[Closed] I need a full Susser !!

I like these threads, they make my life seem not such of a mess as I'd previously thought.
Renton fella, haven't you upgraded everything on the whyte except the frame? Ergo, you only need a frame and you could swap all the new bits over to that and rebuild the whyte as stock - then you'd have 2 bikes, twice the fun!

Thanks for the offer bud !! Living in Oxford area currently but will bear it in mind.

Have you still got your rose 29er ?

I like these threads

They are great marketing for his 'buying bikes on the cheap and selling them for a profit' business I'm sure.

Out of interest if I were to consider selling the frame on its own what sort of price would you put it up for?

Took 4 pages but got there in the end...

Jesus!! Not much advice taken there renton already gauging a price for the frame

No not at all it was merely out of interest.

Fudge2902.. Wheels are running fine after the cracked rear hub had been sorted mate although I think the front one needs centering a bit 😉

And the prize for this year's best stealth add goes to.........

Oh dear..... Its not an ad. Ad's go in the classifieds.

Its not for sale !

renton - Member
@ v666ern.... Blood pressure pills keeping me hear rate down mate !

Out of interest if I were to consider selling the frame on its own what sort of price would you put it up for?

i reckon about £150... BTW you've got mail 😈
I'd actually be interest to know, if you want to see it frame only.

That's why I was asking.

It's got bang up to date geometry but Whyte won't sell it as a frame only hence the question.

Oh dear..... Its not an ad. Ad's go in the classifieds.

And if it doesn't sell in there? Youve just cut out the first step this time is all. Refining the sales channel...

Do you know what tomhoward this time you are the only person on this thread making snidey comments or what not.

If you are after a bite you are going to be very disappointed.

Most if not all other posters are offering advice. All you are offering? is some sort of poss taking.

Well done.

you live near the Chilterns, is that right? Almost perfect for hardtails really, but if you're not feeling the love, then get something else. I dunno what other folk do mountain biking for, but I do it for fun, and the bike is a massive part of it and if you want to change bikes; then do it. Life's too short

Ignore me - mark one Hors"e"thief is not going to cut the mustard. Move along , nothing to see here. For a moment I thought Karma would be full circle.

Price wise you can get similar frames for around £250 (Orange Clockwork) so second hand I reckon £100-150. Probably nearer £150 due to it being recent.

Oh, and I'll add my voice to the 'you need to give it a better go first' brigade. I love swapping bikes and parts but to buy one, upgrade it then not really use it before selling is daft.

Clockwork 120 is £379

and I'll add my voice to the 'you need to give it a better go first' brigade.

but sometimes, you just know it's not worth persevering with, I rode a Kona Explosif once (in the Chilts as it happens) and knew within 10 miles I'd never get on with it

Yup, I knew within a couple of rides that I didn't like the feel of a hardtail. Rigid - fine! Full suspension - fine! Just couldn't get on with how a HT felt, so moved them on. Maybe in time I'll try again and run the forks a lot stiffer..

Interesting point someone mentioned earlier actually.

To make me more inclined to ride those short little rides to the shops or whatever I now ride (unless I'm out for a planned for bit of distance) in normal clothing/ shoes. Just makes it that bit easier to just grab the bike and get going before you have time to think about it too much.

That said,I live in my Humvee shorts during spring/ summer anyway and ride flats which both helps with making the bike an easy choice for a few miles here and there.

Try a different kind of riding? A couple of days after my first Swinley ride I went and did this - www.hants.gov.uk/rh/cycling/watership-down.pdf. Nothing technical, no gnarr, but an absolutely beautiful ride. Beech lined byways, fantastic views from the top of the downs, a bit of climbing for your fitness. Couple of beers afterwards and it was an evening well spent.

All you are offering? is some sort of poss taking

Here they come ........

Toughen up princess 🙂
If you ignore good advice you're bound to get a bit of ribbing.

It's ok mate I've got my big boy pants on

All joking aside Renton you haven't helped yourself here, I've been In your shoes recently with lack of time on the bike lack of fitness etc while caring for my wife pre and post a spinal op. Sold my Horsethief to help with her medical bills and resigned myself to time away from mountain biking. Knowing how devastated I was with no bike my wife and kids surprised me with this

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Now I was in no shape fitness wise to ride like I did before I fact I think my first two rides involved throwing up my breakfast and being sore for days after. I got on that bike at every opportunity even to ride to the shops and for spins at night when my wife was settled.
The point I'm trying to make here is persevere with the bike your fitness will come back quicker than it went and your enjoyment of the bike will increase. It might not seem like it but you had a rational argument to buy the Whyte in the first place.

Hey fudge, remind your wife that a lot of guys on her think she's pretty special for that. And obviously you must be too to deserve it.

Clockwork 120 is £379

http://www.bikescene.co.uk/Orange-Clockwork-120-Frame-12537-0-0.html

eddiebaby cheers for that. She's a very special lady and totally selfless!!

I get your point chest but that is a 2016 frame and also 650b

It's also an orange so only comparable by the fact it's. A hardtail frame. Personally I would compare against other alloy frames take an average and split in two price wise

renton give me a shout if you fancy a large smuggler.....

