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Anyone know the story with Thibaut Pinot? Having a pop at the mechanic, refusing a team mates' bike when he had another, what was the issue?
From what I saw he was understandably frustrated by the puncture and got angry it took so long to get a wheel. Then he dumped all the toys out of his pram.
He threw a strop. Apparently one of his mechs wasn't working, battery had worked loose. Probably blamed the mechanic, thinking it wasn't charged up.
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mikesmith - Pinot now looking for his toys
LOLZ!
mrblobby - Sean Kelly: Pinot "creating a scene"
😛 Wish I'd heard that, I can hear him saying it in my head!
What a stage!!! Brutal* but absolutely beautiful!
I seen the "Chris Froome" thread way way earlier (about 16:00 FFS!) and instantly feared the worst, when he was doing the elbow dance with the Katusha rider I reckon my heart stopped for a good 3 seconds... I'd convinced myself he'd been taken out of the race but managed to stay away from Facebook/here/the Internet from then and have just watched the highlights.
Brilliant show by the GC guys and awesome to see Nibali attacking (Swooons!), this race ain't over yet!
Anyone seen the weather for tomorrow? I'm hoping for some echelontastic racing again!
Tony Martin in yellow with one of the best wins of the year, perfect!
*Not Roubaix but close enough.
[quote=monkeyfudger ]Anyone seen the weather for tomorrow? I'm hoping for some echelontastic racing again!
Ooh, strong crosswinds? Just what we were after!
Stage 4 results, pavë, pavë, pavë!
1: Team Nitey Nite Burners, DS David Galloway on 491 points
2: Team Almost real biking, DS Greg Bowie on 481 points
3: Team Durham Dynamo, DS Rich Harper on 470 points
In the GC battle:
1: Team Durham Dynamo, DS Rich Harper on 1296 points
2: Team Raleigh banana, DS Chris chaddock on 1281 points
3: Team Michael Flatley Quick Step, DS Scandal42 on 1246 points
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Not a fan of changing bikes, as you might be able to gather. If you're changing bikes for an advantage, you deserve to be attacked.
Those were exactly my thoughts. The only reason they are changing bikes is to gain an advantage so attacks are fair imo. Mind you, I think it's fair to attack when riders puncture or have a mechanical so my thinking may be skewed! My thinking is something like... a puncture or mechanical is often because a team is trying to gain an advantage through their kit eg if Froome's rear shock had snapped yesterday should he expect other teams to wait for him?
Sean Kelly yesterday was amusingly disparaging about riders who have 'started' Paris-Roubaix. Basically just because they started and climbed off before the first cobbles..
Damn, just seen the pics of Dowsett's injury. Looks pretty nasty considering he is a haemophiliac.
Anyone know the story with Thibaut Pinot? Having a pop at the mechanic, refusing a team mates' bike when he had another, what was the issue?
I like Pinot but his head went the day before when his team mate crashed horrifically right in front of him (a bit like his descending a year or 2 ago). Apparently it was an electronic shifter issue not a puncture, which is why he took it out on the helper (not a mechanic, probably a student getting a free FDJ jersey out of it...) as new wheels were no use to him. By then though he was looking for excuses, his body language showed he'd given up as he threw a tantrum (I should know, I've thrown a few...) and Tony Martin showed how effective you could be on a team mates bike...
Hope he pulls himself together in time for the mountains, if he's way off GC he could be fighting for summit finish stage wins.
Loose Di2 connector if you believe the reports
He didn't have a mega tantrum, more a mini tantrum 😀 More than understandable given everything that has happened so far and the insane pressure put on him as France's big hope. To do well in a Grand Tour you need everything to go your way almost every day. The stress and pressure can only build with every little mishap, be it of his own making or a mechs fault. A Cavendish said, it isn't a computer game
The general rule seems to be: attack or at least carry on if it's an "in race" fault or incident but don't attack if it's because of external issues like someone throwing carpet tacks on the route as happened with Cadel Evans a couple of years ago.
It's not in "the rules" but is more a gentleman's agreement between the riders.
Sometimes there just isn't enough risk in Pro Cycling so lets spice things up 😯
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Flag marshall nipped off for a fag?
