Not knowing **** all about them its sounds like a bargain to me !
Series III Lightweight 1980, petrol 2.286 litre, 12 months MOT. 6 months tax.
Soft top, NATO green, 24 volt. In reasonable condition but has been standing – needs a bit of tidying up and some TLC. Engine has recently been replaced – she starts and runs well. The seats have also been replaced making her slightly more comfortable to drive.
£1,250 ono
Ooo, an old Land Rover with a petrol engine, just what you need as the price of petrol rises.
😉
'Puddle jumpers' (Lightweight LRs) are great fun to drive off-road though.
Heavy on fuel and uncomfortable on long journeys, especially motorway driving.
Great vehicles if your going to use them off road regularly. Otherwise why do you need one?
I have a neighbor who has had 3 in 12 months, they seem to be as addictive as crack.
PuddleJumper with LPG conversion...nice!
With the 2.3 petrol? May as well just set light to a few fivers!
OK for fun or work but not as a day to day vehicle.
I don't know for certain, but I don't think they have power steering and might be normally aspirated.
as a hobby or weekend vehicle, fine, but you'll have to really love it to use it every day as main transport.
much as I like Land Rovers, I wouldn't have one as it is miles from what I need in a car. Fortunately I have one at work, a great big 130 at that, which is used as intended.
I live in the sticks, ride to work...
Its ideal for getting upto the village and taking the dogs out for walks.....
None of the lightweights I've ever driven have had power steering.
Remember to keep those thumbs outside the wheel when driving off road, less the wheel flick back and crack one.
Get it! who cares about the price of petrol? Old Landrovers are great fun. (I had a 3.9 petrol Rangie....now that was expensive to run....but worth every penny!
Anyone any idea what tax and insurance is like on these ? I would only do very limited miles in it.
Would you pay tax on something that old?
Insurance could vary a lot...depending on age and previous history...
has it got a snorkel though... needs a snorkel... but I guess as its petrol it would drown anyway.
Would you pay tax on something that old?
Yes. Only vehicles registered before 1 January 1973 get free VED.
Rather similar in many ways to owning an Alfa. I've owned both 🙂
Horribly uncomfy, noisy, use loads of petrol (my 2.5Petrol used to do 15mpg I think).
Have a yearning again. It doesn't have to make sense.
Check the chassis very carefully for holes and the bulkhead is narrower than a standard Series 3 (from memory?)so if it's knackered/rusty will require a bit of metalwork rather than outright replacement. Sounds pretty good otherwise
Have a look on some landy forums for common problems, I'm more up to date with newer models problems, but if it looks good at that age then it probably is. If you take it for a drive make sure that all teh gearbox functions work.
I've always wanted one, and have been in loads, there dog slow (with std engines, unless it's V8) very uncomfortable (we used to travel from burm to London everyday for 6 months in one - very very uncomfortable), break constantly (everything, especially if you go off road).
I love the look and still want one, though I'll never have the spare cash to afford one.
When I was 17 (20 years ago) I went to a local farmer and asked what his experinces of Landy's were, he said buy a Toyota Hi-Lux! (for all of the reasons above)
crawl under it and see if the chassis is sound. if it is and you still want it then swap your GT85 for WD40!
oh and ask here: http://forum.difflock.com/
Was in a defender offroad over the w/e, had to dig it out twice on Sunday when stuck in big ruts 🙂
buy a Toyota Hi-Lux!
Yes if you want reliability and cheap running costs...
If not, get the landy. You will regret it and spend a fortune on it, but you will love it more than your family....
my first car was a 1959 series II
perfect for a learner (no powersteering, drum brakes without servos, steered like a barge in treacle!) but it had a full canvas tilt - and was to me way cooller than all of the VW's that my mates had
totally impractical, costly to run etc. but if you want one, and get use to driving slower than everyone else (but with a bigger grin)
I've got a Series III ,1973 2 1/4 petrol engine .It's great fun ,chuck dogs /bike in the back ,after off roading jet wash it outside AND inside !
Fully comp insurance is £88 this year ( yes £88 ) ,tax is £185 --I missed exemption by 10 months ,oh well .
There are loads of forums ,make sure chassis is ok ,but you can buy replacement ones /part chassis replacement .
Mine is pretty original and I paid £1100 18 months ago .
You won't believe how much fun you can have off road at 15mph or less ,although on road the driving experience is akin to steering a boat !
