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Oh, going back to headtubes... Can you not fit a 1.5 steerer into a 44mm head-tube? That opens up a couple more choices. Does the Mega come in size tiny?
On the other hand master the brake jack on a single pivot and it's your friend.
Nice way of dropping the center of gravity in a corner.
Barrel had his Stab modified so the floating brake arm could be used to increase brake jack to give better cornering
I reckon a lot of people don't 'get' single pivot Oranges. They ride them once or twice and say they're not plush, but they're missing a trick. If you ask me they're designed to be ridden fast, and when you let the back brake off and hit rough stuff hard, they're super smooth (or at least, smooth enough) if the shock's set right. Besides which, there's a whole lot more to a decent FS frame than just plushness.
mikewsmith - MemberOn the other hand master the brake jack on a single pivot and it's your friend.
On fence- a mate of mine says this. But then he [i]used[/i] to say "there's no such thing as brake jack". And then he sold his Orange and said "Man, this new bike's awesome, no brake jack" 😉
just had a look at the 2013 range and there is no P7? the only hardtails are the Diva, Crush and Clockwork.
although the Clockwork is only £899....hmmmm 29" hardtail from orange for cycle to work, sounds like a winner.
Dude, no-one is going to make 1.5" forks or head-tubes ever again
You mean, apart from Cannondale, no-one is going to make 1.5" head tubes ever again?
Andy
Talking of Cannondale - would a small Prophet fit her? I have a frame sitting in the shed that I've been meaning to get sold for a while now.
please let her have a go on a five if she hasn't already, I wanted one for years and when I went to buy it I rented one to be sure and hated it, its all personal nothing to do with headtubes and paint jobs, I got a cheap used heckler and loved it and you'd think they would be the very similar
loved brake jack too once I learned to brake in bunches rather than ride them as it smoothed out the trail as it skipped across the top of everything
It's good (ie can engage it) on the heckler meant to be different on the bullet.
I reckon a lot of people don't 'get' single pivot Oranges. They ride them once or twice and say they're not plush, but they're missing a trick. If you ask me they're designed to be ridden fast, and when you let the back brake off and hit rough stuff hard, they're super smooth
I rode it hard - very hard, Alpine still not competing with a Nomad or Blur LT for the same money.
@mikewsmith
Never seen you ride a bike hard, never mind VERY HARD on a tue night 8)
Weird that. I've seen tons of folk riding Alpines, Fives and Patriots very hard on very rough trails in the Alps and Lakes, and they seem very happy. Kinda ties in with Dirt's verdict on Alpines and Fives too. Still, I guess Keswiki's point highlights the problem with comparisons like this.
Err, I was refering to mikewsmith not the bikes he rides 😀
The only thing I have to say RE 2013 Oranges (and this is as a 2012 Five owner) is - HOW MUCH??? The prices have gone up even more. When most company's prices are going down.
Weird that. I've seen tons of folk riding Alpines, Fives and Patriots very hard on very rough trails in the Alps and Lakes, and they seem very happy. Kinda ties in with Dirt's verdict on Alpines and Fives too. Still, I guess Keswiki's point highlights the problem with comparisons like this.
Conversely you'll see loads of Nomads and Blurs being ridden "very hard" in the Surrey Hills and South Downs 😛
although the Clockwork is only £899
That's the first Orange hardtail I've seen that doesn't look 'right'. It must be the clown wheels.
Conversely you'll see loads of Nomads and Blurs being ridden "very hard" in the Surrey Hills and South Downs
Polls.
I got an Orange 5 to irritate Cannondale owners, job done.
Get her a fatty, job done
Bikescene are doing a stumpjumper evo frame in small for 699.99 I replaced my five frame with one of these and it's great.
Err, I was refering to mikewsmith not the bikes he rides
Now trying to work out who Keswicki is.....
Oranges, Blurs & Nomads were ridden on demo out of Biketreks so ridden like it's someone elses!