[Closed] Landlords being a c***

did your housemate let him in? also is it in the contract that you're not allowed bikes inside?

He's got to give notice if he wants to visit, can't just turn up.

(I know landlords treat the law with impunity however).

Landlord cannot enter your room/house without 24 hours notice, unless specified otherwise in your contract. Tell him you're off to seek advice from CAB, he might change his mind about the bikes

he's now said i cant have any bikes in my room.

Ask him to have that written into the contract 🙂 Contrary to his belief, he does NOT have the right to tell you that. Well, there might be clauses in the contract, you'd have to have a look at it closely, but I'd imagine it would be impossible to actually dictate what you kept inside providing no problems were caused.

And yes, he should provide notice before entering your house, unless it's an emergency. 24hrs IIRC. If he gets shirty about the bike thing, get some advice from CAB or a relevant forum. Try not to let it stress you out, just be assertive about your rights.

Tell him you'll take them out of your room when he provides some secure lockable storage outside the house.

tell him you're not happy that he hasn't provided a shed, or a garage to put them in
or a games room
or dancing girls on tap

Its in my contract that he has to give 24hrs.... I said to him, next time, I want to know when he is coming.

And no, I dont think anyone was in, plus my room has a seperate lock anyway.

He was saying to keep one bike in the shed ( i live in a bit of a crap area, and i'm not leaving anything in there...). Apparantly i only need one bike anyway. Um, no - i need my road bike, bmx, hardtail and full sus, and yes, i want instant access to all of them.

Allthough, dancing girls on tap. I'll let him know about them as well.

If he saw the state of that steerer you had on the forks of the part seembled bike on the last STW peaks ramble I expect his eyes were as offended as mine !!! 🙂

Although the landlord had no right to enter the premises at the time - it would seem better not to antagonise the landlord.
If I were the landlord I wouldn't be happy with the storage of bicycles inside the house. It would just seem to be going against reasonable care of my property.

Time to find somewhere else to live.

Sounds like Burgarly to me

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burglary
Scroll to "Common Law Definition"
point 1 - Breaking and Entering

Maybe a Police Officer would like to Clarify

What did he break to get in?

I agree that not giving the notice is bad on his part. As for the bikes well as long as it is not specifically noted in the lease that you can't keep bikes in the house then you've got the right to quiet enjoyment. As long as you don't cause damage to the property keeping in the house then the Landlord has no grounds to dictate where you keep them. Even if you do damage the property the Landlord's redress is monies out of the security deposit and/or county court.

As far as i'm aware, should he just turn up and expect to be let in, you have the legal right to tell him to come back when he has arranged a time.
It's a bit of a minefield, this area of things and, you can do what you like in the house really, as long as it's in the same condition when you move out, he can't moan.
If he does it again, tell him to bugger off and give notice, it's not on at all, and he knows it.

Is your deposit held by a third party BTW?

Move out. Tell him that something has gone missing from your room and ask who else has access...

Ok I'll announce my bias, I have some rented houses and have been a landlord for nearly 10 years now. Let me tell you that I am the kind of guy who likes to sleep well at night. So my houses are all up to spec legally/safety etc. I am careful not to cross any lines as tenants rights are pretty well enshrined and landlords go to prison for what some would consider to to be just behaviour..

He has to repeatedly enter your house/room and at wierd times or do funny things, despite you telling him not to, for it to be something you can act on. Just once is not enough. There isn't any way of enforcing that aspect of your contract unless he starts taking the p*ss..

In any case if you are on a shared/joint assured shorthold tenancy and he knocked on the front door, and someone someone else let him in, then its not a breach of anything, he can then go anywhere in the house..

If its a HMO or you are on a single contract for your room then he can enter the shared areas with no notice whatsoever, and then has to ask about each room.

Having said that if its annoying you then write to him telling him you value your privacy and he needs to give you notice if he wants to come in again.