A couple of questions relating to the Eurosport footage-
1) Are the Alpecin adverts a sort of joke?
2) Who gave Sean Kelly a talking serum??? Last time I watched the footage he was essentially asleep in a corner and would only give a gruff sentence if prompted.
Greipal is fast this year but what a late surge from Sagan.
So, is it that the outright sprinters are fat lardarses this year, or are the likes of Sagan, Cancellara getting faster? 😆 Terrible leadout by EQS btw.
The Alpecin adverts look like dubbed German ones, or at least filming the same sequence in multiple languages.
I'm not sure how sophisticated the average German advert is these days. My experience consists of Alpecin, Focus "Bikes from Germany!" and Bora extractor fans.
On board footage of today's big crash
Gripel is one ugly mother...
Question for those who've tried *proper* disc race bikes....
Do you think the type of crash like that today will me more or less likely (or maybe no change) if the peleton does adopt discs?
The crash looked to be caused by the front wheel slipping out under braking (also happened for several following riders) rather than a touch of wheels. It got me wondering if discs might make this type of crash more likely (more power so easier to lock on greasy roads)... but then I started to think discs might actually decrease the chance of a crash like today if there is more modulation on hand vs grabbing a handful of brake on the current setups???
Genuine question as I've not ridden let alone raced on some of these greasy Euro roads and haven't tried a proper roadie disc setup either. Just curious that's all, I don't intend to derail the thread with a massive philosophical debate on the rule changes 😀
Some crappy amateur Go Pro...
DanW dont think it would change anything, people will still panic and grab a handful.
those roads looked horrific. Riders falling off all over the place as soon as they touched the brakes as if they were on sheet ice. 😯
Stage 5, headwinds and slippery tarmac.
Stage honours to:
1: Team Alan`s Deep Bath, DS Andy, with 440 points
2: Team Michael Flatley Quick Step, DS Scandal42, with 417 points
3: Team Puncture Repair Kit, DS Chomp, with 394 points
In the GC race:
1. Team Durham Dynamo, DS Rich Harper, with 1682 points
2: Team Michael Flatley Quick Step, DS Scandal42, with 1663 points
3: Team Alan`s Deep Bath, DS Andy, with 1549 points
Ref discs, it'll probably be about the same but maybe (big maybe) less. Carbon rims can bea handful, they're much worse in the wet for not working until cleared of water than alu and then get grabby as ****, the initial pull on the brakes is grabby in the dry too, you've got to be careful with them, hard when it's crashy!
Carbon rims can bea handful, they're much worse in the wet for not working until cleared of water than alu and then get grabby as ****, the initial pull on the brakes is grabby in the dry too, you've got to be careful with them, hard when it's crashy!
I think this it ^^^^, nothing to do with French roads being ultra-slippery or panic braking.
Interesting that Cavendish also chose the old Venge over the new one as he didn't trust the brakes on yesterday's stage.
Those new aero brakes are obviously working well...
I read this on CyclingTips in the comments section, I'm taking this as gospel 😛
I heard he does not like the brakes on the new Venge. Will not use it when it is wet or in the mountains.
woo hoo - my first TDF Fantasy podium 🙂
Cav tweeted that he didn't like the brakes on the new bike but this seems to have been removed now. Straight from the horses mouth 😀 Sagan was also on the old Venge and Cancellara didn't ride the new Madone once. Sometimes racers like what they know and a cynic would say that the hype around these bikes is more for the Freds like us that believe the small details matter 😉
Stage 6, cyclocross's rock, bottles are thrown, and who'd want a yellow jumper?
Honours today go to:
1: Team Almost real biking, DS Greg Bowie, on 338 points
2: Team i`m off to boat jail for a good sleep, DS spawnofyorkshire on 325 points
3: Team BikeSoup World Racing, DS Paddy Atkinson on 297 points
In the GC:
1: Team Durham Dynamo, DS Rich Harper, on 1942 points
2: Team Almost real biking, DS Greg Bowie, on 1823 points
3: Team Alan`s Deep Bath, DS Andy, on 1779 points