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Not sure if this has been done yet, but noticed a few pics of the above on different social media platforms over the weekend.

From the pictures at Grinduro/Ard Rock, looks like its stainless steel, mullet and maybe 140/150mm travel.

I'm in the market for a winter hardtail frame and the Starling looks great - hopefully a kidney sale won't be needed to fund it!


 
Posted : 09/08/2021 11:04 am
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my mate was at Ard Rock and spoke to Joe from Starling (my mate has a murmur stainless steel).

It sounded like the hardtail was definitely on the cards. I suspect it will be in line with other 'gucci' UK frame builders prices.

But fingers crossed its a bit less pricey.


 
Posted : 09/08/2021 11:21 am
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Intrigued by CS/BB/ST junction. Looks like swingarm parts used which seems odd?

https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/21079915/


 
Posted : 09/08/2021 11:55 am
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I was trying to work that out too. I know the hardest bit to design on a modern hardtail is the BB:chainstays junction because you want loads of tyre and chainring clearance, torsional stiffness without harsh rigidity, and minimum weight. Is the extra tube, crossbrace and raised stays a lighter way to achieve this than a cast steel yoke?


 
Posted : 09/08/2021 12:07 pm
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*adds another one to the N+1 list*


 
Posted : 09/08/2021 12:17 pm
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That configuration of a high (ish) chainstay moves the chainstay away from the heavily congested area immediately behind the chainring where it's trapped between ring and tyre. It gets a little more clearance as the chainstay travels through the gap generated as the ring bends away from it's maximum diameter. The only downside I can see is the stay getting closer to the chain, especially in the higher gears, meaning more chain slap.

Not that I've discussed it with Joe but it looks like a tidy solution where other designs use plates in that area to slip between ring and tyre.


 
Posted : 09/08/2021 12:29 pm
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i saw this at Ard Rock.. it's a tube acting like a yoke.. all welded, but keeping the chainstays apart i guess.
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Posted : 09/08/2021 12:33 pm
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Intrigued by CS/BB/ST junction. Looks like swingarm parts used which seems odd?

Maybe just using existing components for ease of prototyping?


 
Posted : 09/08/2021 12:41 pm
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my guess its a bodge....


 
Posted : 09/08/2021 1:38 pm
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It looks very like my BLE in that area - probably same parts.

Which seems to work well, in that there’s good clearance for big tyres etc.

Edit: can’t be exactly the same parts if it’s stainless but you know what I mean…


 
Posted : 09/08/2021 3:05 pm