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Details just released; 600 grams saved over the ali model, Threaded BB, Bottle cage mounts, easy internal cable routing and a really nice blue colour! Looks good to me.


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 9:26 pm
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wtf + tits tech 😯

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Posted : 21/12/2015 9:57 pm
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Haha GOLD!


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 10:01 pm
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Details JUST released even though we have a demo bike and customers already riding 😀

We weighed to medium frames minus seat clamp and axle as per 'the rules' and got 6.22lb for the raw and 6.38 for the blue, so both quite a bit lighter than the 6.5 quoted which is nice. Really tidy frames.

I am supposed to be riding our demo over the xmas break but injury is holding me back just now, fingers crossed to get a few in.


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 10:11 pm
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What are these going for price wise?


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 10:14 pm
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Frames are £2599, so towards the cheaper end of carbon frame only enduro machines these days. Still not cheap mind, but cheaper than an Evil Insurgent/SB6c/Nomad etc


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 10:33 pm
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Ouch. What's the warranty?


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 10:37 pm
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Well, you COULD buy a frame/fork/wheelset combo and get it for £2339 😉

TR warranty is 2 years, which is a bit shorter than some but we have been doing them for over four years and the very few problems that have come up were resolved very quickly. Solid bikes, and good backup.


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 10:43 pm
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It's good to see they've moved on from cock and balls
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Posted : 21/12/2015 10:45 pm
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so maxxis cannot have a calendar but Transitions can have tits tech?


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 10:50 pm
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but cheaper than an Evil Insurgent/SB6c/Nomad etc

Not a lot! It lists at £2600. The Bronson comes in at £2800 with a Fox X EVOL rather than a monarch and has a lifetime warranty.
Lovely bikes though.


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 10:52 pm
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I know! It's an OUTRAGE!

Personally as someone with a penis I found the Carbon Covert more offensive than the Plastic Patrol


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 10:53 pm
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Probably the first Transition I would consider owning. Shame they couldn't have been a bit more subtle with the graphics. The solid blue looks better without the writing all over it.

Not for £2600 though.


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 10:54 pm
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Well as someone with a penis over 1 inch long, I know how money and value works......


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 10:54 pm
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Agreed, SC warranty is great. The Evil is £2800 with a Monarch and a warranty you might have to use


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 10:56 pm
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Specialized could learn a lot from the "Bottom Bracket Storage System" and "Put A Bottle And Stuff In There".


 
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Agreed, SC warranty is great. The Evil is £2800 with a Monarch and a warranty you might have to use

But could conceivably be shit outta luck if you try......


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 11:00 pm
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What Specialized bikes can't take a water bottle?


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 11:20 pm
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The blue is lovely and hopefully my next purchase, just 600g weight saving though, whats that a jar of mayonnaise?


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 11:25 pm
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just 600g weight saving though, whats that a jar of mayonnaise?

that's a strange thing to say on several levels


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 11:36 pm
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1.5lb sounds better


 
Posted : 21/12/2015 11:39 pm
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that's a strange thing to say on several levels

Good, I wouldn't want to be normal 🙂


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 12:37 am
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£2,600 😯 I'll be riding my 26" Covert for a good while yet. I thought £1,200 for a frame was quite a lot.

600g - approximately the difference between a full camel back and one 3/4 full


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 12:42 am
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I'll be on my Covert one more year, really wanted one of these but mainly for the colour, and that's just ridiculous! So 2017 alu Patrol it will be for me


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 12:45 am
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@pigyn what frame/fork/wheelset combo for £2339?


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 12:53 am
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I heard rumours Transition were doing another carbon bike. I'm glad its not the Scout, I would find it hard to resist a carbon Scout even though I absolutely love my Bandit and have no money for a new frame.

Not a lot! It lists at £2600. The Bronson comes in at £2800 with a Fox X EVOL rather than a monarch and has a lifetime warranty.

Usually if there is something wrong with the frame it'll make it self known within 2 years so I'm not bothered by this. Also I believe Transition have a lifetime crash replacement policy.


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 12:56 am
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Frames are £2599, so towards the cheaper end of carbon frame only enduro machines these days.

£2600 is what my carbon Capra full bike cost with new Lyriks, Stealth Reverb, 1x11, Monarch RCT3 etc


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 2:20 am
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so maxxis cannot have a calendar but Transitions can have tits tech?

I think Transitions 'humour' is puerile and dated. I say that as someone who has ordered one of these and now wishes to a degree that he hadn't. It's all a bit lame and desperate IMHO.


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 6:28 am
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£2600 is what my carbon Capra full bike cost with new Lyriks, Stealth Reverb, 1x11, Monarch RCT3 etc


Well put, things cost different amounts, I'm amazed nobody has made that point before.


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 6:38 am
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At least we can be certain where the Cove marketing team ended up now


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 7:22 am
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Haha legend, made me think of cove too.

