bit me.
I propose that the new coalition heavily taxes dogs, ring fences the money and pools it into a running man style exploding collar scheme that can be rolled out nationwide in less than a year......
Then the technology could filter up to humans and stop bikers from using the footpaths....
Or we could just try and live together
Obi_Twa - Member
Animals are unimportant.
I don't think I need to add any further comments, or maybe just one......
PRICK!
Constructive post that. Well done. You must be proud.
Whenever a dog(s) chase me on the bike I stop riding and stand still... dog has nothing to chase anymore and the excitement is over allowing me to say hello and be friendly to it.
Exactly. Of course whether most STWers will interrupt getting their gnarl on with a little common sense is another matter.
Kicking dumb animals is poor form. I've found there is much more satisfaction gained from punching them. Try it on the next cat you come across and share my joy.
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR -"Reap what you sow?"
Yes ,as in you get what you deserve.
Had the dog not exerted itself it would probably be ok.
It didn't,and it died.
There you go.
I'm not ecstatic about it ,
more indifferent , like "oh that doesn't happen often"
I don't hate dogs but I love people more.
Keva- you're right, now I think of it, I did panic.
I'll try the standing still method next time.
Although Viv's experience puts me off somewhat.
I'm a big scaredycat really. 🙂
I think you need to relax radogair.So a totally untrainable animal tries to give you a little scratch, then you'd kick it's head in? As long as you'd be ok with me giving you the same treatment after kicking my cat.
What about feeding a horse and it bit your hand - would you shoot it?
so why are you allowing a 'totally untrainable animal' to have freedom of your house/outside. If its 'totally untrainable', then it should be in a cage.
As for your 'if you were feeding a horse' scenario, thats just totally pathetic.
If animals bite, nip, scratch you then expect them to get what they deserve. You cant exactly sit a cat down and tell it its naughty and if it does it again then it will be 'grounded' for a week like you can with a person.
Now if an animal continues to bite or even maul humans then the law will pass judgement and yes that includes putting them down, just like if a human does that to another human/animal, then the law will pass judgement and 'cage' them ( or in America fry em, or middle east countries -chop there hands off)
Think you need to look at yourself in the mirror because when you start treating animals as having more rights than humans then you are seriously deluded. At all means have them as pets, but, understand that they must at all times be under control
And as for your 'giving you the same treatment after kicking my cat' comment, that is poor poor form. Of course i can just come upto you and scratch your eyes out if you want and 'expect' to get away with it.
T*AT
so why are you allowing a 'totally untrainable animal' to have freedom of your house/outside. If its 'totally untrainable', then it should be in a cage. [b]my cat's placid most of the time, but occassionally it will swing a leg out and give you a little scratch - I don't think that warrants the kicking of it's life - perhaps if I was as highly strung as you I might do[/b]As for your 'if you were feeding a horse' scenario, thats just totally pathetic. [b]ok then, would you hit the horse, or beat it if it nipped or kicked you whilst you were in it's space?[/b]
If animals bite, nip, scratch you then expect them to get what they deserve. You cant exactly sit a cat down and tell it its naughty and if it does it again then it will be 'grounded' for a week like you can with a person. [b]here we are again - give it what it deserves? You seem to be forgetting that for the most, animals don't really know what we as humans perceive to be right or wrong. Yes they can be trained to a certain extent, but ffs, back to an earlier comment does a little scratch from a cat (and I only intimated to it 'trying' to scratch you) deserve a good kicking. I'm just trying to highlight peoples massive over-reaction, not giving an outright defence to agressive animals.[/b]
Now if an animal continues to bite or even maul humans then the law will pass judgement and yes that includes putting them down, just like if a human does that to another human/animal, then the law will pass judgement and 'cage' them ( or in America fry em, or middle east countries -chop there hands off) [b]There's a big difference to a reactionary snipe from a dog or cat to it mauling someone[/b]
Think you need to look at yourself in the mirror because when you start treating animals as having more rights than humans then you are seriously deluded. At all means have them as pets, but, understand that they must at all times be under control [b]please point out where I said they had more rights[/b]
And as for your 'giving you the same treatment after kicking my cat' comment, that is poor poor form. Of course i can just come upto you and scratch your eyes out if you want and 'expect' to get away with it. [b]poor form or not, try kicking my cat in a massive over-reaction and see what happens. Your analagy of scratching my eyes out is totally off the mark[/b]
T*AT [b]thankyou[/b]
This thread appears to have attracted some really unpleasant people.
