[Closed] OneUp EDC Tool

Aye the dedicated tool puts me off but it does look pretty clever

I think the tool that goes on your bb axle look a bit neater and no need to muck about threading stuff.

Manufacture A - spend millions in FEA testing to make the lightest strongest steerer tube possible and adds a long warranty into the package

Manufacture B - spends thousands on new must have ENDURO cool as f#ck product. Which invalidates manufacture A warranty, development time and effort and cuts threads into the most important safety critical part of the whole bike.

World gone mad, is it the early 90s again and we're going to drill holes in our seat posts and stems again!

I like the cool factor of these and the one that goes into the crank set and the SWAT boxes etc, not sure it would do much for me though, my bike doesn't have a bottle mount but even if it did I'd still want a pump, my keys, my phone and wallet so I might as well keep on with the pack, I do like riding without one, but it's not all that life-compatible for me

That's a lot of money and I'm not sure I'd want to tap my steerer. Specialised swat kit gives you all that (2 cages, tool, tube/co2 box, chain tool tip cap) for £100 as long as your frame will take it.

Manufacture A - spend millions in FEA testing to make the lightest strongest steerer tube possible and adds a long warranty into the package

Manufacture B - spends thousands on new must have ENDURO cool as f#ck product. Which invalidates manufacture A warranty, development time and effort and cuts threads into the most important safety critical part of the whole bike.

World gone mad, is it the early 90s again and we're going to drill holes in our seat posts and stems again!

But does less damage than hammering a star fangled nut into your steerer leaving huge scores down the inside but are widely accepted as being fine and go down much lower than the thread this creates right at the top in a no/low stress zone. 😉

i think I have read that the tool can also be stored within the new pumps too, so could cut down on items to carry by doing that. And save modifying the steerer, if that is a concern.

Thread on the upper few mm of the steerer wouldn't bother me, and it was the neatness of storing in the fork that I liked. But doubling the price just to fit the thing puts me off totally.

I've posted this a couple of times so sorry for those who have already seen it

https://seekerbikes.com/2017/05/27/oneup-edc-now-available/

The 2 units I have ordered have shipped but seeing as it's heading to Australia (from the UK) it will be another few days yet.

The EDC combined with a swat xc box is what I've decided is my trail gear solution. I'll post all the details when I have the tool in hand and fitted

I was very interested in this, until.....

https://www.oneupcomponents.com/collections/edc

$59 for the tool, plus $25 for the top cap and another $35 for the tap to thread the end of your steerer.

Bit steep I think. I'd have lived with a top cap that didn't tension the headset and was held on with grub screws

Thanks for the feedback. Our hope is that the tap would be shared by groups of friends or that people would go to a local shop to have the work done. It was very important for us to provide a professional tap to complete the threading operation.

Cheers,
Jon @ OneUp

I store my tools etc in a bottle which is held in a cage - £4 and no faffing to fit. can hold more as well.

Dispassionate first thoughts:

Neat, expensive and unnecessary.

(That means I want one but won't bother actually buying one)

😀

Evening all (from downunder), here is my First Ride review of the OneUp EDC multi tool system I purchased. I'm pretty impressed to be honest. I think the guys at OneUp need a gold star for this one

https://seekerbikes.com/2017/06/25/new-gear-oneupcomponents-edc-multitool-system-steerer-tube-version/

Have a look, enjoy 😉

How do you stop the tool from getting wet, damp and rusty from the open end of the steerer?

There is a plastic insert. It also holds the end of the tool tube with an o ring to stop any rattling at the bottom

Didn't realise they were available yet. Think I'd prefer the pump version.

Hmm, pump & tool are $80Au each. Think I'll sit this one out.

Maybe it's just me, but I'm afraid that I don't get it. It's clever certainly but very expensive and strikes me as a solution looking for a problem (possibly something Dyson might design) when there are no end of rucksacks, frame clips, saddle/frame bags, tool bottles and good old pockets that'll do the same thing. If you like wacky ideas someone already produces a tool kit hidden in a bar end and another that slots inside your bars.

If you like wacky ideas someone already produces a tool kit hidden in a bar end

Its just too expensive it is a great solution but at some price

Also not much use for those of us with more than one bike as i wont be paying that per ike when i can just put one multitool and pump in a camelbak

You don't need one per bike as you can get the top caps separately.

That's solved a problem I didnt know I had until 3 minutes ago.

