So what are you looking forward to?
the filing cabinet of the future.
More over-priced bikes (but that applies to every bike company)
nothing
Lunch
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Must be the least exciting launch of any manufacturer. Spec changes and a slight adjustment of the single pivot placement if we're lucky!
More over-priced bikes (but that applies to every bike company)
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I just got my 2017 Five yesterday, no looking at new bikes for a long time for me.
I honestly dont know why people roll out the ugly, expensive thing. All bikes are overly expensive really, and my new bike in Atomic Orange is a thing of complete beauty.
I hope they bring back gold sparkly bikes. 8)
I'm looking forward to them changing from Orange bikes to Peach, or maybe Salmon Pink.
I find the colour too harsh.
Spec changes and a slight adjustment of the single pivot placement if we're lucky!
ooohhh i do love when the 'improve' the pivot location!
A Vit-T hardtail, but in 29er guise?
Not going to happen though sadly...
Carbon 4-bar frame with multi-link anti-dive forks and a full wireless gear and brake system.
Or maybe just another trend-following tweak to an ugly ally box and a few tubes using bog-standard components from the usual suppliers in a Brexit-inspired, limited-edition colorway
A Vit-T hardtail, but in 29er guise?
*raises eyebrow*
I heard they were announcing a carbon 5 (27.5 and 29er).
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Oh come on grumps who doesn't want this for £8k 😛
External hose routing on the downtube, I don't really like the internal arrangement on my 2017 Five
Forward facing seat clamp
Some sort of maxle stealth rear axle thing rather than a QR
my new bike in Atomic Orange is a thing of complete Beauty
I think we'll be the judge of that.....
An over-priced, under-specced gravel/adventure bike for the fanbois (soon to be available on the Classifieds).
I know its not cool to enjoy new bike launches, but here goes.
Personally the range looks pretty damn good at the moment so struggling to see what will be shown that will wow, I suspect the headline act will be the EPO.
An over-priced, under-specced gravel/adventure bike for the fanbois (soon to be available on the Classifieds).
Has someone been bullying you?
Forward facing seat clamp
why isnt this standard?
longer top tube, shorter stem, slacker head angle and less offset on the fork but basically the same overpriced filing cabinet that you've seen for the last god knows how many years.
2017 Five S without dropper currently under £2k online, compare that to a Surly Krampus rigid, steel, heavy, average components for £1700 and suddenly the Orange looks an absolute bargain.
Funny that despite [i]only[/i] being single-pivot and alu, there's still 3 Orange bikes in the Dirt 100 *jumps for cover*
2017 Five S without dropper currently under £2k online, compare that to a Surly Krampus rigid, steel, heavy, average components for £1700 and suddenly the Orange looks an absolute bargain.
Yes when it gets to sales time, oranges appear more 'affordable' esp when compared against a completely different style of bike!
Jeez the naysayers here are boring.
Jeez the naysayers here are boring.
How VERY dare you...ill have you know i have never ridden one!!! 👿 😆
Don't Orange just produce bikes that people either buy or not? Why the dislike? Have they done something specific to some of you in the past?
Orange four I wouldn't mind, seems a simply 2 bearing low maintenance UK weather fuss suspension bike.
I think they're very good value bikes if you aren't a serial bike swapper and keep them 3-5 years. The reliability of them over that time has been utterly superb for me. I've done 3700km on an Alpine in 2.5 years and 2700km on a Five in 2 years. I haven't ridden the Five off-road since April, just the Alpine 3 times a week because it's just more fun and awesome both up and down.
Hoping to see new spec packs on the Stage 6 for 2018 and something about 29er offset fork changes. We'll see. Hoping for slacker head angles.
Zero - enjoy it. Done 6 hours in the Pennines on mine today and it was flipping ace. Just like it was on the Lakes Four Passes a fortnight ago. A proper grin machine - versatile, fun, reliable.
So, errr, what did they launch? Have they joined us in the 20th century and used carbon yet?
So, errr, what did they launch? Have they joined us in the 20th century and used carbon yet?
Are you mad?? You can't weld carbon in Alifax! (Or anywhere else AFAIK)
I moved away from Orange 3 months ago but still will always like them , even more so with the new p7 coming in 29 and 27.5+ form..
Oh and they would follow this up with neon yellow again for 2018 !
I will say I do love an Orange thread I love the hate it brings
what did you change from/to? Interested to hear your thoughts.
I moved back to a Whyte the 160rs ,mainly ive had Whytes before and they like My Fives just worked well.
I was going to buy a new five but the build cost was close to £4.5k and hearing a few issues with there 2015-2017 frames I decided to look at the G160rs and Works , the Rs 160 ticked all the right boxes and at £2900 (cash discount ) was a no brainer eagle XO and Lyriks.
The 160 climbs better than any of my Oranges less bob almost hardtail like and because its so long the downs are just as confidence inspiring. A group of us have just returned back from 5 days in the Lakes, myself on the 160 , two lads on new Alpine 6s a five and a four, all very good riders a couple better than me and more experienced , Most climbs I was waiting at the top and pushing them down the downs ,the Whyte is ace and a superb bike and im happy I bought it but and here is the big but !
