PSA: XT M785 Brakes
 

[Closed] PSA: XT M785 Brakes

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Anyone got the new M666 SLX's? is the topcap shiny and chromed like the XT's?


 
Posted : 08/09/2011 4:21 pm
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Anyone know if just swapping the levers over if you need to follow the guide posted earlier?

Push pistons out a bit, swap over, then push pistons back in?


 
Posted : 08/09/2011 5:12 pm
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I swapped and shortened mine, and didn't bother pushing the pistons out. Should be ok if you're careful. Takes a bit of force to undo nut at lever end, I couldn't do it in my hand and had to use a spare bar.

Thanks to dez for putting the photos up, very useful.


 
Posted : 08/09/2011 5:17 pm
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It'll mean you avoid the need to bleed 'em afterwards.


 
Posted : 08/09/2011 5:18 pm
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So it's better to do it just in case


 
Posted : 08/09/2011 5:42 pm
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Howcome, when you pull the hose out of the lever end, fluid doesn't just run out of the lever end and ruin it all?


 
Posted : 08/09/2011 5:45 pm
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Thats what I was wondering


 
Posted : 08/09/2011 5:52 pm
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air locked isn't it - you'd need a breather hole somewhere else for air to replace the fluid coming out...


 
Posted : 08/09/2011 6:35 pm
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Anyone got the new M666 SLX's? is the topcap shiny and chromed like the XT's?

satin grey, much better IMO


 
Posted : 08/09/2011 6:36 pm
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Oh OK CP, thanks. I think I'll put it off til tomorrow, it'll be nice to have them working properly for at least a few hours more. 😉


 
Posted : 08/09/2011 7:37 pm
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The SLX topcap is also more angular in design - less bulbous.


 
Posted : 08/09/2011 7:47 pm
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So when just swapping levers over is it better to extract the piston a bit in push back in or not?

Still 100% sure


 
Posted : 08/09/2011 8:08 pm
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Pushed the pistons out a bit, swapped the levers over and now the rear piston won't go back in!

Any suggestions?

Front was fine


 
Posted : 09/09/2011 2:29 pm
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Push the piston back in?


 
Posted : 09/09/2011 2:37 pm
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It won't budge!

On side of the rear went in but the other appears stuck


 
Posted : 09/09/2011 2:42 pm
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Oh! I'd just come online to say I've just done it and to tell you there's no need to push the pistons in. Seems like I was a bit too late.


 
Posted : 09/09/2011 2:45 pm
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Banana, the fluid is thicker than water & the hole is pretty small so its doesnt pi55 out.

Push piston back in with a plastic tyre lever, keep the pushing bit central on the piston, it may need some force but apply smoothly.

ps. PSA- Superstar sintered pads working great with my XTs.

Hard to not order a set of SLX's for my DH bike...


 
Posted : 09/09/2011 2:45 pm
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Sorry, I meant 'no need to push the pistons out' (to clowner).


 
Posted : 09/09/2011 3:02 pm
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Clowner - tyre lever, as suggested, or screwdriver against the back of the opposite pad to the piston you're trying to push in. (ie. so the pad surface is protected from the screwdriver)
You should be able to force it back.


 
Posted : 09/09/2011 3:09 pm
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Sorted now!

But what is up with the 'tightening plates' on the ice tech rotors?


 
Posted : 09/09/2011 3:36 pm
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Anyone heard from them as to when they are going to be back in stock? Ordered some yesterday and but nothing from them to say when they are expecting more


 
Posted : 09/09/2011 10:10 pm
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er..........so what does free stroke do? 😳


 
Posted : 10/09/2011 9:20 am
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Got some SLX's on route now! Arrived in the UK yesterday 😀

So, Monday night will be swappy time for me!


 
Posted : 10/09/2011 10:41 am
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Free stroke adjusts how much the pads move for a given distance of lever movement.

I.e. all the way out means that the brakes do not engage until further into the lever throw. all the way in means that as soon as you touch the brakes, the pads make contact. in practical terms it only matters if you like it very much as the former.


 
Posted : 10/09/2011 11:06 am
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anyone got a pic of the slx's they can post so i can see what they look like in the flesh


 
Posted : 12/09/2011 7:08 am
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How good is the reach adjust on these? Mainly on the SLX - can you adjust them so the bite is pretty close to the bar? If the freestroke is the only difference I'm tempted just to go for the SLX over the XT, but I do like to run my brakes quite close.


 
Posted : 12/09/2011 7:47 am
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I've ordered a set of the SLX's. Should be here sometime this week. Apparently the 'free stroke' screw on these is just a blanking screw... wondering if I can adapt them to work with 'free stroke'. Any of you XT users care to remove your 'free stroke' screw so I can compare what the difference is?


 
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Posted : 12/09/2011 9:38 am
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You don't get the finned pads though from rose. Though for the price of XT F+R you could almost have SLX + Ice-Tech rotors F+R.