This topic is getting way off line, I mean, how many cats (I'm talking puddy cats, not 'Lion & Tiger' type cats) run up & scratch someone? Eh?
Keep it real.
The dog gave itself the heart attack and ok,very sad if you're the owner. But on an uninvolved level, the picture of the yappy dogs sprinting cockily in their pack after their poor, defenceless quarry (no doubt egging each other with doggy war cries) and then the utter dumbfounded deflation of the pack as their 'heroic' leader just keels over in mid yap...got to admit it's a little bit funny? 😆
Obi_Twa - Member
When animals become more important that humans it's a sad day.
No there are plenty of humans I would rather see drop dead in the road before my dog does
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR
Your again taking my quotations out of context.
Giving animals what they deserve for a little nip, scratch etc could be as little as a pushing away, a tap on the nose, a telling off, depends on the circumstances.
i would call it as it is. If i was out riding a bike then using my feet to keep an animal from biting my ankles to me would be acceptable, but if an animal (dog, cat or wild) shows aggression, wanting to inflict pain and continous with its doing so then i will do what i have to to prevetn the animal from doing so.
Now, if your cat was on my lap (hypothetically) and i was stroking it and it scratched me then it would get pushed away as that would be my knee-jerk reaction. If it actually jumped towards my face and done so then i would react as seen fit.
Dont get carried away with your defense against me, i do love animals (altho allergic to them). My point being, and this is regardless of animal or human, i will react to a situation as i see fit but in no circumstances do i see an animals life as more important than a humans.Now what the OP did in my eyes was completely correct and relevant to the situation. What happened to the dog was not the OP's fault and for its death, thats a tradegy. Would or should he feel guilty, not at all.
I'm with Edric64 on this. The more people I meet; the more I love my dog.
This thread is hilarious 😆
How can something get so over excited that it blows its heart up? Pre-existing medical condition?
There again I think horses can be rode until they keel over. (if the films are to be believed)
I like this thread,
Some seriously angry people.
If it was me against the Dog, i'd make sure i won.
If it was dog against my three year old, dog would get a bigger kicking (after SS_Shep jr poked his eye's out and stuffed a toy car down its troat)
BUT if the dog is innocent and doesn't bother me it can go on with its life.
How can something get so over excited that it blows its heart up?
You've never been to Scarborough have you? loads of kids get kicks out of feeding baking powder to seagulls,
seriously people, the op (who i think is a ****Er) is pretty much saying that he is glad someones pet/animal/companion is dead.
what a ****ing complete knobber... 😀
No I'm feeling the rage, on my ride home this morning a swan looked at me in a funny way, I just let it go. But I was wrong, on my way to work tomorrow I'm going to find that swan and kick the shite out of it!
A dog chases a bike, keeps up for a while then drops down dead?
That was not an old dog with a heart that had come to the end of its natural life.
That dog had been [b]OVERFED[/b] by its [b]IRRESPONSIBLE[/b] and ultimately [b]CRUEL[/b] owner.
The owner bears all the blame for this. They probably gave it little "treats" - a bit of chocolate here, a saucer of beer there, a few chips mixed in with the Pedigree Chum. And ultimately, when that poor innocent animal was doing what comes naturally (chasing cyclists, biting them and getting caught in their wheels) it paid the ultimate price.
We should all [b]mourn[/b] that animal, for it was a victim, killed by the person it trusted the most.
Two minutes silence. Again.
Which tyres are best for this?
Which tyres are best for this?
Oy. Shut up. Some of us are weeping inwardly.
radoggair - MemberIf your cat tried to scratch me then it would get the biggest kicking in its life.
radoggair - MemberYour again taking my quotations out of context.
Giving animals what they deserve for a little nip, scratch etc could be as little as a pushing away, a tap on the nose, a telling off, depends on the circumstances.
No he's not taking anything out of context, you're just contradicting yourself
And why take it out on an animal that has no idea that its doing anything wrong, do you rub your kids nose in a nappy to get them to use a potty? do you beat them if they accidental scratch you, or poke you in the eye.
what a prize idiot you are
Sooooo.....
Anyone see the match eh?
Warton - do you have the ability to read?
Great troll. Could run and run.
[woof]
Sooooo.....Anyone see the match eh?