If a stage 6 rs was at the same price I would have been back at Holywell green like a flash ..I do think pricing is getting silly across the board.
But then again the 2018 Whytes are just as nice have you seen the 130rsc £5700 < really !
Am I missing something? What new bikes! Or am I being trolled?
Thanks Stevedoc
Prices are getting silly, pushing me and partner more towards direct sales only brands, but i can't bring myself to pay a load of money (to me anyway) for a bike from Europe in a box i haven't ridden.
@andyg1966 its the EPO
Not sure why people are so negative about Orange?
I've never owned one but many people love single pivot sussers so there is a market for them.
Pays your money and makes your choice surely? 🙂
Not sure why people are so negative about Orange?
It's not just Orange. See also,
Giant - So boring, nothing good there! (Ignoring all the awesome bikes and value for money)
Specialized - What a dreadful corporate monster! (Ignoring all the awesome bikes and innovation)
Trek - I just hate them! (Ignoring all the cleverness and quality builds)
Etc, etc, etc.
What do orange offer then flashy?
CaptainFlashheart
It's not just Orange. See also,Giant - So boring, nothing good there! (Ignoring all the awesome bikes and value for money)
Specialized - What a dreadful corporate monster! (Ignoring all the awesome bikes and innovation)
Trek - I just hate them! (Ignoring all the cleverness and quality builds)Etc, etc, etc
Yeah, good point actually!
I'm probably a bit guilty of some unfounded "prejudice" concerning one or two of the above brands now I think of it.
How are Orange in the same bracket as Specialized, Giant or Trek? They couldn't be more different from a company perspective.
Well, they make bikes don't they? 🙄
Loved my 5, best bike I ever owned.
The specialized I've had though... awful things.
Pricing on Orange is nuts though, 6k for a bike with ARC rims?? They're following the same model as Santa Cruz!
Is the p7 coming out as a 29 as suggested above? I would bite your hand off.
From pedalabikeaway's instagram report its all about the EPO.
Cant find a way to link to the picture 😳
A 29er P7?
I hope that's true.
I know I've been taking the piss a bit on this thread, but what have they actually launched? Has there been one? The website seems pretty bereft of details?
In keeping with the piss take, and since no one has yet taken the plunge..
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Unfortunately BB you were beaten to your hilariously original joke by the first reply to the OP....
Yerbut, no pics.
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Tangerines?
Yeah, launching a kids bike.
Stop taking the pith you lot.
I think if half you lot had a decent ride on a 2017 orange you might all of a sudden need to stop pretending how shit a bike is you haven't tried.
I couldn't be happier with my five.
Is a good laugh having a read of all this negativity though.
I was in the market for a new bike.
Orange 4 was top of my list .
The reasons I spent my money elsewhere are...lack of bottle mount, cost and weight.
Really it was mainly the bottle mount.
Haters gonna hate! I replaced my 2010 Five with a 2017 Five - nothing else ticked all the boxes. Both purchases were frame only, although the full builds seem pretty good value to me too. Very few brands offer as many options to custom spec the build too (although some of the upgrade prices are a little questionable).
I'm not a hater, I remember Orange back when Lester was involved. Put it simply, it's the only Brand that have something directly attributed to them that we can take the piss out of.
I think the Five and the Clockwork (original) should be in the Design Museum. Pure a design and function you'd be hard to find.
The problem with Orange is not their bikes, its the overly vocal minority of owners.
People who don't like Giant, don't like Giant
People who don't like Specialized, don't like Specialized
People who don't like Cannondale, don't like Cannondale
People who don't like Orange are wrong, jealous, poor, skill-less and too many Orange owners are too eager to tell you exactly that.
Generalisers gonna generalise.
Love my 5, wouldn't pay full whack on a new one, lottery wins aside.
They do seem to split opinion though.
Yesterday we paid a little visit to Orange Bikes to see their 2018 bikes. 2018 is their 30th year of building great British bikes, and they have some really cool stuff that we can't tell you about yet... What we can tell you is that the Alpine 6 E is easily the best e-bike we've ever ridden. Yes the factory spec is expensive (cheaper spec options available next year) but it's the 1st one to be as good or better than a. Enduro bike downhill as well as up. We may even get a demo one if I think I can keep my staff off riding it!
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The problem with Orange is not their bikes, its the overly vocal minority of owners.
Apple owners seem to be the same. Must be a fruit thing.
I still like the EPO and it would be a tough choice between that and the new LEVO
The problem with Orange is not their bikes, its the overly vocal minority of owners.People who don't like Giant, don't like Giant
People who don't like Specialized, don't like Specialized
People who don't like Cannondale, don't like Cannondale
People who don't like Orange are wrong, jealous, poor, skill-less and too many Orange owners are too eager to tell you exactly that.
Chicken and egg though in't it. All the brands above can be discussed sensibly but as soon as a Orange discussion pops up you get the usual 'hilarious' quips that are designed to provoke a reaction. They do, then people like you accuse us owners of blah, blah, blah.