Wrong in every way. My mate was a farm manager and had one free as part of the job but he never drove it anywhere except off road because he said it was the worse vehicle he had ever driven on the road. I borrowed it because I needed a tow bar and he was right.
Adrian Flux is cheap for insurance - classic car, limited mileage.
As has said before, chassis and bulkhead are the main issues. Check bulkhead with a screwdriver - particularly around the corners and door hinges. Check chassis with a ball hammer. Don't worry too much about the outriggers they can be replaced relatively easily.
As for the engine, let it get warm and check the oil pressure light - may be a dodgey sensor or may be that it needs a new half engine.
Simmonites are good for parts alt.fan.landrover used to be the place to hang out forum wise.
You may as well go for it, because if you don't get on with it, you will get your money back.
My old money pit - gone but not forgotten 🙁
[url= http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2326/2355427070_919d8f30d0.jp g" target="_blank">
....oh and if you want to be really silly. This is the answer:
[img] 
[/img]
sounds fine for what use you'll give it
a landy with an MoT is worth a grand as a starting point usually
obviously not that quick or refined, but it will get you a to b
as for the jap stuff, it's better on road, but it's off-road where we use these things and the jap trucks just haven't cut it, no point having all these luxuries if we have to leave the vehicle at the bottom of the site
I had a '62 series IIA. Dont buy one unless you love diy. It's never over with a Rover. Parts are super cheap fom Paddocks. I used mine to tow a tipping trailer to the peat hill to collect winter fuel. It could go virtually anywhere. Had green water over the wings without a snorkel, floor panels werent screwed down and had a sinking feeling, but made it through. I swapped the petrol engine for a Perkins 4203 tractor engine. Max torque at 1200 rpm.
Replaced it with a Discovery which was ok but rusted like hell. Bought a cheap Shogun a couple of years ago for trailer towing duties, its been very good too.
I'd love another series IIA though. I was up on Speyide last week and saw an original unrestored '62. The same as mine with oxidized matt grey paint, a perfect bulkhead and chassis. 23k on the clock. The owner inherited it from his father. Been on a highland estate all its life. A peach.
I suppose its an itch everyone who was a young boy has to scratch (why does that read wrong?!).
I'd say go for it- if the replacement engine isnt a snotter.
I drove a mates- cramped driving position, wallowing like crazy (felt like I was turning a ship through a swell), noisy etc.
Still.
I've owned several. I still love them but don't currently own one.
All Landrovers will cost a lot to run:- Money or time, your choice
Older ones (60's and 70's) are slow but have a real charm when you drive them
More modern ones (80's 90's) are much more civilised
I've never owned a recent one but friends Disco's are like modern cars but will still cost a fortune to run.
Buy one. Drive it till your an addict or fed up. Restore it or sell it. You won't regret it. (No guarantees given or implied)
It [u]will[/u] rust, or worse electrolitically disappear.
They're thirsty, slow and handle, well, like a 30-year old ex-military vehicle. The roofs leak and the heater is a joke. Every journey is an adventure: in the "what will my Alfa do today" vein.
It [u]will[/u] cost a fortune.
They are so unbelievably endearing though. Want one. That or a 101 radio van.
Do it!
Seems a good price for an Airportable, but they are money pits. If the bulkhead is crusty, ecpect to spend lots on fixing it, as 'normal' Landy ones don't fit. All the specific body panels for the lightweight are hard to find, running gear is cheap as chips. Bear in mind the 24v electrics on that one too.
The 'lightweight' is fun as hell to drive off road, or in the summer with the ragtop and doors off, but it's slow, noisy and thirsty. Driving it is like taking a labrador puppy for a walk, it's all over the road thanks to it's short wheelbase and cart springs. No power steering in any of them either. If you're set on a lightweight, look around, definately don't buy the first you see. If it's been standing take extra care inspecting the bulkhead, chassis and check the fuel tanks for leaks, they are pricey and model specific. most of the running gear epert from driveshafts and some suspension and breal parts are 'normal' series, so easy to get and cheap to boot. Dutch army 'lightweights' are deisel, so a bit cheaper to run although not by much! It's a bit like owning a splitscreen VW, more of a love affair kind of thing rather than a genuinely useful type of vehicle. They are a peice of wee to look after other than welding though, clutch change on my own took 3 hours, without dropping the engine.
