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I need to change the tyres on my hardtail. I want something about 2.25/2.30 in volume with decent grip but also decent rolling......

I currently run Nobby Nic 2.25 R/F and have also tried High roller 2.35 front / Advantage 2.25 rear but just fancy a change.

Riding will be a mix of trail centre and natural stuff (mainly the Pentlands). I will be running the tyres tubeless on Stans Alpine rims although dont want UST - Tubeless ready or something that will run with latex in it. As I am running them tubeless I would like them to be able to run in most conditions but mainly mud, loose conditions, I dont want a mud specific tyre.

I am guessing a budget of up to about £40 per tyre and dont mind different types os tyres back and front.

Any advice on these greatly appreciated.

I had thought about Maxxis Ardent but just not sure.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 1:39 pm
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No tyre thread is complete without the ubiquitous: “decent grip but also decent rolling” comment.

Well done for getting it in the op.

Conti mountain king II 2.4? Comes up a bit small so fits the bill.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 1:42 pm
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Posted : 25/01/2013 1:42 pm
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can't go wrong with the on-one offerings for the money at the mo IMO.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 1:43 pm
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I hadnt really thought about the Conti tyres. What about a mountain king II 2.4 up front and the SuperSonic version on the back?


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 1:53 pm
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Leftfield- Get a Nevegal 2.1 DTC, then attack it with a pair of cutters and remove every second intermediate knob. Standard nevegals are cloggy in mud, cutting them like this opens up the tread and lets them clear better. So you get a pretty light, grippy, good-for-everything tyre. Not the strongest sidewalls but then you're happy with Nics and they're made of sausageskin. Won't be as fast as your Nics but grip better (much better in mud). Little bit smaller but not drastically.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 1:56 pm
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Conti mountain king II 2.4?

The 2.2 is more the size he's after, I reckon.

Not tested them Tubeless yet, but Conti claim they're tubeless ready.

Get the Protection version both ends as its v light and has the good compound.

Check out Bike Discount or Biek Components.de for good prices on a pair.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 1:58 pm
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Don’t know about a supersonic but I have the black chilli MK upfront with something a lot faster at the back. The MK works great and is the best tyre yet for me. I tried the X King at the back but it was rubbish, I had a non chilli version and it just wouldn’t sit on the rim, went back to the old one in the end and haven’t bothered to change it yet.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 1:59 pm
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Intense System 5.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 2:00 pm
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2.4 ardent?


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 2:01 pm
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Bonty XR4


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 2:11 pm
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Specialized captain on the back, purgatory on the front, job done!


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 2:19 pm
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@mmel: Ground Control on the back, purgatory on the front. Sorted.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 2:21 pm
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Fancy a change? Put summer tyres on. That'll learn you!


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 2:23 pm
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oooh interesting, not tried a Ground Control, how does it compare to a 2.2 Captain?


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 2:25 pm
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Sorry mmel. Got me there, not tried the Captains :oops:. I have these in the shed / on the bike:
Conti explorers, pinch flats, more then I care to remember. Never again.
Bontrager, general and various sizes and guises, all very average, designed for American / Californian sand.

Maxis Ardent 2.4s, did Alps and South Downs, great all rounders, but if you even say the words "wet roots" your bike will just fall over by itself.

Bontrager MudX 2.0, fantastic all year round. I keep them on the SS.

I tried the Spesh combo (ground Control & Purgatory)at the start of last year on my new FS. I was pretty impressed. Hammered around CodYb, very good on a tubeless setup, a few rear wheel washouts on hard and fast berms, but I was running pretty low pressure.

On-One Chunky Monkey, took up a cheap pre Christmas deal, just one 2.4 for the front. Really struggled on a longer route that had a lot of roadwork included. It's sticky with a high rolling resistance. But, truly redeemed itself last night in the snow!

I will be going back to the Purgatory up front soon. The Spesh GC has been very good all year, even in the deep sludge.

Btw, these are all 29er versions.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 2:46 pm
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Not really sure why but have just never liked the Spesh tyres and dont want the On One tyres.

I am currently thinking about the Conti MK II up front and a Supersonic on the rear, both 2.4. I also fancy the Ardent, but not sure how it is, perhaps the Ardent on the rear (sorry, not sure about the make up of it compared to the MK for rolling/grip).

Intense isnt a tyre I had even considered, what are they like up front?


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 2:53 pm
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Bigyinn - thanks for that, so my Racing Ralph on the back and Rocket ron on the front?

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Posted : 25/01/2013 2:54 pm
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I've been very impressed with them - just a good all round tyre for pretty much all conditions.

[url= http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/tyres/mountain/product/review-intense-system-5-21in-11-37729 ]http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/tyres/mountain/product/review-intense-system-5-21in-11-37729[/url]


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 2:55 pm
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Interesting stuff dday. I'm on old fashioned 26" wheels and find the Captain and Purgatory combo just right for rocky North Wales riding.

One thing I find is that the Captain works better back-to-front on the rear, giving a bit more traction tackling techy climbs. If the rear does wash out when braking - it's when I want it to, and always before the Purg on the front.

