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[Closed] Issue 72 - Relaunch - NOW IN MAGARCHIVE

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Perhaps reveiw isn't the right word as it doesn't have to be the standard 'test' of something new as I'm not after What Mountain Bike level of lots of bikes but little substance. There is a limit to how many bikes you can test both physically and within the format of ST. But there are lots of folks out there in STW who are either respected or just get on with riding and enjoy themselves, that for one reason or another ride a particuar bike. As much as I like a bike test it can sometimes feel that journalists are living in a different cycling world to the rest of us.


 
Posted : 08/03/2012 10:02 am
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And when will it be available as digital copy please?


 
Posted : 08/03/2012 2:20 pm
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Tuesday for Digital


 
Posted : 08/03/2012 2:30 pm
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Probably been answered somewhere but if I get a digi subscription can I have multiple copies of the mag on different gadgets? I have a kindle, an iPod touch and pc/laptop. The kindle doesn't do justice to the excellent photographs but is usefully portable for reading wherever the chance occurs.


 
Posted : 10/03/2012 11:42 am
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Yes.

You have free access to the mag archive. As many downloads of as many issues as you like

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Posted : 10/03/2012 12:45 pm
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Excellent. Thanks for the swift reply - sub on its way!


 
Posted : 10/03/2012 12:56 pm
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Done. Take one off your walk in purchasers and add one to the subscriber list 😀

Great mag by the way.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 3:16 pm
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Welcome to the club 🙂


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 3:21 pm
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Mark - Resident Grumpy
Tuesday for Digital

Which Tuesday?


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 4:10 pm
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This one by the looks 🙂


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 4:11 pm
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New layout looks good 🙂

Didn't want to spoil the arrival of the paper copy so haven't read it in detail.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 6:17 pm
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I was EALLY going to try to not look at the digital copy until I'd got the "real" one. But I failed miserably. I have to admit that I am not a fan of the digital copies though they have their uses. I much prefer a magazine. Still there certainly looks as though there is a lot of content in the new issue. Really want to get my hands on the proper thing though.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 9:12 pm
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My copy has just arrived in the post!


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 9:59 am
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Maybe a question for the management. What electronic formats are going to be supported? I see .pdf and flip in the archive, I'm guessing kindle and epub are on their way? Not everything in the archive is in the same formats, what is the intention for the future?

Is there a summary of the pros and cons of each format anywhere?


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 12:20 pm
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ePub is on my desktop now. Just adding the cover image and should be ready in an hour or so. Same for Kindle (.mobi).

Some of our older issues were produced with an older version of the Pageflip software we use. We are working our way back and upgrading them all.

ePub versions work best on Apple devices in iBooks but also other eBook readers for Android phones and tablets.

.Mobi is the Kindle format and works on Kindles and all devices running Kindle app software.

PDF works well on tablets running a PDF reader app. iBooks again is great at viewing PDFs although it still doesn't run Double page Spreads, which is a bugger since we like running images across two pages. There are other PDF reader apps available that display DPS well. iBooks is free though and it also allows you to switch from PDF to ePub very easily as it stores both.

The pageflip version is best used on desktops, laptops etc. It uses Flash so it is not great on Apple devices although it does run a stripped down HTML5 version on Apple devices, but it's not great.

There is a third party App in the App store that delivers a really nice version of the mag. At the moment that's a separate purchase although we are working on integrating that into our existing subscription package via this website. That should be sorted for the next issue.


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 12:39 pm
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Thanks. Personally I don't have anything apple for now, or maybe ever. My tablet is a playbook (it was a bargain) and I know there are plenty of others with Android tablets and phones so please don't get too much of an apple bias.

That range of formats is great though, I will select a reader for my niche device.


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 1:04 pm
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ePub version is now there.

Kindle version next


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 2:12 pm
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and now we have the Kindle version for you 🙂


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 4:26 pm
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Mine arrived today. Fairly damaged - the cover seems quite susceptible. Nothing major, but lots of surface marks on front and back.

Just had a quick flick through - looks meaty. Plenty of nice photos for inspiration. Still looks like Singletrack. Should be good!


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 6:22 pm
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Will download tonight - Any recommendations for best way to use on android tablets? PDF in eBook is good but it sometimes locks up on the big photo pages; (As an aside how come some issues are 40Mb and others 80Mb or more?) Adobe reader manages the photos but is not as nice to browse as it just scrolls top to bottom.


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 7:25 pm
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Alex Simon +1

Mine has also arrived quite beat up, old version was much more Royal Mail proof it would seem.

Looking forward to having a read through it to see whats new.


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 9:15 pm
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I have just downloaded Issue 72 to Bookman to read on the i Pad. A quick flick through and I am more than happy with the contents, both written and pictorial. However, I am a little disappointed that the e format has not changed. I find it hard to read without constantly zooming in to a page, which then loses the flow of text and pictures.

