[Closed] Rail Rage - anybody handled it better than I did this morning?

Everyone seems to ignore the no cycles on trains to/from London (during peak time) on SouthWest trains, rail staff included.

But using the train for 7 miles - in summer ? 😯

Bloody cyclists!

(that's what they all thought)

Taking the train for 7 miles - are you mental?

allthepies - Member

But using the train for 7 miles ?

3/10 no random capitals no spelling mistakes (that i noticed)
my advice is get up earlier and cycle the whole 7 miles in to work for the duration...

I had a bit of a nightmare on the last train home on a saturday evening. Got on the train fine at Waterloo, but then literally 8 million drunken morons boarded at Clapham. People were crammed on with no space whatsoever. You can guess what they thought of my and my bike taking up precious standing/vomiting space. OMG, i thought they were going to kill me.

Must buy a brompton...

C'mon guys: 7 miles of [i]tortuous winding cycle path[/i]. Sounds truly horrendous.

I stomp off and cycle to work in fastest time ever! 7 miles in under 30 mins (tortuous winding cycle path).

Why don't you just cycle in anyway? It's only 7 miles and half an hour? I feel sorry to the guard, he was probably thinking 'why?' too, but was too professional to call you a cazy lunt 🙂

I probably wouldn't have got off. Just ignored him. Nowt he can do unless he wants to delay the train. So long as the aisles were clear there is no issue. If the aisles were blocked by your bike then he was right and you should have gone quietly and I wouldn't have even tried.

You use a train for 7 miles? Are you a masochist?

Sorry, just want to repeat the last (x3) question...using a train to go 7 miles? Save yourself a fortune and use the bike - after a week you'll wonder why you ever used the train.

I started commuting the 15 miles to work on my bike after a similar "discussion" with a short Scotrail jobsworth. I'm not heightist but this guy was short, had the power of the uniform and was willing to use it...

Should really thank him now 🙂

that's no way to start the day. Now you're all het up and antsy. get up a little earlier, and bimble in to work all calm and collected.

Always find it strange to see people cycling really fast to work, like they WANT to be there rather than on the bike? 🙂

[i]"Always find it strange to see people cycling really fast to work, like they WANT to be there rather than on the bike?"[/i]

Maybe they're going the long way round and still trying to get there in the same time. 😉

Ride 7 miles? Or throw yourself at the mercy of the epically-inefficient, noisy, smelly, dirty, expensive, over-crowded public transport network? With its surly jobsworth staff? And, you know, the worst of the lot.... OTHER PEOPLE? In the summer?

Are you presently suffering from any mental health issues?

to be fair its well known there is a limited number of bike slots on trains now, doing london paris next week, and have had to book bike a slot on train, its free but ou need to pre book, if you didn't then your loss, also if you'd spoke like that to me you'd [b]NEVER[/b] get on the train again

I think you should drive to your work and get the bike out the boot round the corner before cycling the last few yards, it will save you the hassle of the train AND the tortuous cycle paths.

Are you presently suffering from any mental health issues?

Thanks for the Samaritans service guys, I do feel a bit of a Knob to be honest. I think the cycling to work will be mandatory since I may be banned from Northern Rail and that particular train manager has refused me access on a previous occasion so will most definitely refuse me in the future!

Decent troll, I'll give you 3 for the shouting, and 2 for the ludicrous journey length and an extra point for the dialogue. It was a bit like reading Hamlet.

6 out of 10.

Just an idea but maybe OP had already ridden lots of miles and normally takes the final 7 by train? Just saying like.

What TJ said, put bike on train safely out of the way then sit down and ignore the conducter/people unless they start to move your bike.

<Edit> but don't go utterly bat shit if they do try to kick you off for (legitimate) safety reasons.

Shocking. Fella was doing his job properly and gets verbally assaulted by some moron with a bike.

Deveron53 - Member
that particular train manager has refused me access on a previous occasion

Thanks for the Samaritans service guys, I do feel a bit of a Knob to be honest.

Fair play, I'd plan on riding in for a while.

Anyone know the ruling on overcrowding of trains? Pretty sure there's some H&S issues going on [i]every[/i] morning bolton-manchester trains, rail staff (and management) don't do anyting about that tho.

Which line was it, just out of interest? I've taken a lot of Northern Rail services over the last few years, with my bike, and never had any grief.

lazy bastard! mon the train guy!

MTFU D0NK!
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You sound like a rude and angry person. Try some yoga or some scented candles to help you find some inner calm.