Just replaced my S3 lightweight with a 90 2.5td. Still thirsty, noisy and slow but a bit more useable and still only cost me a grand.
If it's your first Landy I'd say look at a 'normal' S2a or S3, there will be hundreds at that sort of price. Avoid ex military, simply because you'll pay a premium over civvy stuff. I was lucky with my 90, the owner didn't know it was mil, even with the pioneer tool fittings on the back door and the military ID plate!
how about an orange rover?
[img] 
[/img]
[img] 
[/img]
Had a 95 300 tdi 90 , always problems and motorways were painfull , but i still loved it and miss it , best as a toy
"what will my Alfa do today"
Kinda disagree. Not sure on Brants own experience but apart from electric's and the servicing/cambelts needing to be done religiously the Alfas arent a hit and miss vehicle- talking to some owners on a Alfa/Piston head forum.
(I fancy a GTV)
Not sure on Brants own experience but apart from electric's and the servicing/cambelts needing to be done religiously the Alfas arent a hit and miss vehicle- talking to some owners on a Alfa/Piston head forum.
Of course enthusiasts always paint a great picture of their vehicle. And you are looking through Rosso Red coloured glasses.
Don't get me wrong - I'm loathed to drive another brand, and have owned a 75, 145, 147, GTV*, 156 Sportwagon*. But they've all been far more of a nightmare than any other car I've owned. Cutting out, pricey servicing (head off, regulator, cam belt, etc every 30,000).
Love 'em to bits though.
* Still got in various states of repair.
The only thing that stops me running a Landy is the constant fear of it getting nicked.
The bloody things go walkies quicker than high-end mountain bikes in Bristol.
156 Sportswagon just looks 'right'. As a saloon it looks like a pig with its nose in the trough. As a sportswagon though it looks soo right.
156s are pretty reliable so long as ze pesky germans assembled their bits properly (the engine bay loooms supplied by bosch were occasionally prone to pyrotechnics.) S2 sportwagons are drop dead gorgeous.
I'd love a 75. One of the nurburgring taxi companies use them to great effect against 911s, M5s and Ferraris.
I'd love a 75.
I am terribly tempted to get another. But it's stupid.
So I probably will.
Brera. [b][u]I DONT CARE[/u][/b] if a TT is quicker in a straight line. Who gives a fig.
A box of these and a Brera + 😀
[img] 
[/img]
Found this. Sorry for the hijack!
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/gt-1965-1974/45524-alfa-romeo-1300-gt-junior-1968-prima-serie-2.html
I am taking a look this weekend 😀
It will have to have some major problems for me not to buy it.....
and insurance will be £98 ! 😀
Considering my current policy is just under £500, thats a large chuck of the Landy paid for !
no thats a large chunk to put towards you first repair bill..
M8's running round in a lightweight with the top down at the moment, I'm sooooo jealous
Cars always seem to end up costing the earth though dont they ?
Since I have been commuting every day since christmas I can now afford to get something which is inpractical, costly and unreliable, but FUN !
With another nipper on the way I need to get all the silly stuff brought before baby clothes/equipment take all my money 😉
And my six year old lad with be blown away with his Dad having a "proper army jeep" as he calls them.
As a Land Rover owner, can I just raise the security issue again in case it was overlooked.
Landies go missing A LOT. If it's not securely garaged, invest in some additional quality security (not a £15.99 steering wheel bar from the local garage) or your new purchase won't be around long enough for you to enjoy it.
I live away/hidden from the road, in the sticks so not too concerned.
But point taken. It will be boxed in by other cars and surrounded by a 6 foot high fence with a large dog wandering around.....
Hopefully that's enough, what sort of device are you thinking ? Alarm or something more physical....
I sound like I'm scare mongering now, but it's not limited to the inner city. It's not joyriders or casual theft, rather they're being specifically targeted as they shift easily. It would take you about 2 hours to strip a Landy down to it's component parts, and there's always a big market for cheap Landy bits.
You get reports of 15 or more going from areas like Derbyshire in one night. In one night 3 went missing from the same farm out this way a few months back. Through two locked gates, across two fields and away.
God bless ebay.
Diskloks are about as good as anything - the proper branded ones that enclose the wheel. Best thing to do is have a search over all the Land Rover forums for security, and see what they're doing.
Generally the best security is just keeping it out of sight, and not advertising it's presence.