 
Posted : 12/09/2011 10:53 am
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As regards freestroke adjustment, although the SLX has the screw, it doesn't have the mechanism in the lever blade to allow adjustment~ if you look at the images above, there is a slot in the XT lever, which will effectively alter the pivot position and thus bite point. The SLX doesn't have this, so there is one less thing to go wrong.


 
Posted : 12/09/2011 11:27 am
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I have seen these picks but from my experinec these things look completely different when you see them in the flesh. Anyone got them on their bike yet. Also is there any weigth difference?


 
Posted : 12/09/2011 11:37 am
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anyone know when these are going to be back in stock??


 
Posted : 12/09/2011 12:20 pm
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I got the XT's and they weigh 578gms, that's uncut hoses and including the brake pads and the 2 supplied bolts per caliper.


 
Posted : 12/09/2011 4:02 pm
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You don't get the finned pads though from rose.

I think there is a thread on here were the guy is saying Merlin didn't supply him with finned pads either, don't know the price paid tho. I get the impression they were in the picture, so he expected to get them, he calls them ice-tech pads tho, but I assume he means the finned pads, not certain tho (I don't think Ice-tech pads exist, do they?). HTH


 
Posted : 12/09/2011 4:06 pm
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Is that weight for both brakes or each?


 
Posted : 12/09/2011 7:05 pm
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for both I think, its impossible to weight more than 1000g both ; )


 
Posted : 12/09/2011 10:47 pm
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Yes, both brakes, both calipers, hoses uncut, pads, 2 bolts each (4 bolts) 🙂


 
Posted : 12/09/2011 10:51 pm
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9 pages long by heck...


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 6:08 am
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I've got the cheap and cheerful Deore M596 brakes that look similar and have an adjuster for the stroke, but you just need an allen key instead of a little finger wheel adjuster. £40 each end is buttons from Parkers International.
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Posted : 13/09/2011 6:40 am
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[i]I assume he means the finned pads, not certain tho (I don't think Ice-tech pads exist, do they?)[/i]

At [url= http://www.madison.co.uk/productinfo.aspx?vertical=Cycling&tier1=Braking+Components&tier2=Brake+Pads+-+Disc&catref=8J7+9801 ]£25 a pair[/url] for resin pads, they can keep em


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 8:09 am
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DebZ, £22.49 at Pedal-On, go on!!


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 9:41 am
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Thanks DezB for the fitting instructions!!

I now have lovely shiny-ness fitted 😀


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 11:32 am
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Anyone put more oil in without the oil funnel ?


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 1:56 pm
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Cancelled my order earlier this week as I called them and they told me they had no idea when they would be back in stock


 
Posted : 14/09/2011 5:30 pm
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SLX it is then, had been eyeing K18's for a while but get the impression these will be better, cheers OP


 
Posted : 14/09/2011 6:09 pm
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are rose the cheapest place for the 6 bolt ice-tech rotors?


 
Posted : 14/09/2011 6:13 pm
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I ordered the black ones and it says on the site 1 week back order but my account says shipped on back order and then the date 16/09/11 not sure what's going on?


 
Posted : 15/09/2011 11:38 am
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Give them an email, sounds like they have processed your order and will ship as soon as stock is in.


 
Posted : 15/09/2011 11:49 am
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Didn't realise, until I fiddled about (then read the instructions), you can take out old pads and load new pads (from the top) without having to take the wheel off, brilliant.


 
Posted : 15/09/2011 1:53 pm
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Just like old shimano ones then ! (Rolls eyes)


 
Posted : 15/09/2011 2:39 pm
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😳 I've had two sets of xt shimano brakes over 7 years, never realised, I've always put them in from the other direction, after taking the wheel off.


 
Posted : 15/09/2011 6:14 pm
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Anyone have trouble with their hope floating rotors rubbing on the caliper slightly?


 
Posted : 17/09/2011 4:49 pm
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when you like them on Facebook, where does the voucher go to?


 
Posted : 19/09/2011 8:53 am
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bump?


 
Posted : 19/09/2011 3:42 pm
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I've used my voucher twice. makes cheap items very cheap!


 
Posted : 19/09/2011 3:43 pm
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As dirty rider has asked, would like to order but unsure about the voucher, I have the code ready to use


 
Posted : 19/09/2011 4:23 pm
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I had problems with the Facebook voucher so brought slx and rt76 discs without discout, fitted but yet to have my first ride.

Excellent price & service, can't go wrong!


