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"as i can actually try that and am struggling to think of anything 'new' in my budget and within a distance i could realistically travel to view."

Blimey where do you live, Outer Mongolia? There are bike shops all over the place around here!


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:25 pm
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Hope you will be very happy its a Lovely looking bike. As for the shaving legs thing do amateur roadies really shave their legs if they don't compete?


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:26 pm
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You will be fine on that. The headtubes on those Bianchis are big as they're more of a sportive bike (I used to sell them) and the toptube length sounds ok for someone your size. Especially as you're new to road biking.

If you're really paranoid, put a bit of cash aside to buy a few cheap stems and be prepared to play around with your position.

You'll be fine.


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:26 pm
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There are shops here too... but i don't want to spend £1000+ which all new bikes seem to be locally.

This is <£600 and thereofre in a far more managable budget for me.


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:27 pm
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Sod the price, you don't have to buy it to sit on it or scrounge a test ride (especially if it's not a shop you use regularly) 😉


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:30 pm
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True true.. Not sure any around here do Bianchi's...

Will have a look about now.


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:30 pm
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Buy it.

Road bike set up for me

Seat tube 62 centre to top
Top tube 57 1/2 centre to centre
Seat post 230mm
Stem 120mm centre to centre
Bars are 170mm below seat
Seat to pedal 105cm
Anything much smaller than this would be way to small for me

But what happens if you got a bike with a 57.5 TT but with a 55 ST? Would you not ride it because you'd have to use a long seat post?


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:31 pm
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"As for the shaving legs thing do amateur roadies really shave their legs if they don't compete?"

Yes, it's one of the added bonuses of riding 😉 Sooo soft....erm


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:32 pm
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[url= http://www.bianchiusa.com/archives/10-bicycles/coast-to-coast/via-nirone-7-105/ ][/url]

This should let you see the geometry of the bike you have, just in case it has changed year on year.

On the basis that your bike is 54 centre to top (AS on chart) the chart says you have a top tube of 56cm and that this bike is a 57cm old school sizing.


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:33 pm
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Well, would you believe, my favoured LBS have one in stock in a 57.I guess if the 57 fits right, then the 55 would be too small. The only other they have of this model is a 53.

http://www.awcycles.co.uk/bikes/road-bikes/comfort-long-distance-road-bikes/via-nirone-7-xenon-road-bike-2012.html


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:34 pm
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Hope you will be very happy its a Lovely looking bike. As for the shaving legs thing do amateur roadies really shave their legs if they don't compete?

If you've got a lovely looking bike then you've got to have lovely looking legs.

Unfortunately mine are scarred from years of bmx riding so I wear some white bib longs instead of going for the shaved look.


 
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Well, would you believe, my favoured LBS have one in stock in a 57.I guess if the 57 fits right, then the 55 would be too small. The only other they have of this model is a 53.

UNG.

The one you have bought is a 57!


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:35 pm
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They also have this in stock in a 55 and seems to be the same geometry specs.

http://www.awcycles.co.uk/bikes/road-bikes/comfort-long-distance-road-bikes/bianchi-impulso-veloce-road-bike-2012.html


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:37 pm
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If it is too small, just lob a long stem and seat post on it and pretend you are a pro, as they often ride smaller more flickable frames 😀

p.s. good luck pulling this one off if you've got a beer belly, baggy shorts and a peaked helmet!


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:38 pm
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If it is too small, just lob a long stem and seat post on it and pretend you are a pro, as they often ride smaller more flickable frames

😆


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:39 pm
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I'm lost - have you bought this bike or not?

If not, get the seller to measure himself. The frame's clearly too small for him so just hope he's a bit bigger than you are.


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:44 pm
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I hope it fits you. I have my doubts but....


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:51 pm
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Its not a ****ing 54 though!


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:53 pm
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Stop trolling. You're either all thick or you're bored on a monday night. Im deadly serious though. Best thing to do is re-read the thread and ignore everyone elses replies other than mine.

Look at this: http://www.specialized.com/gb/gb/bikes/road/tarmac/s-workstarmacsl4#geometry

A size "58" specialized tarmac. Guess how long the seat tube is? 55cm!

The worlds gone mad.


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 10:57 pm
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I'm 6ft and I had a 57 - that was the right size for me

thanks for sharing.
another anecdotal sizing quote that is useless in answering the OP.


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 11:08 pm
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Not really, we've established that the bike is in fact a 57 isn't it? So he's the same height as the OP and rides the same sized bike. Seems relevant.


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 11:11 pm
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But what if he's got dead long arms?


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 11:16 pm
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But what happens if you got a bike with a 57.5 TT but with a 55 ST? Would you not ride it because you'd have to use a long seat post?

No because the top tube would be way to low the reach to the bars would be all wrong without putting the stem up a long way.With a horizontal top tube they would be 7cm lower than they are now


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 11:17 pm
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Not really, we've established that the bike is in fact a 57 isn't it? So he's the same height as the OP and rides the same sized bike. Seems relevant.

it's totally irrelevant when people are different body shapes/proportions and bikes are measured differently with different head and top tube lengths to their named size plus the different stem lengths

i'm 6ft 1 and ride a 56. that's also irrelevant


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 11:19 pm
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No because the top tube would be way to low the reach to the bars

Do you struggle tying your shoe laces aswell?