Don't want to sound such a doom monger, I just want to stop you suffering the same issue I did a few year ago, when my new pride and joy lasted 3 weeks outside the house before it was goneski.
The theft risk is the only reason I don't have one as a daily driver any more.
Be careful. Someone pinched my tdi 90 stw a few years back. Middle of the day from a car park in the centre of a market town. I eventually bought a td5 110 stw, but I was constantly wary.
I sold the 110 and bought an estate car as a daily driver and I'm building a series 1 for tatting around in at the weekends. It'll stay in a garage.
I still get the urge for a lightweight or similar for daily use, something that looks scruffy so does not attract attention and you don't need to worry about it getting knocked about, but with decent mechanicals.
If someone nicks my series 3 I'll just jog alongside and catch them up . Err then I'll assess the situation ...
yes my landy was pinched at xmas along with about 20 others by a group operating in south yorkshire area. It was taken away on the back of a low loader apprentley . doors locks can be opened with any spoon. Try National Farmers Union for insureance.
Place I work has had them nicked, particularly with a fleet of newer lr, 130 is quite a target, people are now put off but the large quantity of shite we keep in it, took a day and a half to empty at the last lease change over
Otherwise, easy method adopted on some of our kit is to have some convenient wires you can seperate in the ignition circuit to prevent starting.
quads are a nightmare, when on the edge of Plymouth it was clamped to the floor, chained to the tractor and locked in a shed, 20 foot from the house.
If that engines a bit rough, bear in mind that you can pick up a V8 engine cheap as chips and do a conversion. It's probably cheaper to do that than buy a runner with a rough body, and more fun 😀
Of course enthusiasts always paint a great picture of their vehicle. And you are looking through Rosso Red coloured glasses.Don't get me wrong - I'm loathed to drive another brand, and have owned a 75, 145, 147, GTV*, 156 Sportwagon*. But they've all been far more of a nightmare than any other car I've owned. Cutting out, pricey servicing (head off, regulator, cam belt, etc every 30,000).
Love 'em to bits though.
* Still got in various states of repair.
Funnily, Subaru Foresters are supposed to be 'bombproof'/solid as etc however my electric window went 'thunk' this morning and refused to raise again. garage think its probably going to be a new window motor and lots of lovely labour.
Found this. Sorry for the hijack!
I think I need a lie down. Dribble....
Breras - I so very very nearly bought a 2.4SV in Miseano blue when I got my current job. Sadly I do far too many miles and logic dictated that bangernomics had to kick in: the maleria's cost 2.5k over three years and 100000 miles, a Brera would literally have cost ten times as much.
I know but if you HAD TO play over a automotive car that wasnt extortinote what would you chose?... Beemer? No. Audi? **** off.... Alfa? hmmm GT? No- 147/156 interior.... 159 interior? ......stroke abit harder....that rump?.....stop it...no stop....corr..
Yep- rum night and dinner guests in the next room....naughtiness alround.
Unless you are a farmer or something like that its hard to find a logical, hard headed economic reason for owning a Land Rover. BUT that's not the point of Land Rovers. You will either hate it and get rid of it at the first possible opportunity or get hooked like one of the previous posters said. Be warned that they can take over your life, many LR owners don't just have one, they have whole collections. I've driven most of them over the years and owned quite a few, I'm down to a fairly sensible two now, one of which is the daily drive. Your social like can become LR centred as well, you know that's happened when the high point of your year is Old Sodbury's Sortout.
Most LR people are friendly and supportive of fellow addicts, try looking at www.difflock.com for an idea.
Im not even old enough to drive and I still enjoyed Sodbury!!
Quote "Im not even old enough to drive and I still enjoyed Sodbury!! "
Says it all
swamp_boy - Member
Unless you are a farmer or something like that its hard to find a logical, hard headed economic reason for owning a Land Rover. BUT that's not the point of Land Rovers. You will either hate it and get rid of it at the first possible opportunity or get hooked...
Too true! Bit like riding a SingleSpeed really 😉
I've not been without a Land Rover of some sort or other for nearly thirty years. I've trialled them, raced them, rebuilt them. Oldest was a '55 Series 1 (think rigid ss), currently have a Ninety td5 (think full sus xc).
Old Sodbury Sortout, never been the same since the Old Sod moved it from from Old Sodbury 🙁 Needs must though.