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So I wear lycra these days, ride a hardtail with 'only' 100mm travel fork and I have bar ends. I had a fair few comments from wheezy chaps on massive bikes whilst riding around Dalby this weekend, comments such as 'It's not a road race', 'Ooh, look at King of the Mountain' and 'How can you ride around here on a hardtail?'

Now is it just me, are these chaps late to the party and feel that the must have 6" minimum, frt & rear, to get round a trail centre?

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Posted : 14/08/2012 10:48 am
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Nah, it's the image thing.

Since getting fitter and rediscovering my road bike, the legs were shaved and the lycra dug out from behind the baggies.

Although I rode my Duster in this morning (in baggies) I was pondering about whether a set of wide flat bars with bar ends may be in order - something quite nice about getting back to riding 'fast' rather than 'agressively'...

If you get my drift.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 10:51 am
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FAT MIDDLE AGED I.T GIT WARRIORS I TELL YA!

still its better to see them on there DH machines and baggy clothing, than see there beer/pot bellies popping out of lycra

im still sometimes tempted to just go out in lycra, im slim and tall but ride a five so i guess it would just look odd 🙁

im actually itching to just wear lycra....in the winter i sometimes do, but its dark then so doesnt bother people too much


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 10:52 am
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Generally speaking, were these fat t***s that were in baggies knocking the lycra? 😀


 
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It sounds like you met some arseholes.


 
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It sounds like you met some arseholes.
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I find riding about 5mm off their rear wheel on the downs gets the message across.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:04 am
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They're what you call, 'Trendy Cyclists'. They were probably scared of you knowing you were probably much faster on 90% of the trail.


 
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I find riding about 5mm off their rear wheel on the downs gets the message across.

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Especially when on a hardtail.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:08 am
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I ride round Afan wearing lycra (do I even own any proper baggies....?) topped off with a unpeaked helmet with a roadie cap underneath it, on either a 120mm hardtail or my very EuroJey XC full sus with flat bars and, yes, bar ends. Most other folks are armoured up on biggish bikes, can't say I've ever had any snide comments (at least not to my face).

Riding the CX bike round bits of White's Level does tend to provoke some comments, tho these are usually along the lines of 'are you insane'.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:12 am
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Ride what you're happy with in what you are comfy in. I'm way intomiddle-age and probably get laughed at in my baggy kit on my "trailbike".
Quite simply, I don't need to race and feel comfier in looser kit. If lycra felt right for me then I'd wear it, similarly if I hadn't invested to try a f/s bike I'm sure I'd still be content on my old Carrera hardtail. As it goes I'm happy as I am and don't really care what others think, but also stoked that folk want to get out and ride and enjoy it for what it is; fun.
Run what ya brung and stuff the smallminds.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:13 am
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Oh, I don't give a sh1t, just find it amusing. It's only banter at the end of the day, I think... :-/

LOL at the roadie cap for trail riding.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:17 am
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Did you see all those idiots at the Olympics last week? Most of them were on hardtails, they were all in Lycra, and some of them even had bars ends.. don't they know anything about riding off road?


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:19 am
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I commute with lycra and bar ends.
I also avoid trail centres.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:22 am
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Wear what you are happy with - sod everyone else!
I'm one of the overweight middle-aged men who picked up cycling in my mid-30's, I'm a fairly reasonable rider, and can normally get everywhere i want to go on a 100mm hardtail.
Quite where all the people I see at Swinley, etc are plannig to ride in body armour/neck braces/FF helmets is beyond me.
I did the Evans 'ride-it' event around Reading a few months back, nothing too tricky, in fact 90% of it I could have riden on my Hybrid, however there were plenty of people on 6" travel full-sussers with tonnes of armour...
I guess roadies are no different - I saw a fat middle aged man in full Team GB kit on Sunday, puffing away on about 5k worth of aero-roadbike..


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:23 am
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Lycra! Skinsuits and barends is where it's at!


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:24 am
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My first road bike will be arriving in a couple of weeks, its first ride will be done with me wearing full DH gear, Armour, FF lid, the works.

