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Dear all,
I have change the air shaft in my Pike - all well and good. I also though that as they hadn’t been done in 2.5 years I may as well change the foam seals (they needed it) and the the top wiper seals.
Does anyone have a handy tip on how to remove them as the seem to be very, very solidly in place....
I would leave them - but they are now considerably less that perfect?
No You tube video shows how to remove - they all skip that stage , or just say lever out with a ring spanner.
That really doesnt work ...
Ideas?
Large flat blade screw driver?
IIRC when you come to fit the new ones, if you have the Hope Pro2 Evo hub tools, one of those is exactly the right size for pressing the seal back in.
Think I used a pick to remove mine....don't have to worry about damaging them. Putting the new ones in potentially trickier and you could buy an expensive press tool to do it, but in my experience I could just push in with fingers.
Carefully lever them out, I use a Pedros DH tyre lever
Loco always used to use the jaw of a large open ended spanner, worked very well.
I ripped them then used a flat blade screw driver on the rest ... it took an immense amount of force ...
Wow
I assume they have to be fitted in “dry”?
Put a bit of electrical tape over the end of the spanner to protect the forks and leaver them out, if you can’t do the same with a tyre lever.
open ended spanner works best imo
Getting them out I seem to remember quite a lot of cursing & swearing with a scredriver.
Getting the new ones in - there is a plastic pipe diameter that fits just over them if my memory serves me correctly - I suppose it depends on the size of the fork legs. A length of that pipe, with a block of wood over the top & a wooden mallet had my new ones in....
Good post here with some suggestions:
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/rockshox-seal-wiper-installation-tools/
but to summarise:
socket & rubber mallet
PVC pipe
Just use your thumbs
Freeze the seals before doing it & they pop right in...
IIRC when you come to fit the new ones, if you have the Hope Pro2 Evo hub tools, one of those is exactly the right size for pressing the seal back in.
I wished I'd thought of this last week when I did mine, they did push back in via thumbs though.
With regards to taking them out, oh my goodness, still having cold sweats thinking about it. I didn't have any special tools so a screw driver and a rag to cover the fork as I used it as a leaver. The force required to get the wiper seals out.....i was unsure at one point whether the seal would come out before the screwdriver snapped.
My only advice, is to be confident with the pressure, the seal will pop out but you need a lot of force through the screwdriver. Add pressure slowly through the driver and they'll pop eventually. Make sure you protect the fork with the rag.
Recently done mine with a spanner and the new one's just pushed in without to much force.
Flat screw driver back to front of fork and POP
https://www.bikeinn.com/bike/unior-fork-seal-driver-tool/137499893/p?utm_source=google_products&utm_medium=merchant&id_producte=10445388&country=uk&&lid=92700025220977313&ds_s_kwgid=58700000333452853&ds_e_product_group_id=294680686006&ds_e_product_store_id=&ds_e_ad_type=pla_with_promotion&ds_s_inventory_feed_id=97700000001001592&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8_ag3Nbb6AIVRuN3Ch1xHQ1KEAQYASABEgJWLfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
I pop them out with a long flat head screwdriver. I always put the seals in the freezer for a couple of hours first, then you can push them in with your thumbs. They soon warm up.
Will try freezing next time - sounds like a good route. Getting the top section back into the lower legs was also a PITA. They kept folding over - but taking the springs off was a good tip I picked up.
The Hope Evo tool is slightly too big - but sort of works
Why does freezing work ? They are plastic - i can understand it working with alloy / metal- so it contracts the metal spring?
Everything contracts when it's cold, just by different amounts, depending on the material.
Everything apart from wood which does the opposite, oh and nipples.