[url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/football-who-cares ]
Bullshit thread.
Move on people.
one of my dogs died this morning
they are normally locked in the back but unknown to us a visitor left the gate open
I found him 100 yards down the road from my front gate
Vet said it was a heart attack but he also had large internal bleeding from a blow to his side
No he's not taking anything out of context, you're just contradicting yourself
Warton, i'm not contradicting myself. If that cat TRIED to scratch my eyes out i would defend myself more severely than if he just did it whilst i was stroking him. Read what i said first.
And why take it out on an animal that has no idea that its doing anything wrong, do you rub your kids nose in a nappy to get them to use a potty? do you beat them if they accidental scratch you, or poke you in the eye.
No i wouldn't but alot of dog trainers rub there pooches noses in there wee and then take them outdoors to teach them to do it outside and i wouldn't do that to 'my' kids. In fact i wouldn't like my kids to go outside full stop to do a pee n poo and then follow behind them with a 'kiddie scoop'.
But then i suppose if your comparing them then why dont you just stick a collar round your kids neck, add a little tag and call them 'lassie' as well.......... idiot
Think your being the prize idiot here
Bullshit thread.
Nah, keep up the self righteous babble.
Best thread since cinnamon_girl's badger 😆
No i wouldn't but alot of dog trainers rub there pooches noses in there wee and then take them outdoors to teach them to do it outside
Negative reinforcement has been frowned upon for some years now, I doubt you'd find any good trainer that still does this...
anyway sorry if I got a bit carried away with the dog v kid thing, not the greatest comparison in the world!
Dont like to see any animals hurt or worse!but if dogs chase/bite they shouldn't be loose.
radoggair - far more sensible response this time and one that I can live with.
Your first post however just highlighted the notion that some people seem to think animals should be hurt for very inoccuous animal like (strangely enough) behaviour.
Ahhhh i love singletrackworld, its become a bit like last of the summer wine, confortably predictable, endlessly repeating over and over and over again........
we love/hate/kick dogs
we love/hate/kick our caravan dwelling cousins
we love/hate/kick onone
we love/hate/kick STW magazine
we love/hate/kick fred
mmm ... +1 to TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR, Keva etc
Of course being chased by a dog is scary and threatening, but there is a difference between an owner who deliberately lets their dog do this (in which case get exceeding angry at the owner); and a dog that might have escaped accidently and is then defending its patch (which sounds like the case with the OP if he has ridden up that way before without any problems). I can't see any need in taking enjoyment if the dogs suffers or dies.
Using violence against any animal is only acceptable in order to defend yourself in an immediate situation. If your child is knocked over by a dog running, then of course you're justified in being angry at it's owner - but kicking the dog with steel-toe capped boots and throwing it down the lane is unacceptable unless this the only option in order to defend your child? If not, then in my opinion violence against animals is unacceptable unless in immediate self-defence, as it is against humans.
Are animals 'more' important than humans? No ... they are equally as important in terms of having a right to not be subjected to abuse or unneccessary violence. And on balance, attacks and abuse on dogs / cats etc by humans far exceeds that of attacks by dogs on people (maybe a trip down to the RSPCA will give you an idea of the deliberate abuse that animals suffer at the hands of humans)
"Ahhhh i love singletrackworld, its become a bit like last of the summer wine, confortably predictable, endlessly repeating over and over and over again........
we love/hate/kick dogs
we love/hate/kick our caravan dwelling cousins
we love/hate/kick onone
we love/hate/kick STW magazine
we love/hate/kick fred "
that made me smile
How do you know it wasn't a trick to lure you back to be ripped to shreds.....cycle past tomorrow and count how many dogs are out 😀
By the way...shame on you not being able to outsprint a bunch of terriers 😥
Confused by this post. I assumed the OP had managed to take a dump, contrive a situation for a random dog to wander through it and then trample it round the owner's house
seriously people, the op (who i think is a ****) is pretty much saying that he is glad someones pet/animal/companion is dead.what a ****ing complete knobber...
right or wrong it's not his fault the dog was not under it's owners control or that it died through it's own over excitement.
i can't say your 'choice' words are justified either.
No-one has claimed it's his fault Mr Smith - it's more his apparent glee at the hound's demise that caused the initial reaction.
No-one has claimed it's his fault Mr Smith - it's more his apparent glee at the hound's demise that caused the [s]initial[/s] massive over-reaction.
fixed it for you