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[Closed] I think I killed my Pegasus 🙁

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chilterns flint, flicked up by front wheel...gutted. There's a small crack in the middle of that dent 😥

any thoughts on a repair or is it only good for hanging on the wall?

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Posted : 02/04/2011 3:18 pm
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Looks like a house insurance claim to me, bit too close to BB unless you could get a gusset manufactured and welded on to strengthen it?


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 3:21 pm
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Ouch. Claim if you can. I think I'd keep riding it for now if not and keep an eye on it.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 3:28 pm
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Are those frames steel/alu/ti? I would be shocked if some sort of repair wan't possible.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 3:28 pm
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If you've contents insurance which covers accidental damage away from home that'd be the way to go. Otherwise I'd get it welded and keep an eye on it.

Or make it into a nice set of windchimes?


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 3:29 pm
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Or be sensible and contact Pegasus and see what they say!


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 3:32 pm
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I'd contact Singular. If they say it's safe, then keep riding it. I reckon it's fine, from those pictures.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 3:36 pm
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yeah I've dropped Sam an email for some advice. It's a Ti frame. Unfortunately my home insurance isn't going to cover it 🙁


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 3:36 pm
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Titanium (shreaks) I though they were supposed to be bomb proof. Glad I never dropped a whole ton of money on a Ti frame now. Ah well if it is dead at least it died doing what it liked doing best...


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 3:40 pm
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It wasn't the frame's fault, the flint hit it HARD. I've had lots of rocks bounce off this frame before, but this one was particularly bad luck. If I have to replace it, it'll be with another Ti frame (preferably a Pegasus!).


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 3:42 pm
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Hopefully you can get a new downtube fitted back at the factory ?


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 3:47 pm
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Hopefully you can get a new downtube fitted back at the factory ?

yes I'm thinking that too, depending on the cost/time I suppose. Gotta be cheaper than a new Ti frame though you'd think.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 3:49 pm
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not going to soap overnight, but if it really is cracked you'd think it would propogate.

Replacing a tube is very time consuming, no matter what someone who can't tell what material it's made out of says!


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 4:14 pm
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yeah I'm most likely going to ride it in the meantime & keep an eye on the crack, but I'd also expect it to propogate. Will see how next week goes, and HONC on Sunday.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 4:19 pm
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Where abouts are you? ... I know a few folks who could repair that.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 4:33 pm
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I might be tempted to drill a tiny hole either end of the crack to stop it propagating. I'd still be keeping a close eye on it mind.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 4:55 pm
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bit of silver gaffa tape and it'l be reet 😉


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 5:03 pm
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Stuart, I'm in Oxfordshire. Drilling into the frame is a bit too scary for me 🙂


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 5:11 pm
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lucky it wern't ally.

certain death.

I'm sure Sam will do all he can to help,he's a top chap.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 5:11 pm
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House insurance? There's quite often a 'no sports equipment in use' clause..... 🙁


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 5:35 pm
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yeah sadly I've checked & no accidental damage away from home on our policy. Used to have it last year but forgot to add it when we changed provider. oops.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 5:37 pm
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Im sure thats repairable. Ive got a guy whose doing some work on a Ti frame for me. He does a lot of work in Ti for F1 and race bikes. He's in Walsall so email me if you want his details.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 5:41 pm
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Bloke I know is in the High Peak, if you want his details let me know.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 5:46 pm
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I'd ride it!


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 5:48 pm
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I'd send that back to the factory then have a nice trip out to Italy to pick it up when they've replaced the downtube.

They might even give you a tour of the factory and a nice polo shirt when you collect it. 😉 's @ KOS


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 6:32 pm
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ssu, there's a bonza idea, is the polo shirt worth it? 🙂

Sam's gotten back to me in his customary quick fashion. He's gonna check with Nevi for me. In the meantime yes I think I'll just ride it. Thanks Stuart, High Peak is a way away but I'll grab details from you if Nevi doesn't work out or make financial sense.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 6:48 pm
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there's a bonza idea, is the polo shirt worth it?