If e publishing is going to be the future then I recommend a look at some of the more innovative e versions of magazines that are currently around, rather than those that just reproduce their paper mag in a PDF. Can I suggest the ST editorial team take a look at Motorsport magazine. Not for the content, but for the layout. The font is all of a god size and scrolls vertically or horizontally whilst maintaining the masthead for that page or section. Multi page articles also scroll vertically. This allows you to move on quickly if you don't want to read an article there and then without having to flick through the whole piece. Like ST good photography is important and there is the opportunity to zoom in on photographs and lose or gain text. There is even embedded video.

I am not waving the banner for Motorsport here as I am much, much more interested in the content of ST; I can afford a mid-range Cannondale but not a mid-range historic Aston Martin. But, as I say, the ST editorial team may want to take a look for some inspiration as to how to move the magazine onto the next level.


 
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Had a flick through the flippy pages e-version yesterday and it looked ace. Actually seemed much more readable as an online version than I remembered from trying one ages ago.

Paper copy arrived today with no damage. It's currently sat on top of issues 1, 2, 3 and 4.


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 9:59 pm
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Angus,

Agree entirely. Replica mags are not the future of epublishing. You will be glad to hear we are already on it 🙂


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 11:23 pm
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First flick through and I like it. Cleaner and more considered. Good effort.


 
Posted : 15/03/2012 9:36 am
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Mark
Good to hear. Thanks for the response.
Angus


 
Posted : 15/03/2012 11:18 am
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Mine landed yesterday.

Loving the layout and the meatiness of it all.

Only concern as mentioned above - the front cover seems susceptible to damage in the post. The old one was much better. It's good to have the nice clean covers, but not when they're covered in scuffs.

Oh, and the smaller logo looks as though it's floating around not knowing where it should be - better a bit more in the corner. IMHO of course.


 
Posted : 15/03/2012 1:10 pm
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Just finished work, sat in the back of The Polished Knob reading the new issue with a pint and a packet of crisps.

It's ace - inspiring, well written, nicer to read, great photos, excellent balance of articles and looks like it should take a couple of hours of solid reading.

Nice to see some cheaper pedals in the grouptest. Was considering cancelling after some of the comments regarding the lights test - those of us with less cash still need recommendations and tests of gear we can actually aspire to own.


 
Posted : 15/03/2012 5:53 pm
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I like ST mag, but after my subscription runs out, i can't see me paying £6 for it. In the current economical climate, i think you are taking a huge gamble putting the price up that much. Good luck though....


 
Posted : 15/03/2012 10:41 pm
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It's only £3.75 per issue if you subscribe 🙂


 
Posted : 15/03/2012 11:18 pm
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anthemrules - so why not continue your subscription then and effectively pay £4.30 odd?


 
Posted : 16/03/2012 8:37 am
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Good point speaker2animals. TBH i think there is something missing from the content for me at the moment. Don't ask me what it is, cos i don't know. I like to watch XC racing, so maybe a bit of coverage on that.... ? I dont buy any of the other MTB mags as they are too mainstream. I do like the new fitness articles though.... 🙂
I think more articles on the Cape Epic/Trans Rockies/ Trans Alps/ Trans Fats would make it more complete for myself.


 
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Had a good read last night. Very impressed with readability (black writing on white makes it look sort of spacious and easy to read as opposed to white on black or - shudder - writing on a photo). Articles are well balanced over subjects and held my interest.

A review of saddles (hint) would be nice as I'm thinking about getting a new one 😀

Or you could do a monthly review of training guides (e.g. AQR/UKBikeSkills or something similar).

Size is also good, sort of between old Singletrack and "The Ride" so easier to hold.

A lot of thought and work has gone into the new mag, and I hope it pays off. I'm now moving to a print sub as opposed to a digital one. 😀


 
Posted : 16/03/2012 10:26 am
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Only concern as mentioned above - the front cover seems susceptible to damage in the post. The old one was much better. It's good to have the nice clean covers, but not when they're covered in scuffs.

I think the cover will age gracefully. The glossy cover sort of went tatty round the edges, while scuffs look kind of classy and antique.

Nice to see some cheaper pedals in the grouptest. Was considering cancelling after some of the comments regarding the lights test - those of us with less cash still need recommendations and tests of gear we can actually aspire to own.

I must be even lower down the bike-cash scale, as I thought the flat pedals were all expensive ones 🙂


 
Posted : 16/03/2012 10:41 am
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I read mine in the bath, so electronic versions are not so necessary to me, though for a long trip abroad I might well download a couple of copies.

If I'm honest, the much-vaunted increase in paper quality isn't a huge benefit. It's a magazine, not a book - I don't expect to have to treat it in the same way, and the fact that it won't lie open flat is a bit of a PITA. For me, it’s an additional cost which brings absolutely no benefit whatsoever, though I admit that I may well be in the minority here.

