[Closed] Jones Plus Vs Susp fork 29+ (broken scaphoid)

Speak to keep pedalling, don't know much about the plus, but the spaceframes could take a fat tyre, may be an avenue to look down.

There's plenty of Jones riders to give advice.

I suspect the answer is yes to a suspension fork. Jones geometry is great whilst plus and fat at lower pressures provide some comfort but not a patch on a suspension fork, particularly when you hit larger bumps; bigger roots, holes etc at higher speeds. You could put the Jones bars on a bike with suspension if the bar angle works, just use a longer stem to suit. Or ride smoother terrain but I suspect that will become frustrating pretty quickly.

Ive got clicky wrists which sometimes give me grief and I find I have less discomfort on my Jones than on a full suspension bike - I think it's a combination of weight distribution and bar angle - loop bars are very sensitive to set up though so worth playing with stem angle, length and bar angle

And fat fronts are ace....

I have a almost fused right wrist, with no backward flex at all and only a few degrees forward. ride a jones plus too, with jones bars.
they are the only bars I can ride with for any length of time.
15 psi in front and back tyres, esi grips and jones loops make for a comfy ride.

A mate here is having to sell his Jones as he suffers from long term arm pain as a result of riding it. He's having to go back to a more "normal" bar/riding position. It's a real shame as he lives it and is very technically capable on it.

Fat 26 front will fit the truss forks but won't add all that much shock absorption. I found it did make the bike a bit ponderous and preferred mine with the 29+ front.
I sold mine last year and bought a Merida big trail (27.5+ with 120mm forks) and it's much better for my riding. Quite long reach on it and a teeny stem, so you could quite easily add a 60mm stem and fit loop bars without affecting the handling.
I never particularly got on with the loop bars, found they had too much angle. Also have a look at Salsa bars they do bars with more bend than normal without being as extreme as Jones loops.

It would be a shame to get rid of your Jones.
Just a thought,ask on here if any one would let you try their Jones with a set of Jones carbon bars.I am told they really take the sting out of bumpy trails.

hi everyone, thanks so much for your replies.
nice to hear from some wrist sufferers.

after the pain i put myself in I had to go and see a surgeon and was alarmed to find my only solution will be a total wrist fusion, very scary. however i have a lot of motion right now considering a 20 year old injury and was even told not treating it was not such a crazy idea because i would have had less range than now,

however i am scared of just making them so much worse riding the bike.

@gotama, exactly what i'm thinking/fearing.

@ton, very sorry to hear about your wrist but it gives me hope when you're still riding with such reduced motion.

@pop larkin, great to hear your tried and tested experience is matching my (hopeful) assumptions about balancing weight distribution against shock absorption etc.

The awesome keep pedalling sent me a couple of old stems to try out and coming down to a 60mm stem transformed it, made all the bar positions make more sense, I've studied loads of peoples rigs online and my downward angle is similar to theirs, no ones running 4 spacers like me though and i'm only 6'2".
I'm pretty flexible and road road bikes, i have a theory about pressure down onthe bars will damp the bounce of the front wheel.
related to this: I'm trying to work out if high bars are the 'be-all' because the angle my arms approach the bars seems to work better then steep than flat. I put some ergons on that shops my wrist dropping.

riding with wrist braces right now.
i'm in the west country for the weekend so going to try some easy stuff in the quantocks with the kids and see what happens.

fingers crossed.

thanks again.

Another Jones+ rider with a ****ed wrist (limited motion, two plates and a screw in the scaphoid). When I smashed my wrist in the first place I thought I might never be able to ride my 29er Spaceframe again.

Not sure what you were riding before but getting used to a rigid bike, even the Jones takes time. While getting the bar angle and height right is important learning not to grip the bars tight, especially when the going gets rough, is crucial.

@martinh

do you have any pointers reg bar setup on the jones bikes?
i'm on a plus, i'm 6'2 but seem to have more spacers than any photos online, i have a short stem 60mm and bars raked back a little.
i rode trails yesterday and certainly much less pain today than before, i've ended up with ergons on the bars to keep my wrist from sagging behind the bar.

Strengthen your core as well - helps keep the weight off your wrist

Plate in my wrist after a similar accident. Suspensions helps, but I also ride rigid carbon forks with Ergon grips and A neutral unbent wrist. I sometimes add a support and I rode with a snowboard guard for a year.

70mm stem and just 10mm of spacers if I recall correctly.

Bars angled down at an angle that i can only describe as feeling about right. Bar height isn't what keeps you weight of your hands. In fact there are plenty of times when you need be able to get low. I think it has more to do with seat angle and as Ton said, core strength. I dont use ergons as I have never found my wrists wanting to drop below the level of the bars with an H or loop bar. If anything in can keep a straighter hand/arm line with them than with a less angled bar.

Martinh

You're dead right, I'd been running the bars too high, taking Jeff's sitting up thing too far, I noticed I was way forward when actually riding properly my arms were too loose and not damping the front end, with one spacer and a more raked bar suddenly I'm in a much better place without sore wrists so far. Got rid of the ergons because I noticed my hands didn't really want to be where the grips were, I hope I can make this work with the esi now the overall fit is working properly.

Carbon bars have definitely made a difference

Just started riding again after a bone graft on my wrist (non-union scaphoid), went from a rigid 29er to a 650b Plus with 120mm front forks, wrist feel a lot better for it, carbon alt bars as well helped.

Good to see you better sorted

ESi's on my loops after initially going with Ergons. Totally different after

FYI 6'3" 25" Jones Plus 70 stem, no spacer (and I normally struggle to get bars high enough on any other bike)

thanks again guys

saying it was 'sorted' was premature, just had a week of pain after a not especially rough ride.
its taken me til now to realise i might not be getting on with these Jones bars!

time for a 20 quid experiment with some easton risers.