Hard tails are a great way to learn to ride bikes properly - to serve your apprenticeship - the harsh back end stuff? Learn to ride better lines, ride through it faster-skim over the top of it, manual roll it, bunny hop the lot of it.

FS shortens the apprenticeship and gets you to the top quicker but without some of the skills.

The problem is that it all takes time, you have to put the hours in to get the skills and fitness for it to all work and come together.

I've ridden hardtails for years including mega harsh Mk1,2,&3 Chameleons, Spooky Metalheads, Brooklyn Park frame, Evil Sovereign, Ragley Bluepig in places like Les Arc, BPW, Antur Stiniog black routes etc. FS isn't the magic answer - I use the same energy, the body still aches in the same places after riding my FS it's just the speeds are higher.

Ride what you have with conviction - if you can't manage that then just accept that opening a wallet won't make any difference.

I offered up the 650b Clockwork 120 as it's what you gave a price for. Similar quality IMO so you should be able to find a similar frame around the £250 mark new. The Clockwork may be last years model but so will yours in a month or two and it's second hand.

I built my first full sus last year, an old (2011) Zesty Frame, bits off my 26" Soul, dropper, some 140mm Revs, it's not a bad build, if a bit heavy.

Since then I've also had a few demo rides on full sus bikes, and I ride with friends that ride only full sus. I currently have a Soul 275 in addition to the Zesty, which I'm riding most at the moment.

Previous similar multiple threads aside, I can see where you're coming from renton - full sus v hardtail is a funny thing to get your head round at times, they are very different, in comfort, capabilites and speed.

I thought my hardtail was the perfect bike for a local ride the other week, then we hit the first rooty, bumpy, loamy climb, and my mate of similar fitness on his full sus just pedalled away, because he could stay seated and glide over the roots and bumps without losing grip and momentum, his arse wasn't getting bucked off the saddle, he wasn't having to stand up and shift his weight so much. By the top of that first climb I felt half knackered and beaten up, my mate was raring to go. At that point I wished I was on a full sus. On the less techy, smoother climbs, my lighter bike and more direct power allowed me to pull away, and on the smooth flat and downhills I could stick with him, but those sections were in the minority.

For me, the main advantages of full sus are: Comfort, technical riding capabilites, grip on climbs, speed. So it depends where and how you ride and what you want to get out of it. Back to back rides on similar terrain on different bikes is what you need, with STRAAAAVA going if that's your thing.

You'll develop better skills and get fitter and stronger on a hardtail I think, you just learn techniques to self preserve and minimise impacts and effort required, but if you just want to be fast, full sus is a much nicer experience in my opinion.

Hard tails are a great way to learn to ride bikes properly....and so on and on blah blah blah....

Mountain biking is supposed to be fun. If you want to change your bike, then do it. Making up phoney BS to justify riding a bike you're not happy with is just pointless.

I've done about 500 miles on my 529 now and really enjoy it!
I'd say that for my local loops across the downs, in the woods and along the canals it's ace. Nice and light with great rollover from the 29er wheels and good geometry to make the descents fun.

At Swinley I always take the T130 though. Whilst rideable on the HT, it's more comfortable and quicker on the FS. I think it's the rock hard polished surface that can become tiring. Plus, the FS makes the off track descents more fun.

I would suggest you just need to ride some different local trails! As offered, come join me out on the Ridgeway. We can take a low elevation bimble on a variety of trails. Feel free to try my T130 (though it's a Medium). You're not far from some great natural trails that you can infinitely loop to create huge diverse rides, you don't have to drive 1hr to a trail center to get your kicks.

I used to have the T129 and it's a great bike, but the HT is still the better tool for local loops (hell, even my SS rigid Stooge was better locally). As a one bike solutions the T129 is great though, otherwise a two bike garage would be perfect (529 & T129/130) to cover all riding and weather (you don't want to take the FS out on every gritty winter ride, or maybe you do).

Renton,

Its been a week since your first post. The weather has been great.

How have you got on with the bike?

How many hours and miles did you record on strava?

Ha I've actually stuck some flat pedals on it and just been riding it to work or the shops etc.

Feels a bit different to be honest compared to spds but not in a bad way.

Bit weird but I find myself shuffling back on the seat all the time for some reason. Not sure why as the bike is plenty long enough.

Renton I haven't read the whole post, are you using a dropper? If not have you tried a different seatpost with a bit more flex or even a smaller diameter with a shim. I used a carbon one on my old 456 and it took a lot of harshness out of the back end, and those frames are bloody harsh.

We are off to Swinley on Sunday again. I'm taking my lads and they are really excited.

I'm just going to have a pootle around with them and try and have fun.

That's what it is all about yes ?

Without doubt. Some of my best rides are with my 8 year old talking rubbish.

Inbred.... Yes using a stealth routed dropper.

Renton, I do the shuffling back on the set thing! Lol

I usually have to have the front of the seat tilted up slightly. That's on a Charge Spoon.

Glad to hear your out and about mate. Putting flats on does make the bike more "accessible" as you can just jump on it to shoot down the shops or whatever etc.

@renton, absolutely thats what its all about.
Social rides are great, hope you all have a fabulous day out.

I'm just going to have a pootle around with them and try and have fun.

That's what it is all about yes ?

Yes definitely yes . Have fun