Just had a look on [url= http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/server/show/nav.1335 ]here[/url] london centric but I assume it applies everywhere, no limit on number of people crammed on but

Commuter train operators are required to carry out passenger counts to demonstrate that adequate capacity is provided. This ensures that franchised operators properly address the issue of capacity requirements in peak periods.

If you'd not flicked the bird before you left he might have been stood on the platform thinking to himself 'What has become of my life? How did I become such a nesbit? Why can't I make my own judgements in life instead of being scared to deviate from the damm rulebook?!'

Now he probably feels justified in his actions and all warm inside with smugness.

Get a foldy bike. Never a problem taking them on the train.

Or cycle to work - better in every way.

It's an isolated incident for me. Every other train manager lets limitless bikes on! That particular train manager and another one who, in addition to sticking rigidly to the 2 bikes rule also attempts to short-change any passenger daring to buy a ticket with a tenner (caught him doing it more than once). They are known for it. Jobsworths, Blakeys without the moustaches. Power mad.
Yes, I have been known to get a little worked up, that's why I try and cycle away from the roads and the 2 ton steel weapons that people use to attempt to murder me while cycling.
The tortuous meant 'twisty', possibly need a thesaurus as well!

Dev, think of it as your gift! get into cycling in every day, or 4 days a week.
you'll feel better for it, save a fortune and with that distance not get too sweaty if taken easy!
within no time as you finish the day, instead of cramming into a wagon stressed out you'll be thinking zipping along in the fresh air thikning 'what was i doing'?..... 😀

7 miles of tortuous winding cycle path.

Sadly you may have caused a lot of problems now for real cyclists using trains for long distance travel.

Theres a chap on another forum, thats a guard on Northern Rail.

Oh and ever tried getting on a bus wuith a bike, it wont ever happen.

Same happened to me at Cardiff. I started driving instead.

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Do you have anger management problems? You come on here moaning about somebody doing their job and having to ride 7 miles to work. You sir are a prize prat!

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Why? For some naughty words? Pfffttt

Do what? Not following.

The train guard is responsible for the safety of the passenger on a train, and his decision is final, sadly being a naughty cyclist,you have now made it harder for the cyclists that use the train as a means of accesing more remote areas, not just a short commute, there are rules set out in the rule book, and obviously the guard was up holding them, dont like it, write to Northern Rail,the office of the rail regulator, and anyone else you can think of, but as Northern Rail are a private company, they take your money and its up to them to make the rules, as with everything in life.

Oh and most supermarkets deliver, some free, and never heard of mailorder cycle parts.

OK, reported 🙂

Maybe you'll get a toffee apple

Oooooo, a slice of carrot cake would be better. But I'll settle for the toffee thang.

moaning about somebody doing their job

Oooooo, a slice of carrot cake would be better. But I'll settle for the toffee thang.

project, it's weird how one word offends you but another doesn't.

"Tortuous" means twisty. "Torturous" means torture-like. Learn to read, people.

And to the OP, yes, probably just about everyone's handled it better than you. Chill out, get 7 miles of de-stressing in and stop being a walking PR disaster for cyclists.

No doubt with a large side order of GRASS

Bring it on baby.

Make sure you shut the door on the way out then tiger.

Deveroon,Just perhaps a passenger, who has bought a ticjket has complained about to many bikes taking up space,or delaying the departure of the train, like i said string a few words together and send it to northern rail,

Sorry, but if I did my job wrong, I'd get a bollocking. Wouldn't you?

Train 'manager' (aka, guard) = hero.
You = dick.

Deveron53 - Member
project, it's weird how one word offends you but another doesn't.

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I have no problem with swearing, but dont want to read it aimed a t a public servant, thats whuy i ***** it, also whats the other word.

Ps luving your work so far...........

Jobsworth conductor wouldn't let my dog on the train earlier... so I set it loose on him...

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I'm sure you have more chance of getting a hippo on a train as I doubt there is a rule that says "no hippos on trains". Whereas there is a rule about only allowing 2 bikes on a train.

I could do with a ban from stw, It would make me find something else to do when I'm bored.

Echo those sentiments. People don't even try not to be nesbits when they go online, they say what they would have said to that big guy in the pub if they had the nads. Not been here that long but it can be like nesbit-central sometimes.

Hippos rock.

(unless you are in a canoe and one takes a dislike to you)

Whats a nesbit???

That hippo has only 3 legs.....

Is it a scotch thing (a nesbit) ?

That [s]hippo[/s] dog has only 3 legs.....

that's why I was so angry.. the guy expected us to walk home.. he didn't even care that my dog's disabled..
jobsworth

Canoes rock...sometimes....

