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Pedal washers with SLX 12 speed cranks?

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I got the OE bagged cranks a few weeks ago for a build. I can't remember them coming with pedal washers, or would I have lost them? Or are they just not needed or not included?

My NX cranks came with them.

Should I fit some to the SLX cranks? (Time MX4 pedals).

Thanks.


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 5:10 pm
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I think that's a sram thing... for some reason...


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 5:18 pm
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Pedal washers only really required where you have spanner flats on the pedal spindle that face the crank - as Time pedals generally have a round spindle, not really needed. 


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 5:21 pm
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Thank you so much.


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 5:24 pm
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I find that adding washer help to reduce damage and stops the pedal spindle 'sticking' to the cranks.


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 7:35 pm
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Straight in the bin every time.


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 7:49 pm
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I find that adding washer help to reduce damage and stops the pedal spindle ‘sticking’ to the cranks

I've had washers, I've had no washers (usually). Never had a stuck pedal. I do grease the threads though


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 7:53 pm
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I don't think modern Shimano cranks come with them, some older ones did.


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 8:30 pm
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I think I asked this a while back because a set of Octalink cranks (that use a cartridge bb) came with some washers. I was told they were bb washers not for pedals!


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 8:33 pm
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10 speed slx used to come with them, or at least the double with bash guard did but my latest 12 speed single ring slx didn't.

I personally prefer to use them as pedals can start to dig into soft alloy crank arms


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 8:41 pm
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Once you've had a pedal you can't get off a crank arm you'll always use pedal washers...


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 9:26 pm
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I fit them to all of mine after having to cut a pedal out of a mates crank 20 years ago.... A few quid on ebay for a box of 20, why wouldn't you use them? 


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 10:00 pm
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why wouldn’t you use them? 

Because in 40+ years of doing my own bike maintenance

 Never had a stuck pedal. I do grease the threads though

I've had stiff ones, never stuck though


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 10:10 pm
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Once you’ve had a pedal you can’t get off a crank arm you’ll always use pedal washers

Why would a washer make a difference?  Its the threads that seize from a lack of your favourite assembly lube and over tightening 

Ive never had a stuck pedal on anything i assemble.  Most of the pedals i have had have no washers anyway.  Copaslip for the win.


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 10:16 pm
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why wouldn’t you use them?

Because I've built or repaired literally thousands of bikes and I've never had a pedal get stuck, or had to cut one off.

Not one that was caused by the lack of a tiny washer anyway.


 
Posted : 08/11/2023 10:34 pm
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Thanks again. I put the pedals on and for the first time of my life checked the recommended torque by both Shimano and Time.

35nm!

That sounds mad.

So I tightened by feel as I have been doing for 35 years with Time Atac pedals.

And then I checked and it was way under 10nm. No chance I am going anywhere near even 10nm, it would be a bugger to take off. I never had a loose pedal. Just luck?


 
Posted : 10/11/2023 8:23 pm
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pedals self tighten. I do them up to way under 35nm, never had one come loose. there is no force to loosen themunless the bearings seize. 10 nm sounds about right to me but I don't use a torque wrench.


 
Posted : 10/11/2023 9:40 pm
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10 nm sounds about right to me but I don’t use a torque wrench

Likewise, you just get a feel for it.

Apart from the carbon bars I've just fitted, but even using a torque wrench I knew it was thereabouts to where I would have gone anyway, so didn't really need to bother


 
Posted : 10/11/2023 10:20 pm
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I honestly don't think ive ever used pedal washers. Nor have I had a stuck pedal, or a pedal coming loose. And I don't own a torque wrench

Bit of lube on the threads, spin them up tight then a nip with spanner or hex. Job jobbled


 
Posted : 10/11/2023 10:43 pm
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