Not sure if this has been done yet, but noticed a few pics of the above on different social media platforms over the weekend.
From the pictures at Grinduro/Ard Rock, looks like its stainless steel, mullet and maybe 140/150mm travel.
I'm in the market for a winter hardtail frame and the Starling looks great - hopefully a kidney sale won't be needed to fund it!
my mate was at Ard Rock and spoke to Joe from Starling (my mate has a murmur stainless steel).
It sounded like the hardtail was definitely on the cards. I suspect it will be in line with other 'gucci' UK frame builders prices.
But fingers crossed its a bit less pricey.
Intrigued by CS/BB/ST junction. Looks like swingarm parts used which seems odd?
https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/21079915/
I was trying to work that out too. I know the hardest bit to design on a modern hardtail is the BB:chainstays junction because you want loads of tyre and chainring clearance, torsional stiffness without harsh rigidity, and minimum weight. Is the extra tube, crossbrace and raised stays a lighter way to achieve this than a cast steel yoke?
*adds another one to the N+1 list*

That configuration of a high (ish) chainstay moves the chainstay away from the heavily congested area immediately behind the chainring where it's trapped between ring and tyre. It gets a little more clearance as the chainstay travels through the gap generated as the ring bends away from it's maximum diameter. The only downside I can see is the stay getting closer to the chain, especially in the higher gears, meaning more chain slap.
Not that I've discussed it with Joe but it looks like a tidy solution where other designs use plates in that area to slip between ring and tyre.
i saw this at Ard Rock.. it's a tube acting like a yoke.. all welded, but keeping the chainstays apart i guess.
DrP
sillyoldman
Full MemberIntrigued by CS/BB/ST junction. Looks like swingarm parts used which seems odd?
Maybe just using existing components for ease of prototyping?
my guess its a bodge....
It looks very like my BLE in that area - probably same parts.
Which seems to work well, in that there’s good clearance for big tyres etc.
Edit: can’t be exactly the same parts if it’s stainless but you know what I mean…