 
Posted : 19/09/2011 10:00 pm
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I had problems with my voucher too so I ordered anyway and put sent them an email to say the app wasn't working. They emailed back to say try again and the app worked but when I sent them the code it had been used a week before so I didn't get it.
I was ordering XT trail pedals not the brakes so without the discount the price wasn't so good. 😥 Did get a nice mug though


 
Posted : 19/09/2011 10:12 pm
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my brakes are now saying 'The goods are currently prepared for shipping.'
anyone any idea how long shipping normally takes?
off to Scotland at the weekend and would love to test them out there.
cheers


 
Posted : 20/09/2011 7:13 am
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Hi folks. Just ordered a set of black m785 xt brakes (in stock again now). Paid for them with paypal and somehow have ony paid £105 rather than £135. Not sure if its to do with currency conversion. Anyway give it a go. Seems to work out cheaper - BARGAIN!!!


 
Posted : 20/09/2011 11:52 am
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^ Have you had an email from Rose to confirm the order? I think it might be a glitch with their website, as it's trying to bill you €118. When you check your order history there's no record of it being placed.


 
Posted : 20/09/2011 12:44 pm
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Ended up going fot the XT's last week, just had an email saying they'd been shippeed 8)


 
Posted : 20/09/2011 12:55 pm
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Got a spare rt76 180mm disc if anyone needs one


 
Posted : 20/09/2011 1:17 pm
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I contacted them and they said the order has gone through ok. The order didn't appear on my account yesterday but has today and i have deffinitely only paid £105 through paypal. My account says the order is being prepared for shipping today

Oli


 
Posted : 20/09/2011 6:15 pm
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deffo something happening with the currency conversion

just paid £113 for 2x ice-tec 6 bolt rotors and a pair of M985 trail pedals

cheap cheap

XTR Trail brakes come out at £222 quid or so, i paid £277 last month


 
Posted : 21/09/2011 4:19 pm
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Just ordered a set of black m785 xt brakes (in stock again now). Paid for them with paypal and somehow have ony paid £105 rather than £135.

Me too. 😀


 
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Always keen to point out a good deal


 
Posted : 21/09/2011 8:06 pm
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I ordered some too (thanks obg) and was also charged £105 from Paypal. Order appeared on Rose bikes account the next day, after I'd contacted them to ask where it was. Email this morning from customer services said they'd be dispatched tomorrow. Hopefully before too many people take advantage and they realise their mistake...


 
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Yup, looks like things are even cheaper than before! I'd been holding off buying the xt brakes, partly because I couldnt decide what colour I wanted.

Just picked up a set of xtr m988 trail brakes with finned pads for £222 delivered, bargain!


 
Posted : 21/09/2011 11:10 pm
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i have liked their facebook page - where do i get the discount code?


 
Posted : 22/09/2011 6:01 am
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Are these brakes still available?

Can't see any in stock.. 😐


 
Posted : 22/09/2011 8:13 am
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i like them on face book -w here do i get the voucher?


 
Posted : 22/09/2011 8:42 am
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Mine (black) have just arrived. No mug or bowl but a beer mat...

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Posted : 22/09/2011 12:58 pm
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Anyone know how to bleed these? do i need the funnel thing? Re changing hoses over and shortening them - is it a case of pump pistons out a bit, undo bolts and swap over, then push pistons back in?


 
Posted : 25/09/2011 5:52 pm
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Anyone up for selling a pair. Maybe you got caught up in the frenzy and dont actually need them? 😉

Send me an email @ worldeliteAThotmailDOTcom


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 10:54 am
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cruzheckler, after reading the shimano docs I think the bleed funnel is nice to have but you can do it without, but the funell shouddl help get the last bubbles out, so may be a bit squishy if you haveno funnel. Not messed with mine yet since shortening hoses, back is def. squishier than front, but both are like dropping a big anchor.


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 10:59 am
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Ok so I got these, and theyre great but I must've fluffed getting the seal right on the front as when I turn the bike upside down I lose fluid and then the front stops working. So I'll try again but need more fluid, do I need that yellow hopper or can they be bled just using a bottle?


 
Posted : 29/09/2011 7:26 pm
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So Rose are now out of stock. Can anyone recommend anywhere else I can get these brakes without paying twice the Rosebikes price?


 
Posted : 06/10/2011 9:24 pm
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Superfical
If you mean the XT brakes, the Black version (as pictured) are still available 22.56pm 06/10/2011. Go back to each brake, front and back, click on colour, change to black (from silver), status changes to available.

They are excellent, black looks good, there are pics of the black version in the thread somewhere, I posted a pic of mine for sure. The black bits are the levers and part of the body, the reservoir cap is still silver/chrome.

Good Luck


 
Posted : 06/10/2011 10:02 pm
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I want the black ones anyway, but Rose don't have them in stock. I emailed them 19th Sept and they confirmed that they had no more front brakes in either colour (at that time they still had rear brakes in stock), and wouldn't be getting any more stock until early 2012.

Now it just says 'article in 1 week available'. Underneath it says 'article available in biketown' which refers to their physical shop but I don't think you can order them.


 
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