Gotta say they go up tubeless really easily too


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 2:57 pm
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The Panaracers are also pretty good.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 2:59 pm
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My combo of Maxxis Minion 2.35/ADvantage 2.1 (I think) work really well on most things. Roll pretty well too. They've got even better after setting them up tubeless..


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 3:03 pm
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I tried the Ardent (2.25 I think) slashed a gash on my first ride on Dartmoor, didn't tear through but looked like it was going to so I took it off. Faster rolling than a high roller and about the same size, but sidewalls made of butter.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 3:05 pm
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Maxxis Ignitors seem to go the trick for me. i've never tried these myself but Schwalbe Hans Dampf's seem to be popular...


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 3:05 pm
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Hans Dampf's are the answer to every MTB tyre question :p


 
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Hans Dampf's are the answer to every [s]MTB tyre[/s] question :p

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should have said Hans Dampf!!


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 3:16 pm
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I've just worn out a pair of WTB Bronsons 2.3s which I've been very impressed with. They go tubeless easily, they roll well and the grip has been good. I've been very happy with them. Worth considering. I wore the rear out and have put an old Weirwolf on and that combo works well as it seems to roll slightly faster. I've found the Weirwolf to clog in mud in the past but not yet suffered that with it on the back.

Before that I used High rollers which I also liked but they didn't roll as fast but were a bit more solid. Perhaps weren't quite as good in the mud. I hated the Nobby Nics they replaced which wore quickly and constantly punctured.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 4:04 pm
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they roll well and the grip has been good

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Posted : 25/01/2013 4:18 pm
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Ok, let me write a more accurate review.

I like them, you may or may not.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 4:37 pm
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Don't even think about it! Just got some wheels with a new set of these on and although they grip quite well they drag like hell uphill. They'll be coming off as soon as I've got the cash.

Interested in the responses here too as I'm a huge fan of the Kenda Nevegal/Blue Groove combo but had thought about having a change since I need some new tyres.

I'm after light and free rolling with decent grip?


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 4:58 pm
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Maxxis minion 2.5 exo up front, ardent 2.25 exo on the rear for me. Good grip and quicker rolling than the nevegals they replaced. The reinforced sidewalls (exo) have worked well in the lakes, several slashes on the side and still going strong. The ardent can get a bit overwhelmed in mud but due to the lakes being mainly rocky it's not a problem. Recomended.


 
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Hans Dampf tyres are really good in most surfaces and I would say better than the Minion/High roller they replaced. Trail star and pace star tubeless tyres for 55 quid delivered is a as good if not better a deal than most other tyres. They have a large volume 2.35 profile which may not suit every frame.


 
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I don't rate the Conti Mountain Kings. They grip pretty well (espcially on wet roots) but they have terrible rolling resistance. Constantly well like I've got the brakes on.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 10:08 pm
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Decided on the Hans dampf tyres, trailstar for the from=nt and Pacestar for the rear. Ordered from Bikediscount.de for quite a bit cheaper than UK based sellers.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 11:38 pm
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Spesh Purgatory on the front, Sauserwind on the back...

Not S-Works versions, but Control.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 11:43 pm
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Let us know how you get on with the HDs?
I'm looking to try them when my High Rollers wear out.


 
Posted : 25/01/2013 11:45 pm
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Despite eariler slagging off, i also recommend Bonty XR4 TLR for your purposes. Light and grippy.


 
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Specialized captain on the back, purgatory on the front, job done!

Worked better than a NN / RR combo and cheaper


 
Posted : 26/01/2013 12:12 am
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Whenever I ask myself "what tire for" I think:

Hans Damf?

If the answer is no then

High Roller

If the answer is no then

Hans Damf.


 
Posted : 26/01/2013 12:17 am
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XR4's are the answer.
To pretty much everything.

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One thing I find is that the Captain works better back-to-front on the rear, giving a bit more traction tackling techy climbs.

Hmmn, bit 'mainstream' isn't it? 😉
I run my rear inside out.
It workes a lot better on hexagonal edged hits. 😀


 
Posted : 26/01/2013 12:21 am
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first ride with the Hans Damf today,not quite as fast rolling as the Nobby Nics they replaced but brilliant on the descents. Really confidence inspiring an just seemed to hang on in there no matter what. Just wish I had got some ages ago, great tyres


 
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XR4's are good and seem to roll well enough to me.


 
Posted : 03/03/2013 9:23 pm
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XR4s are incredible. They seem to get good and bad press at the same time and perhaps I'm doing it wrong but I've never ever ever lost traction with Bonty XR4s 2.35 front and rear...


 
Posted : 03/03/2013 9:29 pm
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I've been trying a set of Hans Dampfs for the last month or so. Really not impressed to be honest.

They go on & blow up nicely on a tubeless arrangement, putting them side by side against a 2.5 Minion EXO they are almost the same width, but noticably lower profile knobs.

They roll a bit faster than a Minion, but otherwise fall down in every other area. They have noticably less grip when pushing hard into corners, tending to break traction a lot earlier.

I thought maybe I was just riding harder & finding the limit, but everyone who has ridden my bike says the same thing, and no-one I ride with is a mincer.

Minions back on & going noticably quicker again.


 
Posted : 03/03/2013 9:41 pm