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After my front wheel did its best Bob Dylan impersonation this morning ("Most Likely You Go Your Way and I'll go Mine") I need a something better than a Geax Saguro up front.

Got a Smorgsabord on the back, should I get another one of those, or a Chunky Monkey? Something else entirely?


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 10:01 am
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Your 'first'?

Are you planning more? ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 10:09 am
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Hans Dampf if you ride forests, something with bigger blocks, like a Der Baron, or High Roller, if your normal terrain is rocky...


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 10:12 am
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Yeah get the Monkey, great tyre.


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 10:16 am
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Blimey, I've yet to have the Saguaro wash out on the front of mine. They are VERY sensitive to pressures, especially the TNT carcass, and like surprisingly low psi up front.

I found the monkeys had less grip & more drag.


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 11:06 am
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Blimey, I've yet to have the Saguaro wash out on the front of mine. They are VERY sensitive to pressures, especially the TNT carcass, and like surprisingly low psi up front.

So I'm just a crap rider? ๐Ÿ™‚ That was my other thought. Always easier to throw money at a problem rather than refining my technique!

I'll try dropping the pressure next time out, But in the dry they were a great tyre, not so sure in the slimey mud


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 12:46 pm
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Panaracer Dart ftw
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Posted : 19/10/2013 2:58 pm
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i have been using wtb bronson and vigillante tyres tubless. very happy with them ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 4:23 pm
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So I'm just a crap rider? That was my other thought. Always easier to throw money at a problem rather than refining my technique!

TBH it's more likely I don't ride fast enough to push 'em to their limits ๐Ÿ˜ณ

I did find, however, that dropping front pressure from 35psi to around 26psi made a world of difference.


 
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Where do you ride?
What bike?
What is your 'riding style' do you have?
Is grip more important than speed?


 
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The Saguaro is a very fast rolling tyre and it's not very grippy in turns. More side knobbles help if it's muddy but with roots and rocks the amount of rubber contacting the ground is going to help, low pressures will really help.

As to not washing out a Saguaro on the front, in fact not washing out any mountain bike tyre on 50% of all corners you ride, what the hell are you doing? Stop mincing, get your arse off the saddle, lay the bike over, feel the drift, deal with it, straighten up and peddle your arse off. Get you fingers away from those brakes, grip the handlebars tight and scream, lose the frickin anorack and rucksack and get really, absurdly, fit.
Blimey, I despair.


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 7:22 pm
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I can highly recommend the hans dampf trailstar front / pacestar rear combo for pretty much any terrain, I run them at around 25psi tubeless & they're surprisingly grippy from wet rooty off camber surrey hills trails all the way to the opposite extreme of dry dusty rocky alpine stuff.
As is mentioned above stay off the brake! Dont panic and pull the front brake when the front wheel slides or you'll be on the floor before you know it!


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 7:25 pm
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The Saguaro is a very fast rolling tyre and it's not very grippy in turns. More side knobbles help if it's muddy but with roots and rocks the amount of rubber contacting the ground is going to help, low pressures will really help.

As to not washing out a Saguaro on the front, in fact not washing out any mountain bike tyre on 50% of all corners you ride, what the hell are you doing? Stop mincing, get your arse off the saddle, lay the bike over, feel the drift, deal with it, straighten up and peddle your arse off. Get you fingers away from those brakes, grip the handlebars tight and scream, lose the frickin anorack and rucksack and get really, absurdly, fit.
Blimey, I despair.

๐Ÿ˜€ I think we have a solution


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 7:54 pm
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The Saguaro is a very fast rolling tyre and it's not very grippy in turns. More side knobbles help if it's muddy but with roots and rocks the amount of rubber contacting the ground is going to help, low pressures will really help.

As to not washing out a Saguaro on the front, in fact not washing out any mountain bike tyre on 50% of all corners you ride, what the hell are you doing? Stop mincing, get your arse off the saddle, lay the bike over, feel the drift, deal with it, straighten up and peddle your arse off. Get you fingers away from those brakes, grip the handlebars tight and scream, lose the frickin anorack and rucksack and get really, absurdly, fit.
Blimey, I despair.

๐Ÿ˜€ I think we have a solution


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 7:57 pm
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Drifting is drifting, washing out, as far as I'm concerned, is when it goes away, completely & unannounced. If you bin it on at least 50% of corners then perhaps you're not the riding god you think you are.

Despair indeed.


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 8:06 pm
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Where do you ride?
What bike?
What is your 'riding style' do you have?
Is grip more important than speed?

Mainly ride on/around The Ridgeway so chalk, clay, gravel and rooty/loamy stuff

Bike's a Swift, set up singlespeed

Style is pretty much wheels on the ground blasting

Grip over speed for me I think, today's incident was going along in a straight line when the wheel went off on its own.


 
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Double post.

Again!


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 8:22 pm
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Meh!
Drifting, washing out, call it what you like, a good corner is one where you are sure you couldn't have gone round it much faster than you did.
Surely you love the feeling of the front tyre loosening, grabbing, loosening, snatching as you go round the corner right on the edge. Doesn't matter if you are in a field or plummeting down something scary; on the edge, is on the edge. (Literally on the edge is good. Get your arse off the saddle and lay down the bike, in fact put the saddle as far down as the frame allows, even better, cut a bit off seatpost and get it completely out the way. (You will need to get fit to ride for a few hours out the saddle on the climbs though :o)


 
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drofluf.
Respect for riding the Swift and joy to riding singlespeed. Both my play bike and now my racer have gone down this path simply because it feels lovely. Please don't be afraid of slidey tyres and all that. I rode small block 8's for the first part of one winter to teach me how to control slippery situations. If you get above the saddle, put your weight through your feet, keep your hands loose, stay flexible and pretend you are a fish swimming upstream (seriously), the bike will just coast through the craziest of situations.


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 8:30 pm
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Rollindoughnut

It may just be the Rioja but you're making sense!

Need to get out of my comfort zone, push my limits and go for it.

Thanks!


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 8:42 pm
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Please do.
I get exasperated when I see people hold themselves back through self-imposed limits. It's ok to get out of control a bit, hell a ride's not a ride without at least one scraped shin. Death or Glory (in a toned down middle class format of 'Minor injury or Sense of self worth') is the only way to go.


 
Posted : 19/10/2013 8:47 pm