For a relaunch issue, I was expecting a little more in terms of content. Perhaps that's unreasonable, but the 'dream bikes' section seemed like the sort of filler you'd expect to see in a slow month, and had no place in what should have been a top-of-your-game issue. To add to this, the standard of photography was extremely variable - as ever, some was stunning (Wet, Wet, Wet really captured the gloomy mood, and the fatbike pictures on the beach were just lovely), but others (particularly the Cannondale Fulcrum on) just had me scratching my head, perplexed.

The fatbike feature really stood out for me. As a hitherto 'haterz' (that's what da kidz say, right?) of these clumsy beasts, this article proved to be something of a Damascene moment for me, because I [i]really[/i] want to ride one now.

Oh, and on a design point – PLEASE stop putting full stops in your titles. It’s not clever, and it looks amateurish. And if you are going to do it, at least do it consistently.


 
Posted : 16/03/2012 2:37 pm
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Can someone point me in the direction of the gpx route for Preseli hills in issue 72? Ta. Click on the link for singletrack com/gps Get to a redirect to mag archive then back to square one. Am I missing something?


 
Posted : 17/03/2012 9:22 am
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I bought an iPad today, and have just downloaded issue 72 in high res (always used low res on my phone). It's the nuts. The photography looks magnificent in HD. Good stuff people.


 
Posted : 17/03/2012 5:49 pm
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I like it, subscription ahoy...


 
Posted : 17/03/2012 9:19 pm
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I can report that the print stays on the paper better than the previous editions's glossy print when reading in the bath - no more wet thumb smears :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 18/03/2012 9:01 am
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Having purchased the new issue i am suitably impressed. Will i continue to buy it after the price hike? Not sure but then im a casual buyer rather than a subscriber.

Can't really moan about the price, i have been known to blindly purchase Wax Poetics and that clocks in at about a tenner - just seems to be the way magazines are going


 
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Its a bit too nice to read on the long drop


 
Posted : 18/03/2012 9:21 pm
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As a US subscriber, mine arrived on Friday.

I liked the old magazine and IMO it wasn't broken, but I was curious to see the new version. I guess that I like the new format; it reminds me a bit of the new Switchback magazine, but it weighs at least 3x as much! I like the cover shot, but the fact that it wraps around the spine and back cover is of little interest to me. I'd rather have the Title, Issue #, Date, etc. on the spine I think. This issue has a nice mix of articles; the weather here was unseasonably beautiful this weekend so I haven't read many of them yet!

The new size is very similar to most US magazines; the old was much taller. I really don't have a preference either way. The paper in the old mag was already a better grade than most other magazines, so going to an even heavier grade makes me worried that the added weight will make overseas subscriptions prohibitively expensive though.

I too noticed some minor creasing of the pages inside. It was most noticeable on the large photos. My guess is that it was not shipping damage, but a printing problem. I say this as both covers arrived in pristine shape and were perfectly smooth, but many pages inside were slightly creased. Definitely a First World Problem!!!

I'm looking forward to the next issue.


 
Posted : 19/03/2012 4:25 am
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Loving this issue, but the jury's still out on the paper. Since the bath is the most common spot for my ST reading, having an issue that (a) is not too heavy to hold and (b) can be folded back on itself easily is quite an advantage. Content is the priority though, and I'm pleased to say that has improved recently. Good on you


 
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I think this new version is what I think the Mag should always have been.

I've always been a casual buyer influenced by content rather than "must have" syndrome. Last year I think I bought 6 Mags, for some reason I just didn't come across it in WHS so bought, amongst other things, Privater and have just spotted a new American MTB version of "peloton" which looks interesting..

But what draws me to STW is the content, most of your features are an excellent read, funny, inspiring, witty, in depth and some just silly. This is what I like, I'm not a huge fan of tests TBH, whats right for one is wrong for another but when you test you seem to add some human element into it. Last months "privater race bikes" was excellent and has to be said a huge "whooop" for including girls in the test, well done you.

I'm a big fan of the travel features, whether they be local or adventure trail stuff, I just love reading about others adventures and route guidance inclusion is fab.

So what with the price increase imminent I still think I'll buy STW, can't really say the extra few pence is going to make that much difference TBH.

Keep the content and I'll keep buying.


 
Posted : 20/03/2012 9:21 am
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I've been a fan and occasional buyer since the outset and was bought a subscription last year (which is just about to run out).

I'm in my late 30s. It seems to me that the magazine is getting a bit middle-aged bloke. It might be that I'm in denial about getting older, but for one reason or another the mag isn't speaking to me any more.

Hats off to you for the brave visual/tactile changes to the magazine (which I think are a big improvement). For me though it's the content that's failing to engage. I'm not interested in pretend vicars, tea shops, child rearing and bike riding on the other side of the world - all delivered in a matey style.

I might take an online subscription as I do appreciate skills, technical equipment and ride information.


 
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