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B, the police have shown they are more than happy to turn up to other stuff that should be low down on lists
To be fair, apparently SYP did a 'house to house' after the recent Hillsborough break ins, whereas previously they have deemed theft of high value mountain bikes not worthy of a visit.
I would like to think that contacting the office of Chief Constable Stephen Watson et al can only help in keeping the pressure on and emphasise the escalating situation regarding Mountain Bike Theft in West Sheffield.
Any recommendations for a chain and padlock
Get the most expensive and thickest chain you can afford and get multiple chains and locks. Expect to pay >30% of the cost of your bike.
With all due respect, I’d imagine bike thefts are way down a very long list of issues for both Police and Parliamentarians.
Well that depends doesn't it - their list is governed by what their electorate are worried about.
If everybody who had their bike nicked in Sheffield wrote to their MP about it, I suspect it might well make it up the list of things they would pretend to do something about.
Where does all this high end, targeted stuff end up? Is it time second hand bike part sales were banned, or limited to licensed dealers? Wonder what proportion of s/h bike things are hot.
If everybody who had their bike nicked in Sheffield wrote to their MP about it
Also to the police commissioner. Considering that the turnout for them is sod all they might pay attention to any semi cohesive group saying they want action.
Where does all this high end, targeted stuff end up? Is it time second hand bike part sales were banned, or limited to licensed dealers? Wonder what proportion of s/h bike things are hot.
Good question - I've spent ages scouring the usual 2nd hand sites to no avail.
Whilst I'm sure that a fair amount of the 2nd Hand Mountain Bike Market is 'hot' my thinking about the recent West Sheffield spate of thefts is that this is more in line with organised crime ...
Whilst I'm not for one minute suggesting that this is connected, don't be under any illusion that Sheffield's leafy suburbs don't harbour organised criminals - only a couple of months ago, a group were convicted of [inter alia] possesion of:
one Skorpion sub machine pistol, six Makarov semi-automatic pistols, one Tokarev semi-automatic pistol (loaded), 1458 round of ammunition, seven sound moderators (silencers) and 19 magazines, one-and-a-half kilograms of cocaine, 107 wraps of heroin, two kilograms of benzocaine and 17.5 kilograms of boric acid, which are used as adulterants when preparing wholesale quantities of Class A drugs
Wasn't there something about a company tracking down a warehouse full of bikes in Morocco?
I am sure that the individual coppers like thorpie aren’t responsible for the strange priorities that syp seem to have at the moment, but it doesn’t take a genius to work out that the response to the tree protesters is way out of hand, and the fact that private security and police are involved at all shows a monumental failure by the councillors.
Anyway back on topic a couple of years years ago I was woken by someone removing the roof from my shed (in S10). No “high end bikes in there just a few low range and a couple of very old mid range bikes.
I upped my security but fortunately no repeat attempts made.
I upped my security but fortunately no repeat attempts made
I upped my security ... and they came back ... thankfully the alarm deterred them ... for now at least.
Oh and btw - these ***ts aren't bothered by canine deterrents either - they seemingly strike early evening when there is still an awful lot of background neighbourhood noise etc, so dogs don't get so twitchy as they might with noises in the early hours of the morning.
Life in a collapsed society is never going to be pleasant and is about to get a whole lot worse.Crime being a crude form of wealth distribution in a cruelly unequal country.Britain's paramilitary response squads can barely cope.You voted Thatcher and the jungle is what you've got.Dont moan,soak it up.
The police don't seem to take it all that seriously - they were slightly more interested after we were broken into when they realised the value of the bikes that had been stolen.
I have no idea where stolen bikes end up - mine vanished and some would be pretty easy to spot like my Demo 8 painted in Ford asbo orange with wite 888's. Nothing appeared on any of the fourms or eBay.
Since the break in, we've upped security - new garage doors, alarm, ground anchor and big old locks. It won't stop them but will hopefully make it harder than it was.