Cant wait for the funny looks 😀


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:26 am
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I find bar ends redundant on wider bars, and only really good for catching on stuff mid crash. I also find that on 100mm hardtail I'm quicker than most 99% of people I meet on the trails because I know the trails, but I generally choose to ride a 140mm bike as some of the stuff I do just too abusive to the wee bike.

As for lycra, well that's your choice and you're entitled to it. Personally I find it perverse to wear a costume that leaves so little to the imagination and shows no consideration to people who'd rather not have your bits thrust in their face 🙂

But each to their own, life is about choice.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:27 am
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Whether we are young, old, fast or slow, fat or athletic, we all have one thing in common - we look wrong in lycra, some females excluded.
It may look ok speeding along on the bike, but as soon as you step off the bike it's eye bleach time!


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:28 am
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Quite a few folk incensed by the comments you got for your clothing and bike choice, only to go on to have a wee poke at others who choose to wear baggies, armour and ride 160mm or whatever...
Just sayin'
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It may look ok speeding along on the bike, but as soon as you step off the bike [s]it's eye bleach time[/s] you look like a futuristic child molester .


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:31 am
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My Swiss mate rode all the red and black trails we did in the PdS on his vintage hardtail with 1.90 cheap chinese tyres, v-brakes, 80mm forks and bar ends. Dressed in Lycra of course. Some guy from a retro bike magazine shouted words of encouragement over to him in Linderets.

So who is the cool one, us on our 160mm FS or him on the vintage xc ht. It's all bikes ...


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:42 am
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So who is the cool one, us on our 160mm FS or him on the vintage xc ht. It's all bikes ...

The only way to settle that is to go to your local niteclub or disco and have a dance off, let the crowd decide.


 
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It may look ok speeding along on the bike, but as soon as you step off the bike [s]it's eye bleach time[/s] you look like a futuristic child molester .

At least it's a good way of putting off ,door to door types.

" Hello sir,can I interest you in ...."

Meanwhile ,inside their head ....
" holy **** ,may my God protect me from this apparition "


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:45 am
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At least it's a good way of putting off ,door to door types.

" Hello sir,can I interest you in ...."

Meanwhile ,inside their head ....
" you think this guy could have put some clothes on. Look at that little thing. Like a cocktail sausage and two marbles. I think it just moved... "


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 11:48 am
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I take it all back, damn that lycra **** is Dope. And by dope I mean cool.

[url=

cool in Lycra.[/url] - Is that you topov?


 
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Like a cocktail sausage and two marbles. I think it just moved...

🙂

Coffee. Nasal passages. Quick exit.


 
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Wear what you want, ride where you want! I'd rather be fit than fashionable.

F*ck 'em, f*ck 'em all... :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 12:04 pm
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Most of them were on hardtails

Yes this is true, however, the one who took the win did not.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 12:24 pm
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So I wear lycra these days, ride a hardtail with 'only' 100mm travel fork and I have bar ends. I had a fair few comments from wheezy chaps on massive bikes whilst riding around Dalby this weekend, comments such as 'It's not a road race', 'Ooh, look at King of the Mountain' and 'How can you ride around here on a hardtail?'

Really? Hmmmm..... When you say you wear lycra do you mean you were dressed in full gaudy team kit that colour co-ordinated with your bike, or maybe an actual king of the mountains jersey?

OP smells of troll to me TBH.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 12:36 pm
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No co-ordination at all, and no KoM jersey, I believe the KoM comment was due to said baggy wearing rider being overtaken on a hill.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 12:39 pm
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My HT Only has 100mm fork and Flat (wide) bars too but an XC whippet it isn't, nor is its rider.... I

suppose I fall somewhere between the two catagories, I like to cover some miles rather than just ride the same ~30sec sections of track all afternoon, but I also like riding the fun stuff but I'm not lugging about a 6" bouncer to do it... There is a '3rd way'.

Out of interest, were the comments meant as friendly banter or nasty bitchiness? what was their intent?

If the former thats sort of OK in my book, if the latter not really on IMO...