Mine are shared AST. I frequently rock up at any of my houses and knock on the door asking if I can come in as I want to see/have a chat fix something. Perfectly ok if the tenant agrees to let me in.

Sometimes (not in recent memory) a tenant will say no you cant come in.That's their right, so I cannot come. I go home print a letter and come round 24 hrs or so later.

Mostly my tenants are pleased to see me as they want a shelf putting up, help setting up their broadband router or some small thing fixed.

The only time a tenant stopped me from entering a property/ room was years ago when a girl in one room was selling sex and drugs (duuno about the rock and roll).

I personally would start to be very suspicous if a tenant made a point of making me give notice, and would probably start carrying out weekly inspections with 24 hrs notice at 8am...

But what most landlords and tenants don't realise is that if you explicitly do not give your consent, they cannot actually enter a house against your will. despite 24 hrs notice. So if I give you notice and you write back saying no, then I cant enter the property. Thats an extreme example because if you repeatedly refused access to a landlord who isn't misbehaving, he can quickly get a court order to enter the property to inspect etc...

Ok next to the bikes. I effing hate bikes in my houses (despite what I do at home). my houses are well painted and have nice floors and bikes lead to damage and dirt. You may well be captain clean, and maybe you could persuade me to let you keep them in there, but I would be taking regular fotos to document any damage/mess, bike related would not pass as wear and tear.

But again this is really about lack of knowledge or how ballsy you are, because unless your landlord can prove that you are damaging your property then there is eff all he can do about it. Apart from giving you legit notice to move out when your contract ends etc..

If you are damaging the property (needs to be badly, but this is unlikely) then he can have you evicted and chase you for remedial works and maybe loss of rent.

My advice would be to either sort out some outside storage, maybe you can persuade the landlord to do something about it, but he doesn't have to. He would be a fool not to, I have bike rings on the outer walls so people don't have an excuse to bring their bikes indoors.

Or you could just front him out and carry on doing it, like I said he can really do much about it, as long as you pay the rent and keep your end up he would be a fool to evict you if you dont give him too much hassle otherwise. I like a quiet life me, I would try and use landlord speak to get you to keep the bikes elsewhere, but if your good otherwise I have to accept it and just sting the living daylights out of you to put things right from your deposit at the end. ..

sorry for the ramble, I'm a bottle and half of vino into friday night. email in profile if you want more advice. I will happily chat on the fone..

So just buy some of those big bike covers to zip them up into, or as has been suggested before on here, get some king-size mattress plastic covers and use them for the same purpose - then they won't damage anything.

dave_rudabar - Member

So just buy some of those big bike covers to zip them up into, or as has been suggested before on here, get some king-size mattress plastic covers and use them for the same purpose - then they won't damage anything.

And then he cant really do anything about it apart from giving you legal notice to quit when your contract ends. Just make sure you don't leave tyre marks on the walls when you bring your bike in and out so he cant raid your deposit. Take loads of detailed fotos - use a newspaper in shot to date them.

Also are you on the tenancy deposit scheme?

In response to Mark N Lard..." Sounds like Burglary to me "

The landlord's actions don't amount to burglary (in England and Wales) as defined in the theft act of 1968.

Would the landlord allow you to put up a metal bicycle store in the yard? What about one of these: ://www.trimetals.co.uk/bicycle-storage.php ? It would be far better than putting them in the average garden shed. I've not yet been to a burglary where the offenders have broken in to one of these.

tell him to **** off

jules.b, I'm new here, i take it you are a member of the constabulary? I would be keen on installing those babies in my houses. Are they really that good?

I had to rebuild the garden wall on one of my houses which was the one with the bike ring on it, lo and effing behold they nicked this girls bike while it didn't have anything to lock to. Muggins here forked out for a new bike for her, lucky it was only a 129.99 halfords POS..

Toys19 - I think they are good enough to deter most casual theives [i] if they are kept locked.[/i] It might be difficult in "multi occupancy dwellings" to ensure that they are kept locked.