They're not Train Managers, trust me - I speak as a Northern Rail driver. A small minority of guards/conductors tend to be jobsworths (apart from in Leeds where the majority seem to be jobsworths. Sheffield are supposed to be a pain too but I don't have dealings with them in work). Liverpool and Manchester guards tend to be the most amenable but there are 'a few' who are a pain in the arse as there is in any walk of life. There is officially a two bikes policy on Northern but that is down to guard's discretion at peak times (and they're supposed to show discretion to allow more than two bikes at quiet times). The problem we've got at the moment is that the little sh1ts that go round by the dozen with BMXs at weekends and school/bank holidays are causing problems for 'real cyclists' on trains and I can see them stuffing it up for us all. Try to be diplomatic, not easy when faced with a little Hitler but try nonetheless.

But 7 miles? Come on...

In defence of Northern Rail I have spent the last 18 months commuting with my bike on NR trains and have found all of the staff to be really amenable and helpful. On the train I was on we often had four or five bikes and the staff even moved passengers off the flip up seats to accommodate us.

I found the attitude of the staff helpful and the one time I got refused on the train because it was rammed the Conductor was very apologetic.

With NR you don't have to book in advance, unlike Transpennine trains where you do.

did anyone notice the 7 miles you were vehemently refusing to ride on your bicycle! Must. Get. Train!

Oh and ever tried getting on a bus wuith a bike, it wont ever happen.

you can stick your bike on this bus http://www.gwynedd.gov.uk/gwy_doc.asp?doc=25961&Language=1 then ride down Snowdon!

I got a surly big dummy, the long cargo bike, with wideloader racks on a train.
I hid it behind some big wheely bins on the platform, waited, found bike carriage, quickly stuck it on without being seen.
Had it parked across the train. Did you know a big dummy is as long as a train is wide.
Guard finds me and is polite and cool.
No hassles despite me blocking the corridor.
Saucey looking girl in silver leopard skin leggings liked the bike too. She smelt of cannabis.

Rail Rage - anybody handled it worse, ever?

get up a little earlier, and bimble in to work all calm and collected.

At 14 - 15 mph avg, I think he did bimble

I've been using Southern (Yes I know, the ever comical train company) and dispite the lack of running a service (seperate issue), they have a train carriage and areas for bikes. I've never been told off even when I just put the bike in the doorways (which I'm not keen on doing because of the angst it causes other passengers) and I'm not the only one either. We have this nob who insists on ramming his bike into the small area where the luggage is supposed to go and he blocks up the corridor (he has aBrompton folded, but it still pokes out)

I've a foldie BTW and sometimes I do actually fold it..hahaha

Everyone seems to ignore the no cycles on trains to/from London (during peak time) on SouthWest trains, rail staff included.

Yep too true annoying even for those with bromptons/folding bikes seeing someone barge on with a proper biek when you have forked out for a folder... having said that for peak time folders make it so much easier - each time I take a full size bike on a train it reminds me how good the brompton is

But using the train for 7 miles - in summer ?

that is a bit poor isn't it

^ cool hippo though

Deveron53

I to have a similar temperment to you so I understand. I am on occasion ashamed of myself but I would not want to change.

As others have said, some train companies have different rules and even some stations will be more obtuse than others.

I recently travelled by East Coast to Manchester with a bike and the train driver couldn't have been more helpful, the nod, wink and "nice bike matey! I'll keep an eye on her for you" certainly helped.

Southeastern can be quite good, however even during the hours of 7pm + that you're allowed to take your bike on the train, idiot passengers insist in congregating at the bike bays and refuse to allow you to park your bike there (simply because the adjacent seats have more leg room). I've had two stand up rows with other passengers, the first bloke got told to shut up when he complained to a guard, the second was a bloke with an expensive Trek road bike who decided that my expensive mountain bike wouldn't fit next to his (it would). Better signage is needed.

Oh, and First Great Eastern are a bunch of obstructive jobsworths. I once told a guard there that I sincerely hoped that he went home to discover someone else in bed with his wife.

I reiterate: There are 2 train managers who are total assholes. Every other train manager is a saint.

End of story.

Deveron53 - Member
I reiterate: There are 2 train managers who are total assholes. Every other train manager is a saint.

End of story.

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They possibly have similar thoughts about you..,,,,,

i use the train to carry me and my bike for part of my commute every day and have never had any trouble with the train guards whatsoever, and thats on Northern Rail and TPE.
But as above 7miles ??? Really ! hang your head in shame