[quote=barbs ]You don't need one per bike as you can get the top caps separately.

still easier to just leave the tools in my camelbak

To those of you who just carry a tool in a pack I get that, I've done the same for donkeys years.

I am really enjoying riding without a pack though. For me this really comes into its own on on bike parky type stuff or very steep technical trails. It feels a lot free-er.

Having said that not wearing a pack does leave my back feeling less protected.

XC racer types and DH types have always been more sand backpack than trail riders. I guess the modern Enduro bike means that trail riders can ride what would have been considered DH terrain much easier and as part of normal trail riding.

For me and my scenario I'm enjoying not wearing a pack when it suits. I still do for rides where more water, food, clothing options, more spares, more tools, pump, first aid kit etc are deemed useful.

Now for some pics (not mine). These are from Saturdays ride at Mt Narra which is classic Sydney Northern Beaches riding https://www.flickr.com/photos/yankinoz/sets/72157682364666932/with/35116007250/

Just clicked on the video for this on facebook then noticed the Pump, which would be perfect for me until i saw the price. Its looks a fantastically neat bit of kit but even for me the most die hard victim of gadget fashion its too much cash...Especially when i can tape and strap most of the kit around the frame for free.

Okay, I really like the idea of this and with Jon from oneup commenting here, there are a couple of questions I'd like cleared up.

1. The blurb on the website suggests that you need to leave 5mm above the top of the stem. How critical is this as mine is already cut flush.

2. Have any mainstream manufacturers commented on this yet? I agree with the comments above that it seems less damaging than whacking in a SFN but what are the likes of Rockshox and Fox saying?

Well, the 5mm above the stem is where you cut the thread, so without that, there's nothing to screw the top cap onto.

Not seen anything for fork manufacturers, but cutting a thread above the stem should be fine, there's no load on that part of the steerer - I guess if you were to move your stem higher and have that threaded bit inside the clamped area, that's a different story, but kind of unlikely

Does the top cap sit over the ouside of the steerer then? I'd assumed it was flat topped like a conventional stem cap which works without steerer protruding from the stem.

Before there was One up...

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There was Cool Tool. Forgot I still had this, must be 25 years old.

Onzadog - Member
Does the top cap sit over the ouside of the steerer then? I'd assumed it was flat topped like a conventional stem cap which works without steerer protruding from the stem.

That's how I understand it - you cur a thread on the outside of the steerer at the top, using the tool

Your top cap then screws onto that thread to preload the headset, but leaving the inside of the steerer empty.

Threads definitely go on the inside.
Perhaps they've specced the 5mm longer steerer is to make sure that the stem isn't clamping anywhere with threads in it. Can't see it being a problem myself.

Anyone know what size tap it is? Got lots of taps here at work so might have one to fit..

Maybe a better vid here:

Definitely a faff, but they've designed the tools very well.

that tap is effing brilliant.

infact that whole thing looks really well designed (never seen one up close) but love it.

too pricey for me though.

Local service guy has ordered the tap, so brings the price down a tad

Blimey! What problem does this solve again?

^^ Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

It's expensive. I don't need one. Some people have a dislike of riding with backpacks. Some of *those* people want to carry tools etc but don't want to put them in pockets of taped to the bike.

I'm pretty sure you knew all that, but just in case you weren't just indulging in some bizarre inverse snobbery, I've spelled it out for you.

HTH

Si

I've had mine for a couple of weeks now. It's been used on a range of rides and a range of mechanicals. I'm using it conjunction with a SWAT XC box. Means I have light inner tube, tyre boot, CO2 inflator, tyre lever, spare brake pads. Spare hanger is taped to the frame. Total weight added to the bike is probably just under 500g + up to 650g of water (this reduces to 0g as I drink it)

The weight is all carried relatively low and centrally. I notice the weight (with water bottle full) when lifting it into the car but don't notice it when riding. I'm pretty anti seat bag. I notice the increased weight when riding because it's up so high and they don't work with dropper posts and longish travel (160mm)

Today's ride was a long Northern Beaches lap with a backpack (water, food, pump, first aid kit, tube & various small spares). The bits and bobs on the bike would previously been in my pack to. I'm not doubling up on stuff I wouldn't double up on anyway (e.g. Tubes)

Last weekend we did some runs at Narrabean. Fast DH style riding not wearing a pack. I needed to change the rear brake pads and nip up the front 20mm axle.