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 11:24 pm
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I am not being goaded by a former bmxer anymore
all their bikes are to small and for kids .If I rode a 55 cm frame it would look bloody stupid .I would look like someone who knew nothing about cycling and had bought a bike that was way to small


 
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Posted : 16/07/2012 11:33 pm
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I am not being goaded by a former bmxer anymore
all their bikes are to small and for kids

I think I just need to grow up and buy an adults size bike! (that wont fit me properly) 😀


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 11:36 pm
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Maybe a 24 inch wheel one may suit you now


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 11:38 pm
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I think I want a full adults sized one. At least then I'll grow into it and it'll save my parents some money in the long run.


 
Posted : 16/07/2012 11:41 pm
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Was mulling this over all night lol. I'm going to shoot to AW cycles after work, sit on their bikes and then measure them up, comparing to his. So we can then work out 2 things

1. What size his bike is
2. Whether his size is the size i need

It's the only method that technically makes any sense?

I REALLY want this Bianchi... but not at the expense of it being the completely wrong bike for me.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 8:13 am
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I'm going to shoot to AW cycles after work, sit on their bikes and then measure them up, comparing to his

Is the correct answer! - amazing that no one suggested this 🙄


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 9:08 am
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Bloke at AW was really helpful... although in a way really NOT lol.

They do a 'fitting service' where they measure 9 different bits and then compare the results when fed into a computer prog with the geometry of specific bikes to give you the definitive answer for yourself.

However, he did also say i can come in and throw a leg over the Bianchis to see which seems most appropriate.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 9:22 am
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Have a look at this - do a basic fit yourself as a starter:
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=FIT_CALCULATOR_INTRO

Assuming you know the exact model/geometry of the bike you are looking at, that should help.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 9:30 am
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Thank you. I do know the Geo of the bike... However unless i get the wife to get tap measure out later, i have no concept really of my own measurements 🙂


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 9:32 am
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weeksy, i'm 6'0" also and have got my 59cm road bike at work with me today.... you're more than welcome to pop over and have a sit/quick spin on it at lunch time if you want?


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 9:38 am
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I perhaps should have added I'm 6 ft of average dimension and rode exactly the same model of bike but as we are the same height I would suggest that with the ability to amend stem and saddle height he would be ok using the law of averages- of course I'm sure he should go for a custom fit tho 😈


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 9:43 am
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Just to chime in, hopefully helpfully, with road bikes fit is critical. You spend hours locked in position and can do yourself a damage on the wrong bike. One can only do so much with bars and stems and seatposts and crank sizes. If it doesn't fit right, you will not enjoy riding it.

Be patient there are loads of second hand road bikes out there, sold on as they don't fit the buyer probably !

Get yourself measured properly, best £30 I ever spent.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 9:46 am
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I perhaps should have added I'm 6 ft of average dimension and rode exactly the same model of bike

i think perhaps you should have for you post to be of any use.
no need for name calling either.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 9:50 am
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weeksy, i'm 6'0" also and have got my 59cm road bike at work with me today.... you're more than welcome to pop over and have a sit/quick spin on it at lunch time if you want?

Drop me a mail Phil.... addy in profile.

I could theoretically do lunchtime yes.

May be a stupid question, but would the fact the Bianchi is a C2C geometry going to make trying something else a bit of a red herring ?


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 9:53 am
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As your post above it is easy to miss out a key piece of info 😉

....but there is no need for a response of a condescending nature akin to yours really


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 9:57 am
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C2C geometry going to make trying something else a bit of a red herring ?

not if you know the ETT and stem length of each bike. (and if your seatpost is going to be long enough, but that's easily sorted.)


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 9:59 am
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email sent 🙂

i'll get the bike out the car and ready so you dont have to hang around if you're in a rush (i need to get it out the car ready for riding home tonight so i'm not exactly going out of my way on this one lol)


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 10:09 am
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I REALLY want this Bianchi... but not at the expense of it being the completely wrong bike for me.

One suggestion - If it's <£700 then just go and buy it.

Ride it a few times, see how it fits etc
You will always be able to sell it for what you bought it for so you won't lose any money .

If you don't get on with it and still want a road bike you can then get a bike fitting taking it with you as you might be able to tweak the stem/saddle etc to fit.

If not you'll be much more wiser and no worse off financially.


 
Posted : 17/07/2012 10:20 am
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Fair point Dave.

What i've done is sort of what i should have done first of all. Whether i get on with the Bianchi is almost seoncdary to whether i get on with roadie bikes in general to a great extent. I've only ridden one roadie which was a cheap PoS jobbie and too small, so didn't really give it more than a quick test ride before it was dismissed.

So, this evening i'm picking up a Specialized Roubaix in a 56 for a 24 hour test. That way i can get out for an hour this evening and 1-2 hours tomorrow and see if my riding heart is really in it as much as my theoretical desire to go and climb the Alps etc is really in it.

Part of the logic for buying the roadie is the Etape du Tour or simillar next year which i really fancy having a pop at.


 
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