KOS Loved the tour and free shirt so i'd have to agree with him and say yes it is. 8)


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 6:52 pm
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if you have no luck with Nevi i can recommend Enigma Bikes
not a factory tour but you can look round the workshop 😀
http://www.enigmabikes.com/


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 7:02 pm
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ah yes cheers, Enigma would definitely be an option too


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 7:13 pm
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drill a tiny hole either end of the crack to stop it propagating.

that'll be 'fun' with Ti!


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 7:21 pm
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horible news, must have been hell of a clout though!


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 7:28 pm
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It was one hell of a clout! Loudest impact I've ever heard on a bike by a long shot


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 8:11 pm
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Bassspine, I've got some special drill bits made of chilterns flint. Should go through ti no bother.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 8:16 pm
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lol @ Onzadog 😀

..and this is why you buy a bike from someone like Sam @ Singular. He's offered to loan me a Gryphon whilst my Peg is away being mended. Awesome.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 8:24 pm
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high five onzadog 😀

and nice one sam!


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 8:35 pm
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There are several place near Bicester / Brackley - being home to F1 teams that will have people who would fix it in their lunch hour.

Changing the downtube for such a tiny hole is way over the top.

I would have thought a small gusset would suffice. When I raced Caterhams we would fix up chassis damage way worse than that - welding / brazing / etc. Apart from the tiny hole the tube is not deformed.

Why not go and see some proper fabricators - they are local and helpfull, before spending money.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 8:51 pm
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Oh no, that's such bad luck! You just don't expect that to happen. 🙁

Whereabouts in the Chilterns did it happen? I know some of the descents can be pretty loose and sketchy.

Do hope it gets sorted out and doesn't mess up your training regime too much.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 9:05 pm
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Good point Ainsley, & thanks for the link Neil, I'll look into that on Monday. Elaine, it was the Dame Alice descent towards Watlington. Lots of leaf cover on the ground, hiding at least one nasty flint!


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 9:24 pm
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Oh yes I know that, normally do it as a climb and it's a real slog. It's such an inconvenience though, isn't it? Will you still be able to do the WRT?

Edit: just seen it's May so hopefully still do-able.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 9:30 pm
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Nasty.

That will keep cracking so don't use it. It is still fixable as long as it doesnt spread.

I would probably cut out the damage to remove the stress concentrations and then gusset over the damage.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 9:40 pm
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Sounds like your sorted wouldn't let anyone bodge such a lovely frame in there lunch hour ffs !
Top singular service as usual oh and the shop tour and polo shirt are worth the effort :-))


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 9:41 pm
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I feel your pain. Did the same to my Yeti ASR a couple of years back. The rock hit my frame so close to the weld that it also cracked the weld. Luckily I could claim on my house insurance.

Surprised you did that on the Dame Alice descent as it is not a very flinty trail compared to many of the hills nearby. I always view it as a potentially muddy trail rather than flinty one.


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 9:53 pm
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Well if i was you id be glad it hit the frame, because if it damaged the Ti frame that bad, just think what would have happened if it had missed and hit you in the shin!! 😯


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 10:08 pm
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Nothing that a splat of Araldite won't fix!!


 
Posted : 02/04/2011 11:04 pm
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Quick update. I stripped the bike & took it down to Enigma today for repair. Nice & quick and only £90 all in. Built it back up this afternoon & went for a night ride with buddies this evening. All good, hurrah 😀

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Posted : 05/04/2011 9:11 pm
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Hope thats it sorted for you. At £90 its definitely worth trying.


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 9:17 pm
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Nice work, sure that'll be fine. Glad they could sort it for you! 🙂


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 9:19 pm
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cheers I hope so too. Repair isn't guaranteed of course, but fingers crossed it'll be ok. If it does fail then I'm looking at a new downtube for a few hundred quid.


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 9:19 pm
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Nice job. I hope your lefty hub bolt is still going strong 8)


 
Posted : 06/04/2011 8:18 am
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why is there still a hole in it?


 
Posted : 06/04/2011 8:21 am
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is that blue I see around the middle of the weld along the interface to the downtube? Blue is not good.


 
Posted : 07/06/2011 7:26 pm