 
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I did the Evans 'ride-it' event around Reading a few months back, nothing too tricky, in fact 90% of it I could have riden on my Hybrid, however there were plenty of people on 6" travel full-sussers with tonnes of armour...

Blimey, I love the trails round here but gnarrrrly they ain't!


 
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So I wear baggies these days, ride a hardtail with a rigid fork and I have one gear. I had a fair few comments from wheezy chaps on hardtail bikes whilst riding around the woods this weekend, comments such as 'It's not a road race', 'Ooh, look at King of the Mountain' and 'How can you ride around here on a singlespeed?'

Now is it just me, are these chaps late to the party and feel that they must have 3" minimum, and gears, to get round a trail?

Discuss...


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 12:49 pm
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'How can you ride around here on a hardtail?'

Lol.. I'd have laughed out loud if anyone said that to me!

Quite where all the people I see at Swinley, etc are plannig to ride in body armour/neck braces/FF helmets is beyond me

Maybe to the jump spot - people do properly hurt themselves there from time to time.

And re armour in general, if you are old, fat, insecure and useless, armour helps you feel safer and enocurages you to do more stuff. Not much wrong with that is there?


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 12:57 pm
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When you are of the age to have used woolen cycle shorts with a real bit chammy(s?) leather you will know how brilliant lycra was when it came along. Even when it all went a bit bright on the colour front it was much better than before (if you had been a glam rocker there was little change). Now I could say that all this baggy stuff is for generous of proportion folk who don't want to put the miles our eat to much McSh.t but my (late at over 50) middle age spread is leading me towards this flappy apparel. However when it's out for a ride you can't beat a quality pair of bib shorts for keeping your tackle safe. If someone made a bib short baggy combo I'd take a look. Do always ride off road in those water proof baggies when it's wet, great for stopping the grit grinding into your a...hole.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 1:00 pm
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In the practice of tolerance, one's enemy is the best teacher.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 1:06 pm
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Nothing wrong with a Racing Snake look is there??

"is gulty of riding in Euskatel Kit on an XC hardtail"


 
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Moved to lycra last year and not going back to baggies.

Bibs are more comfortable, quicker drying, don't catch on the seat, don't rub your knees and don't flap in the wind.

Bar ends are very handy for climbing and shifting position when the aches and pains set in.

Get the occasional comment or smirk. Don't really care.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 1:07 pm
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Exactly, it was very hot the other day and the bibs were a God send, just can't wear baggies for long rides, baggies are an image only thing.


 
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baggies are an image only thing

Where do you put your keys?


 
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baggies are an image only thing

Where do you put your keys?

Camelbak regardless of if I'm in baggies or lycra.
Riding with keys in my pocket sounds v. uncomfortable.
But that might just be cos I have a lot of keys...


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 1:19 pm
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baggies are an image only thing

Can the same not be said about lycra when being worn by people who aren't going fast enough for any noticeable aerodynamic advantage?


 
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Camelbak regardless of if I'm in baggies or lycra.

And if you have no camelbak?


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 1:22 pm
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Riding with keys in my pocket sounds v. uncomfortable.
But that might just be cos I have a lot of keys...

I take off just my car key and it goes in a velcro pocket in my shorts.

OP, sorry but it sounds very much like some people out on the trails made some friendly jokey comments/banter, you took them the wrong way then bitchily/trollingly posted them up here making out the other riders were being unpleasant - meanwhile having a good sneer at people who choose different clothing/bike styles to you.

Sound pretty accurate?


 
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I clench them in my teeth.
Why would I have no camelbak if I'm planning on taking stuff with me?
Seat pack. Back pocket of my roadie/xc jersey. Gaffa taped to my top tube.
Anywhere but digging into my leg in a shorts pocket.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 1:26 pm
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There's nothing like a bit of unamusing banter for making people look like idiots...

