After some faffage over what bike on here, I started looking in earnest for a second hand option or two.
This then popped up in my FB feed last night, and by 10:30 this morning a deal was done.
It's 2 years old, but I'm told spent 18 months sat in Orange HQ as a display bike. Since then it's been ridden 5 times... Feels and looks new.
I said I wanted:
Geometry and handling above all else.
I think I want a shorter travel, maybe 120/130mm FS, but I do like a nice HT … ?
Decent damping – my current MoCo Yari’s annoy me, I think I prefer Fox cheaper dampers over cheaper RS dampers.
Decent brakes.
Durable & serviceable.
29er.
Don’t mind Deore level gears, they only wear out anyway.
Prefer Shimano.
Mission successful.
Here's my new bike:
And here is a comparative model. Note the similarities in design, colour, and fortunes of the company around the time of production:
If anyone is interested, it's an odd spec, but one I might have chosen myself:
Lyric Select & Deluxe Select
WTB ST i30 wheelset
MT5 brakes
Deore gears (will swap my nearly new SLX crank onto it).
Carbon bars (bx?) and Nukeproof stem (I might change for 10mm longer)
KS Lev Integra
Too wide an SDG saddle
2.4 Minion DHF/DHR
Lawn needs feeding
TBF, the condition of the tree is a worry too...
The colour is an acquired taste, certainly. But other than that; sweet bike bruh
The Princess (and ambassador) were actually good cars. The materials and build quality not so much. My 1st GFs dad had a princess, surprising amount of room on the back seat.... cough.
Great colour bike, I did like my five but it was always let down my the awful manitou swinger rear shock
Sick car. Bike looks ok too.
No squarcle handlebars, I’m oot.
The materials and build quality not so much.
Anyone else confused about this? So apart from the parts, and the way they were assembled, the car was good ?
not the colour I would have picked…but it’s the ride that counts. ?
That seems to be rocketdog's view on his inlaws',s car too....
I like that, looks stealthy. Enjoy.
That seems to be rocketdog’s view on his inlaws’,s car too….
Pmsl
The Princess (and ambassador) were actually good cars.
Do I win a prize for suggesting a Stage Evo on the other thread? Looks great and be interested to hear how it rides as I may be in the market for one.
Anyone else confused about this? So apart from the parts, and the way they were assembled, the car was good ?
Not sure how I can make it more simple to understand so I'll just repeat it in the hope you'll read it slowly and take it in or maybe ask a responsible adult to go through it with you in person....design was great for it's time, but the materials and build quality didn't match it, they are separate things you see.
See also series 3 land rovers from 73-75, great design for the purpose but LR used awful quality steel that led to premature corrosion.
It’s a great colour.
Ah ok. So the designs were great.
But the cars themselves were a bit shit
they are separate things you see.
Mm, quite clearly
I guess you could at least sit in them and console yourself with the fact that the car would have been good if someone different had assembled it....
...from materials other than the ones they had actually used
Nice bike, the light weight and simplicity do appeal to me...the 'hearing aid beige' colour not so much but wouldn't stop me. In fact my Squatch isn't that far off the same hue
Pebbles need grading and rearrange.
Loved my Stage Evo. Great choice!
Do I win a prize for suggesting a Stage Evo on the other thread?
I think you get something from the mods. Go chat to them. -----wink emoji-----
You did well if you got that for your budget!
I loved my segment but could never get the super short shock just so. These are very similar to the segment, with a longer shock. Bonus!
That’s great, I’d love to have a reason to get a short travel modern Orange but I don’t have enough time to ride the two bikes I own and neither of them are leaving so…
I’m normally a super bright colour person but I think that works in all its ‘70s dullness. 😉
It's a great colour
They’re awesome bikes that are far more capable than the travel numbers would suggest; I saw a French fella race last years Megavalanche on one.
You did well if you got that for your budget!
Well under budget, like not worth bothering with a new bike....and it came with £100 Burgtech pedals I don't want...
Life's too short, never mind.
@matt_outandabout that's an interesting colour, never actually seen that before. If you were the type into detailing your bike it would be a nightmare, you'd never know what was muck and what wasn't. On the flipside if you're not that person it's going to look much the same whether you clean it to within an inch of its life or just give it a splash with a hose. I approve on that basis.
Nice ?
Nice, tho I prefer the Austin Ambassador Y reg, a far superior vehicle.
I still have a massive soft spot for an Orange, colour looks great with the tanwalls.
Nice bike. I reckon the Burgtec pedals you don’t want would go well on my new bike which is coming this week 😉
Great stuff, I actually really like the colour! I have a grey one, its a great bike 🙂
Nice find! Seems like a great solution to your list of requirements.
I'm into the Princess chic too, although I reckon my Moxie in Allegro sludge is still even more peak British Leyland. I'd be prepared to concede though if you fitted an actual black vinyl 'roof' to your top tube...
You've got a few rides in now so how happy are you with the bike @matt_outandabout ? This thread led to me looking at the Orange website then the sale page and, well, a 2022 frame and shock for a bargain price now waiting for me to assemble. Hope they're good 🙂
I remember your what bike thread - and I reckon I probably recommended one of these too.
Honestly think it'll be perfect for you. I absolutely love mine:
You’ve got a few rides in now so how happy are you with the bike
Really enjoying it.
It feels like more than 120mm rear. The Lyric Select's are way, way better than my MoCo Yaris. The MT5's are really great feel - not as snappy as Shimano, but much better feel and good power. I need a narrower saddle, I've dainty butt bones.
I'm still upping rear pressure - at 25% sag it's too plush and bottoming out too much. I'm up to around 20% sag and it's getting better.
Tyres feel 'too much' for my level of riding, I'm wondering if something like XR4's or latest Nobby Nic's might suit me better, and not feel like velcro uphill...I also want a tougher rear carcass as I've pinch punctured already.
I remember the feeling of using the chain pull on the rear suspension to get the bike up and moving, and letting off brakes and pedalling on rougher stuff. The steering is needing more input from me, but I'm learning quickly. I feel I'm riding it on the fork a bit (like a hardtails), and that isn't a bad thing...
It's daaaaam fast.
I love my Stage Evo, and you are right, they are fast !!!!
I’m wondering if something like XR4’s or latest Nobby Nic’s might suit me better,
I have a couple of Bontrager XR4 29 x 2.4 Team Issue, Tan walls I'm not using if you are interested.
Really enjoying it.
Good to hear :-). Not sure Exo DHF and DHR are OTT for the bike but I do quite like the current Nobby Nic, I find it like a sort of mini Mary. I will be putting a Magic Mary on the front of mine with a Nobby Nic on the rear as a compromise on rolling speed v autumn slop having arrived around here.
It’s daaaaam fast.
Hope mine is too cos I'm not!
I'll drop you a pm
Y reg? Why Reg?
Nice colour! Not the first time Orange has looked to British Leyland for inspiration- a friend of mine had a Patriot in what could best be described as Allegro Gold.
I like the colour. I’m surprised that it was offered on a new bike, though. Any idea what orange called it?
Stage Evo LE .. .. simply fun from The Golfie to Gwydyr
I'm still settling in to a 29er, such voluminous tyres and being back on a full suspension bike....but blooming heck it's fast on the rocks at Comrie today.
The Lyric Select's are so much better than the Yari's I've got, and also seem much more eager to work than the Fox 36 grip of my son's bike.
The whole bike seems to have a slight flex which feels really good.
Lifting them off the rack I was struck by how much lighter my Stage Evo is compared to my son's Stumpjumper Comp Alloy - like a couple of kg lighter...
I'm a happy boy with it.