Looks a nice frame, but £2.6k and a 2 year warranty is just taking the piss IMO.

I don't think I saw any info about the quality of the carbon either, just a load of puerile gags.


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 8:36 am
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Well put, things cost different amounts, I'm amazed nobody has made that point before.

Well I was just responding to the idea that £2599 is at the cheap end of carbon enduro bike frames. No need to be so sarky really was there.


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 8:54 am
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Just got my ally patrol (highlight yellow) last month... absolutely love it.
Really looking forward to riding it for 4months in the Alps next year with trailAddiction.

I have no doubt the new carbon one will be nothing but superb


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 9:44 am
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£2600 is what my carbon Capra full bike cost with new Lyriks, Stealth Reverb, 1x11, Monarch RCT3 etc

Wonder how much of the 2600 is the cost of the frame? Seriously curious.

Lyrics - 600
Reverb - 180
Shock (RC3) - 300
Wheels - 500
Rest - 400 ?

Leaves just over 600 for the frame and profit.

That can't be right. Someone in the biking industry tell me how they do it please.


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 10:26 am
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Cut all those amounts by half (or maybe two thirds) darrenspink.


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 10:29 am
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That can't be right. Someone in the biking industry tell me how they do it please.

As an outside bet they're not paying full mrrp for the components.


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 10:31 am
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As an outside bet they're not paying full mrrp for the components

Obviously.

Still doesn't leave a lot for the frame build and company costs/profit.


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 10:36 am
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@pigyn what frame/fork/wheelset combo for £2339?

No doubt @pigyn will be along in a minute to confirm, but I took this to mean they do 10% off the package if you buy the complete rolling chassis from them - i.e. you choose wheels and fork, and get 10% off the whole lot. The frame element of this bundle therefore costs £2339.


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 11:02 am
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No doubt @pigyn will be along in a minute to confirm, but I took this to mean they do 10% off the package if you buy the complete rolling chassis from them - i.e. you choose wheels and fork, and get 10% off the whole lot. The frame element of this bundle therefore costs £2339.

I knew that!

<cancels kids Christmas presents>


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 11:11 am
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Makes me laugh people comparing it to capras. YT Carbon isn't exactly the best. I've broke my tues and between me and my mates 7 Carbon YT's have died.


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 11:14 am
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Wow the stw is strong in this thread

I'm sure Transition will be desperately dropping the price of their frames and rewriting their sales material with some nice dry middle age middle class factual text as we speak


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 11:43 am
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Yeah, the £2339 is just for the frame part. Although you can have these old 26" Mavic wheels and a set of naff old Manitous for free if you want 😉 Not much use mind.

A more usual rolling chassis offer would be frame £2339, Fox 36 FIT4 £756, hand built DT350/Easton ARC30 wheels £399.
But seeing as a 6.2lb race frame isn't light enough then just get the alu version for £1395 instead. 😀


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 12:10 pm
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Throw in a jar of mayonnaise and I'll think about it 🙂


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 12:16 pm
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ing the price of their frames and rewriting their sales material with some nice dry middle age middle class factual text as we speak

Don't need the price to change just less of the humour designed for 13 year olds. Pretty sure their target market isn't young teenagers - so they might want to think of that.


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 12:40 pm
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Who cares about their humour??? Although TBH I quite like they P out of bike industry bullshine


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 12:53 pm
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Who cares about their humour??? Although TBH I quite like they P out of bike industry bullshine

I like that aspect. It's just the "Ha ha - he said 'tits' - ha ha!" that is dumb.


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 1:05 pm
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i thought it was quite funny but i didnt realise they had a history of puerile humour. Wet farts.

thats too much cash for me though frame only!


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 1:07 pm
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They can take the piss out of the industry all they want, but not whilst putting a £2,600 out with a 2 year warranty. Mibbie more time thinking about the kit, rather than trying to be clever with marketing?


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 1:08 pm
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Perish the thought any of you sensitive souls are subjected to an episode of something like red dwarf or blackadder over the Xmas break!


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 1:50 pm
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Red Dwarf's funny though, and I need it to get through turbo sessions. It also has a longer warranty iirc


 
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If I was spending that kind of money on a road bike frame I'm sure there'd be loads of info on what grades of carbon fibre it used.

Transition could tell us that and just include a free copy of Viz with each frame. It's a lot funnier TBH.


 
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Posted : 22/12/2015 2:35 pm
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Perish the thought any of you sensitive souls are subjected to an episode of something like red dwarf or blackadder over the Xmas break!

Are you serious? Both of those have liberal amounts of comedy genius!


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 2:42 pm
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Lovely looking bike, but like all carbon MTBs it's a fair wad of cash.

As for the TITS and WTF, I liked it it's a dig at all,the marketing BS we get fed, I especially liked the Water bottle thing!


 
Posted : 22/12/2015 8:53 pm