It's handy just knowing the key items to deal with the commonist of problems are on the bike all the time. Makes it really easy to head out for a local ride without a pack or do DH style runs without a pack but not have to risk being forced to walk with a puncture or similar. It feels really 'free' not wearing a pack. I definitely notice a pack more now that I'm getting used to not wearing one regularly. When full of water it's pretty heavy and in steep technical ground I feel it moving around a bit. Don't get me wrong it's not a problem it's just I do notice it.

Something interesting is just how handy the tool is. It's literally just there constantly by your hands. I know it's not exactly the hardest thing to pop your pack off your back to get at a tool for say adjusting lever angles on the bars or nipping up a front axle that hasn't been seated properly in the rush to not keep riding buddies waiting but it is super cool to have something as ridiculously convienient after so many years of diving in packs

I am aware that all this is all probably tainted with a big dose of confirmation bias (would this be made twice as bad because we've brought 2!!) but what to do, you are more than welcome to dismiss it all (would this just be an inverted form of confirmation bias to justify your decision not to buy one?? Ha ha, probably)

I actually love this, but them I'm a geek. Maybe one day we'll offer it as an option pre-fitted on birds, plus the guys at one-up are pretty cool. True story:

Me: "Hey its Ben from Bird, I've been testing your chain devices and I like them. Can I buy them?"
One Up: "Sure, I will send you a price list for OE"
Me: "Thanks"
[ask a few more questions]
Me: "Great I will get an order over to you"
One Up: "No problems, how about we ship you a couple hundred now and work out the details?"

That was it. More conversations since of course, but we went from Hi to no problems they're in the post in a single conversation. Never met a company that laid back before. So easy to deal with and great products. If you can't buy british, be sure that Buying One Up is supporting the good guys!

Ben - what do you reckon the sketch will be regarding the 8mm of thread required in the top of the steerer? Some folks have been worried about invalidating warrentees.

From my perspective I'd be surprised if it was a problem. Steerers need cutting anyway, it's beyond the points where lots of stress is applied (bottom of head tube and top of head tube to bottom of stem have got to be the problem areas). I have a normally run a 'normal' 10mm of spacer on the top of my stem (5mm below) so it's up out of the way anyway.

I think it would be a cool custom option on a bike build

Neat in some ways.
But as others have said, expensive for what it is.

I just pop a multi tool in my short or jersey pocket.

Still ride bagless.

@iggs - thats the exact reason we're not supplying them right now. I have no clarity on the warranty side. If and when I do get that, I am sure we'll go right ahead and start stocking them! Like you say there's realistically almost no way its going to effect anything really, unless someone over tightens the top bolt of a stem, with it fully up/no spacers above.

I've had mine for a couple of weeks now. It's been used on a range of rides and a range of mechanicals.

I must be really lucky, whilst I carry a multi tool on all rides, I can't actually remember the last time I found myself needing it to save a ride. It's more an if needed item?

Of the folks using them who may have ridden in the wet and washed your bikes, how well sealed is this from the top or is the tool likely to rust over time?

I've got the pump version, (birthday, one of the many pleasures of being married to a fellow mountain biker...). The pump is properly well made, solid, well-sealed, light and pushes a good volume of air. The tool kit is also well-sealed into the top of the pump. I have done some wet rides and I'm an anal bike-washer, the seals work.

Riding bagless, with enough kit to self-rescue in most situations is nirvana to me.

The pump seems to be out of stock everywhere, where are people getting them?

Of the folks using them who may have ridden in the wet and washed your bikes, how well sealed is this from the top or is the tool likely to rust over time?

There's an O ring at the top of the tool to help it stay in place and seal it from the elephants, and a lightweight 'bung' under the steerer that stops the tool from rattling so it's pretty well sealed.

Re. the cutting of threads, I've installed a few of these, including the one on my bike and there's so few threads that I'd say it's a non-issue. Even if you were running no spacer above the stem, the threaded section would probably only just reach the upper stem bolt. Someone commented on steerers being some precise engineered product which they are not. They are a 'one size' fits all / cut to length bit of pipe in simple terms. If they were that precise, they'd be size specific, with butted / tapered internal profiles related to the length of the tube and probably even be tapered to a thinner wall right at the top where there are lower leverage forces, just the clamping forces (generally only 5Nm) from the upper stem bolt.

simply_oli_y - Member
Neat in some ways.
But as others have said, expensive for what it is.

I just pop a multi tool in my short or jersey pocket.

As someone that dropped extra cash on a carbon specialized to get the SWAT storage and stop riding with a pack I think this is great product. If only it launched earlier in the year, it would have saved me the price difference between comp and elite minus this tool!