Regarding baggies being an image only thing - I've yet to come across lycra that'll keep you dry for as long, be as warm in the wind whilst not being too warm in the heat, and prove as protective when you encounter foliage or crash. And if you don't bother with padding (I don't) and use synthetic stretchy boxers than you can cut down on the laundry when it isn't muddy. If you're wearing baggies over lycra on hot days then no wonder they're too hot!

Statements that "X is all about image" makes you look as blinkered and foolish as those you were ridiculing in your original post. It's never black and white, it's never simple, but forums thrive on such overtly biased views...


 
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OP, sorry but it sounds very much like some people out on the trails made some friendly jokey comments/banter, you took them the wrong way then bitchily/trollingly posted them up here making out the other riders were being unpleasant - meanwhile having a good sneer at people who choose different clothing/bike styles to you.

Sound pretty accurate?

Errr...no, where have I been bitchy? I already said I wasn't bothered and put it down to banter. Was just interested in others thoughts on these comments, but you had to make it personal didn't you. You sound like you're the one with the problem matey, to take it so seriously.


 
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But that might just be cos I have a lot of keys...

I have few keys for that very reason. Can't understand people who have massive agglomerations of metal weighing their trousers down.


 
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Statements that "X is all about image" makes you look as blinkered and foolish as those you were ridiculing in your original post. It's never black and white, it's never simple, but forums thrive on such overtly biased views...
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Agreed, I am massively hypocritical though, what can you do?


 
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Now is it just me, are these chaps late to the party and feel that the must have 6" minimum, frt & rear, to get round a trail centre?

baggies are an image only thing.

How is that not being bitchy?


 
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Agreed, I am massively hypocritical though, what can you do?

I gather there's a vacancy for a new 'big hitter' here...


 
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Now is it just me, are these chaps late to the party and feel that the must have 6" minimum, frt & rear, to get round a trail centre?
How is that not being bitchy?

Nope, still can't see how that's bitchy.


 
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But that might just be cos I have a lot of keys...

I have few keys for that very reason. Can't understand people who have massive agglomerations of metal weighing their trousers down.

I have a lot of doors I need to open...
As an aside I actually suffered from a broken car key earlier in the year - thankfully I still had my house keys on me and not in the car, so I could get inside my house and get my spare.
So now, all my keys come with me.


 
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Does it really matter...? Wear what you like and feel comfortable in. I used to wear Lycra all the time back in the day but moved to baggy shorts as I find them more comfortable and understated. However, I still sometimes wear full thermal roubaix bibtights in the winter if that is what comes to hand or water-resistant 3/4 bibs under waterproof 3/4 baggies - shock horror!

If you have a 6" full suspension bike and wear Lycra or prefer baggies and a xc orientated hardtail - who really cares. Just get out and ride your bike! All this Lycra is for the serious rider or only fit for roadies or baggy clothing is only for middle aged fat people is rubbish and really lazy - as are all the repeated derogatory comment about people who ride fully rigid or hardtails not being "hardcore" or people riding 6" trailbikes needing "skill compensators"...

The only people who we should be feeling negative towards are the overly judgemental, rude, inconsiderate and outright aggressive.


 
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I have front door key, garage bike lock key, mobile bike lock key and garage door opener on mine. The car key fob thing is separate - that's all I have.


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 1:47 pm
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Nope, still can't see how that's bitchy.

So what was actually the point of your OP exactly?


 
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I commute with lycra and bar ends.
I also avoid trail centres.

Graham you live in a shed in the woods, so that's to be expected! 🙂


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 2:09 pm
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i'm being bitchy, people lard about in baggies because they are to rotund for lycra. I have this knowledge from personal exeriance. Take note of it if your partner buys tou some baggies and suggests your TT skin suit no longer suits you.

(edit) what's happened to the big hitters then? As mentioned above.


 
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Lycra! Skinsuits and barends is where it's at!

Ermm I actually wore one of my club skinsuits [url= http://app.strava.com/rides/18442724 ]in today[/url] :?. I shall be doing our club 10 TT tonight on't HT (sans bar ends) but the skinsuit only came out as didn't have any clean shorts. - It'll make sod all difference to my time tonight


 
Posted : 14/08/2012 4:14 pm