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We've just started selling these bags. As resident cycling expert I will be asked who they are.
I've not got a clue. So over to you....[img] [/img]


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 10:33 am
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Fausto Coppi bottom right?


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 10:35 am
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is the swiss guy Moser?


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 10:37 am
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looks like a world champs race, riders wearing team kit.
2 at the back are English I reckon.


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 10:38 am
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[quote=MrSmith ]is the swiss guy Moser?

Moser is Italian 🙂


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 10:39 am
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No Helmets! Tandem Jermey?


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 10:39 am
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Moser is Italian

maybe he lived near the border 😆


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 10:41 am
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[quote=ton ]looks like a world champs race, riders wearing team kit.
2 at the back are English I reckon.

...or a 50s TdF with national teams, and British!

Was thinking Koblet or Kubler for the Swiss guy, but not sure it actually looks like either.


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 10:42 am
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70's or early 80's I reckon.
bloke with the tash looks like a young Malcolm Elliot, but it isn't.


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 10:44 am
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I reckon it's from the 70s with that 'tache. Didn't see a lot of pro riders with facial topiary in the 60s or before


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 10:46 am
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+1 for a Tour back when they were national teams rather than comercial ones.

Flag doesn't look british (no St Patricks Saltaire)? Norway (but theirs isnt symetrical)?


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 10:47 am
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Er, which one has the tash? I think you're seeing a shadow...

Kit certainly isn't 70s - you'll not see bar mounted bottles and tubs round shoulders from that era.


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 10:49 am
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tinas - flag certainly has diagonals, and I can't think of another flag apart from GB which has those, certainly not one belonging to a country with racing cyclists in that era.

Still haven't come up with any matches though.


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 10:52 am
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The Swiss one on the left ist Hugo Koblet.
You can distinguish Kübler/Koblet by their nose - Küblers is more, well, eagle-like ...


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 10:59 am
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Brian Robinson ?


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 11:02 am
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Tony Hoare poss on the left and BR on the right?


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 11:04 am
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I thought Brian Robinson, but I'm now thinking the one without the hat might be Vin Denson

Cool as flip

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Posted : 16/01/2014 11:09 am
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*throws nerd hat into ring*

Swiss guy is Hugo Koblet

Brits are Brian Robinson (left) & Dave Bedwell (right)

Looks like the 1955 TDF

*Awaits slap-down from even bigger nerd*


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 11:10 am
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You're all picking the obvious names - I'm not sure either of those chaps looks like TH or BR. For reference if anybody else wants to search, the 1955 GB TdF team was David Bedwell, Tony Hoar, Stan Jones, Fred Krebs, Bob Maitland, Bernard Pusey, Brian Robinson, Ian Steel, Bev Wood (I got a TdF history book for Xmas!)


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 11:11 am
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Jean Claude Gret for the swiss rider?


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 11:13 am
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Yep good shout on koblet


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 11:15 am
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If it is Koblet, can I point out that I mentioned him first 8)


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 11:22 am
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60's i reckon.


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 11:30 am
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Wondered if the brits might of been Tommy Simpson or Brian Robinson, but didn't think the riders looked like either of them. So no idea.


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 11:32 am
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Koblet died in 1964 if that helps to narrow it down a bit 🙂


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 11:36 am
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deffo late 50's/early 60's. wingnuts on wheels, pockets on jerseys.


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 11:37 am
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My money is now on right hand chap being Fred Krebs
http://www.tour-racing.co.uk/html/fred_krebs.html


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 11:41 am
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Almost certainly British team in 1955 TdF. Later British teams had the national flag on the shoulders in the shape of a shield (due to sponsorship by Viking I think).


 
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Koblet did not enter the 1955 TdF - so it's not the 1955 Tour.

He did however race with a British-Swiss team in the 1956 Vuelta, so it might be that.


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 11:45 am
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1955 Tour. http://www.tour-racing.co.uk/html/1955_tour_de_france.html
Otto Meili is 78
Dave Bedwell is number 31
Second British rider looks like Stan Jones


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 12:32 pm
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Only decent pic I can find of Meili and it looks right - well done, I did think people were making the mistake of only thinking of big names

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...won't hotlink http://www.cyclingarchives.com/coureurfiche.php?coureurid=27814


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 12:41 pm
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Well in all honesty, he does have a number on his back 😆 . Could be a 79 as well, but I think not. And the two team series numbers match the 1955 tour. It was GB's first entry, so of photographic note. Bedwell is definitely the RHS GB rider. Stan Jones is proving elusive, so it may also be Tony Hoar, who has a very thin facial structure.

Tony Hoar
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Posted : 16/01/2014 12:47 pm
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Ken Mitchell on left?

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Posted : 16/01/2014 12:48 pm
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Looks a good call, but no glasses on the original. Nice video from Tony Hoar here

, who of course was Lantern Rouge, and that in itself is noteworthy for a photo.

In the video Tony says that if he gained any places, all the riders below him quit to keep an Englishman as Lantern Rouge 😆 .


 
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[quote=TiRed ]Looks a good call, but no glasses on the original.

I was fairly sure there are and had only given up on that idea when I couldn't find a pic of any of the TdF team I had listed wearing them (the book I have misses out Mitchell). Hence the excitement at finding pics of Mitchell!


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 1:13 pm
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Fair enough, and I can't see a lantern on the back. What do we win? A bag?


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 1:14 pm
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What do we win?
I think you're currently leader in the 'Anorak Of The Year (Road)' award, so that would be the coveted Cagoule Jaune.


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 1:30 pm
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A win is a win 😉


 
Posted : 16/01/2014 1:36 pm
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This photo was not from the Tour of Britain or Peace Race.These are amateur riders as defined then. It was probably from the 1952 world championships. I would guess that the English riders were Des Robinson on the left and Graham Vines on the right. The Swiss rider is likely Rolf Graf.


 
Posted : 14/05/2014 7:46 pm
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Why don't you ask the person you licensed the photo from?


 
Posted : 14/05/2014 10:08 pm
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The company we buy the bags from don't know .
To be fair they probably don't care either, they're just olde fashioned cyclists.
Normally their bags feature pugs sitting on deck chairs.


 
Posted : 14/05/2014 10:17 pm
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Er, whilst singletrack attracts a special audience isn't 'who are these champions of the road' the purview of some other forum?


 
Posted : 14/05/2014 11:14 pm
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Good shout TiRed. Don't have a clue without a bit of a Google.
I do know that by 1960 they still all wore National jerseys, but had sponsorship across them, so definitely 1950's as there is no trade names.

The oldest guy I ride with was a pro about then for Holdsworth and rode for Gt Britain he would probably just know.


 
Posted : 15/05/2014 6:04 am