I have no idea where stolen bikes end up – mine vanished and some would be pretty easy to spot like my Demo 8 painted in Ford asbo orange with wite 888’s. Nothing appeared on any of the fourms or eBay.
Was this in Sheffield? Because I don't want to get your hopes up but I saw a bike exactly like that, in one piece, in the back of a pickup truck outside my work last week.
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Any recommendations for a chain and padlock to put through it?
Almax chains are very good...
I hate getting into arguments about police matters but I do feel protective of the service I work for. Regards the tree felling and the police operation this is usually during the day and is made up of volunteers on weekly leave working overtime. It has no effect on the response teams patrolling on afternoon and night shifts, when most burglaries happen, so blaming resources being used elsewhere does not wash I’m afraid. Regards police priorities these are based on a number of things, threat and risk to people and yes, current trends. If there is a big spike in burglaries then that area will usually get some attention. SYPs priority crime team have had numerous successful prosecutions against a fair few burglars recently and some have been given decent prison time, just follow SYP on social media for news of such things. As for someone like me working on a response team, it is difficult to go and patrol a particular area these days when there are so few of us, usually because we are attending to 999 calls most of the time. Added to that, vulnerable missing persons and people in mental health crisis take up a massive chunk of our time. It’s a well known issue and we are the fall back for all other services. Also it is actually pretty difficult to patrol places like Hillsborough and Crookes, very compact and pretty easy to duck and dive upon hearing a noisy diesel beat car approaching in the dead of the night. We try our best but it’s not easy, I have had a bike stolen from my garage so I can sympathise, I also know how difficult it is for the police to prevent crimes like burglary.
I think the elephant in the room thorpie is the collapsed state of our society.I,m old enough to remember a civilised society.This certainly is nit one.
Exactly.
For anyone not up on the current Sheffield situation, SYP are sending 30 odd coppers to stand around all day as private security that looks the other way while SIA bouncers assault old people and break limbs of others who are trying to prevent our street trees being cut down for profit. Anyone that is being arrested currently is being charged with ‘obstruction of the highway’ which is a civil matter with a peppercorn fine. They’re also engaging in covert and overt surveillance plus social media surveillance of said protestors.
They’ve got plenty of manpower for this. So why don’t they give a toss about hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of bikes being pinched? To be completely fair to them, they don’t seem interested in prosecuting Councillors for driving offences either, so it’s not like they’re just ignoring bike thefts.
Almax chains are very good…
They might withstand bolt-croppers but not the portable angle-grinders which will cut through a link in a couple of minutes
Best bet is to get 2+ big chains ... make it as hard for them as possible including depleting the angle-grinder batteries.
If there is a big spike in burglaries then that area will usually get some attention.
I have been corresponding with various senior figures within SYP for the past few months to try to get some focus on the recent increase in mountain bike theft in the West of Sheffield ... it is only recently that they have actually included such thefts on their Social Media feeds - previously they were completely ignored.
Also it is actually pretty difficult to patrol places like Hillsborough and Crookes, very compact and pretty easy to duck and dive upon hearing a noisy diesel beat car approaching in the dead of the night
As mentioned earlier, a fair proportion of these thefts actually occur in the early evening during the dark winter months rather than the 'dead of night'. They aren't phased by the fact that people are in their homes with the lights on, cooking, watching TV etc ... so I doubt they'd be too bothered by a Police van driving past.
Not in Sheffield but I've had 4 attempted break ins in the last 18 months. Just fitted an extra lock to the shed door, mostly to make it harder for them to break the door which has also been reinforced on the inside. Last time they broke part of the door but scarpered when the alarm went off. D lock and hefty chain and padlock round the bikes which will at least slow them down whilst the alarm is ringing in their ears. If we're away we put bikes in the house. My bikes are old and not worth much, so I don't I'm being targeted by people who know much about bikes, those types are targeting the Tweed Valley.