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Been trying to sell my bike on fleabay for 2 weeks, and no real nibbles, apart from those that think my spirit will break if they keep offering silly low money!

ARRRGGGGHHHH!

Is there hope? Is there a better place to sell? Should I split the bike into bits and try that way?

Please help! I want to fund my new Mid Life Crisis project....


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 9:34 am
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I guess it depends on what you're trying to get for it and what the spec. is. If it's an old frame/forks but with newer bits then yeah I'd split it as a the Nomad market would be fairly niche IMO (it was on my short-list a while back but I ended up with a Froggy instead).


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 9:41 am
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I'd happily buy a second hand frame- but if I wanted a high-end bike, i'd want to choose the spec myself.

Splitting is the best way to get what you think its worth.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 9:47 am
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Selling a high end bike is never a good way to go - def split it (I bought a Nomad frame a couple of years ago and sold it a year later easily)


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 10:06 am
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I would love a nomad but I wouldn't buy a second hand one for £1600.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 10:06 am
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we've found that selling high end bikes second hand is hard. I think there's a mental barrier around the 1k mark - anything more than that and it's "I could buy a new bike for that..."


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 10:13 am
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Split it.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 10:14 am
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See my reply in your other thread in the classifieds. The build is mingy as a whole. All parts on their own its stunning.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 10:22 am
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Posted : 25/03/2010 10:24 am
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I would split my nomad if I was to sell it. People who are looking at those sort of frames second hand I expect already have a number of favourite components that they would want to swap onto the frame.

It is a pita splitting tho.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 10:25 am
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I've never seen the point of selling the bike complete.

Anyone looking at decent sh stuff will be into bikes, know what they want, and not want to lose a heap of £ on selling parts that will hang fine on the next frame.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 10:27 am
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I'll be splitting my nomad when I sell it (although my build rocks, totems on a nomad isn't everyones cup of tea...)
No one wants someone elses bobbins build


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 10:48 am
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I bought a Nomad frame a couple of years ago and sold it a year later easily
Damning it with faint praise?


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 11:00 am
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you are doing ebay wrong if its been on there for two weeks and not sold.

its not classifides, its an online auction.

put the price down.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 11:04 am
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I reckon you should be able to get the best part of £600 for the frame if it's in good nick (recent bearing/shock service etc...)

(least that's what I'd hope for if I sold mine)


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 11:31 am
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Damning it with faint praise?

Not at all - just too much bike for me & my riding.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 11:31 am
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Sorry andy, but I think you'll only get about £1400 tops when split, which would suggest that the bike was overpriced. Take postage out of that and you may end up with even less.
No offence mate.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 11:47 am
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Not at all - just too much bike for me & my riding.
Fair enough, and I'd probably think the same (if i ever get to try one out) I've got a 5" heckler and that's a bit OTT for quite a lot of my riding.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 11:49 am
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If you relly want to sell whole, stick it back on ebay with a 99p start price and a sensible/high reserve.

Then When it doesn't sell (again) put it back on startign att he price id didnt sell at, gaurneteed the original 'winner' will bid, and a couple of others who missed out. Should add 10% or so to the previous price and be a fair reprisentation of the market value.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 11:53 am
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Donk - same here!


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 12:05 pm
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...duh!

The thing no one seems to realise with fleaBay is that if you start something at 99p with NO reserve, it will always go for [i]much[/i] more than it would go for otherwise. In fact - on 99p and no reserve - it will pretty much [i]always[/i] go for more than the market value. Simples.

I sold my immaculate Honda Bros 650 exactly like that a year or so ago - 99p no reserve. It had no MOT, seized brakes, bald tyres and a worn clutch and I got £880 cash for it in the end. I'd only paid £1300 for it 3 years previously when it had an MOT! Literally within 30 minutes of the auction starting I had 8 bids - and it had gone up to £330, thus generating intense general interest in the bike. I was fielding enquires on a daily basis.

If things don't appear to be going well, you can always pull the auction, but you will most likely never need to... Why does no one seemingly [i]get[/i] this simple concept??


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 12:49 pm
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i had a set of ice axes on ebay a bit back cost me 220 new used them a few times but didnt get on with the shape so stuck them on at 120 buy it now as they were like new. didnt sell. so next time stuck them on at 99p with 100 reserve . still no sale. stuck them on at 99p with no reserve they sold for just under 250 plus postage . madness lol


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 12:53 pm
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As everyone has said you should split it as the build is pretty personal if I was in the market I'd be tempted by the frame (though it's too big for me, it does look lovely in that colour)but there's a load of bits on there I'd never fit to one of my bikes and I'd just have to sell them anyway which is a pain.

Your eBay mistake was putting it on with a reserve - it's utterly pointless in it's current guise and just demoralises people. It's doesn't matter if you're highest bidder if you still haven't reached a reserve, you just don't create the same bidding frenzy. Personally I don't think the "reserve not met" should be shown before the end of the auction anyway but that's a separate argument.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 2:22 pm
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Agree on some of the comments above

Split it
99p no reserve

Yes, it is more of a hassle but last time I looked at Nomad frame only deals on Ebay I was stunned at how much folk were prepared to pay for them


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 2:28 pm
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I agree with the above regarding selling it.

A couple of other things that might be putting people off are your lack of feedback for people to gauge how genuine you are as a seller & the fact there aren't many pics of the bike.
If I was looking to buy a bike from eBay worth that much I would want loads of decent shots taken from plenty of angles; just shows that there's nothing to hide & gives the buyer a bit of confidence.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 2:35 pm
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I'm with no_eyed_dear on this one. You want people watching/bidding on your stuff as the red mist descends.

Once you get them excited and feeling like it's a personal insult if someone outbids them then they'll pay good money for what was (originally) a bargin 99p. No one is interested in a £1600 buy-it-now.

Oh, and don't bother with reserves. People will see that and not bother as hey know they won't get a 'bargain' even though in reality they will pay more at the end of the auction.

I normally put a 99p start on everything with a buy-it-now price. I get very little that sells for less than the b-i-n price.

Anyway, if you're after a Nomad it's a fair chance you have kit you want to bring over from your old bike so splitting higher end stuff is always policy.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 2:42 pm
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I'm with no_eyed_dear on this one. You want people watching/bidding on your stuff as the red mist descends.

Once you get them excited and feeling like it's a personal insult if someone outbids them then they'll pay good money for what was (originally) a bargin 99p. No one is interested in a £1600 buy-it-now.

Oh, and don't bother with reserves. People will see that and not bother as hey know they won't get a 'bargain' even though in reality they will pay more at the end of the auction.

I normally put a 99p start on everything with a buy-it-now price. I get very little that sells for less than the b-i-n price.

Anyway, if you're after a Nomad it's a fair chance you have kit you want to bring over from your old bike so splitting higher end stuff is always policy.

What he said. I think I've been watching your ebay ad and to be honest it just puts off prospective buyers.


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 2:52 pm
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Sorry AndyRT I take it back, it wasnt yours I was watching, although what everyone else says here still applies, start at 99p with no reserve, you need to suck they buyers in thinking they will get a deal, then as it goes up they move their expectations..


 
Posted : 25/03/2010 5:08 pm