[Closed] I hate to say this but HOPE = RUBISH

Just put it back together. The frame will keep it together.

Bugger. That's a Wierd place for one to fail. Shouldn't be loaded through there.

I have seen some dirty (hope) freehubs in my time but that is one of the worst I seen!

Lost the penny washer. Doh!

Looks more like neglect to me than HOPE being rubbish.

So what's wrong with it?

The axle has snapped.

Try cleaning yer bike once in a while btw....

The axle has snapped.
Try cleaning yer bike once in a while btw....

Would cleaning it have stopped it from snapping?

Of course it wouldn't, merely an observation on the howling state of the wheel.

definitely.

Have you spoken to Swinertons on the Chase? They usually hold a lot of hope stock

i had a nightmare getting my cassette of the freehub after only about 2 week..not happy with hope.changed for a steel freehub and that's well notched too

Suck it up, these things happen. Why get all bent out of shape over a snapped axle?

Now if it was the the ratchet ring that failed then I'd be more inclined to agree 😉
How can you let you bike get that minging? Disgraceful

Tried One Planet and swintertons but it's a 10mm axle so not really a stock item.
Will try leisure lakes in Wolverhampton tmr morning, but not expecting a result.

Surely Swinnertons or OPA will have a normal QR axle kit in stock. Just put on of them in and refit a normal QR, sorted.

Penny washer?

Yes I think cleaning/maintaining would help, I reckon one (or more) bearings have seized on the axle (and freehub) causing over loading twisting action on the axle, making the axle snap.

I rode my bike with a broken axle like that for weeks.

And got an immediate warranty replacement from Hope / my LBS

EDIT - not saying that's a good thing, but it didn't stop me riding and it was sorted out.

i had a nightmare getting my cassette of the freehub after only about 2 week..not happy with hope.changed for a steel freehub and that's well notched too

I used a cheap cassette and it notched my freehub shocker.......

mine was xt cassette..are these no good

wysiwyg - Member

Just put it back together. The frame will keep it together.

jeff - Member

I rode my bike with a broken axle like that for weeks.

I ran a broken axle with a maxle for 6 solid weeks in France. So why not?

[i]I rode my bike with a broken axle like that for weeks.[/i]

Me too.

[i]And got an immediate warranty replacement from Hope / my LBS[/i]

Me too.

[i]EDIT - not saying that's a good thing, but it didn't stop me riding and it was sorted out.[/i]

Me too.

If you'd been arsed to clean your bike you'd have noticed. That axle's probably been busted for ages.

mmmm ignor my comments, beer stoped me seeing the details of the picture. 😳

😀 for beer.

Nahhh hope are great. I've battered my hubs all over Scotland/wales/alps for 4 years with no issues.

I used a cheap cassette and it notched my freehub shocker.......

What a stupid and particularly unhelpful thing to write.

Slightly OT and not going to help the OP but can someone point out the problem. It just looks dirty to me, obviously it's snapped but where in the pic?

Rode BPW on the 27th and it was fine only noticed a sticky freehub, chain slack on the jumps after the B-line today.
Dirty freehub = quite Hope 😉
But I'm sure that has nothing to do with it snapping

Back of the FHB. Basically where the parts mesh in the pic

I opened the thread expecting more, and there's not one comment about the title, standards are obviously slipping..
That's rubish...

It'll be an alloy maxle. I snaped a tapered one (see what I did there?) & a straight one, both replaced FOC & finally to a steel one. No issues since.
Hope are defo not rubish! (& not even rubbish)

Soap why don't you buy some bike soap and give your bike a clean before posting a part up on here!. And yes o am sure you could at least ride one day with a snapped axle

So something broke and in the few days between christmas and new year there isn't one available on your doorstep. Shit happens. The LBS probably don't stock the bits as most people just order online so they would just end up with lots of parts gathering dust...

Poor maintanence leads to failure which Hope will probably replace FOC and you are complaining ?

Am I the only one who doesn't see the problem with a bike with some mud on it?

5 minutes down the trail it'll be splattered in mud again. I only ever give mine a brush down, unless it's going in a mates car or to the lbs, the less water it's exposed to the better imo.

I think the issue is that it has mud in it !

I think the reference was to the state of the internals of the hub. Grease isn't usually that colour as stock..

is that grease?

the less water it's exposed to the better imo

That'll rule out riding for about 10 months in this country. If you don't keep a reasonable handle on cleaning your bike, you are not maintaining it properly. I'd rather find a potential issue when cleaning/maintaining, than when I'm in the middle of the highlands.

Ya can't over maintain owt !,ya can however under maintain !, then blame everyone !.

I'm a 100% sure HOPE will replace the axle FOC.
It's just shite we drove for 4.5 hours today to stay in a hotel with no riding tomorrow.
That's what's made it rubbish.

So i own a hope rear hub. I have never ever maintained a free hub ever. All the others have been Shimano. What exactly should I be doing to maintain it. I assumed it was all sealed

The muck on the wheel looks like a wheel that has been ridden, some on here should try it sometimes rather than talking about it all the time, or mocking those that do ride.

Re: the axle snap, it is a known problem with the thru axle hubs, 10mm and 12mm for Hope hubs that they often snap at this point, I've snapped 4 over the last couple of years, always replaced by Hope. The last one they sent was steel replacement, then the hub shells started splitting after that.

They reckoned they solved the problem with the Evo hub, but I didn't persevere to find out and switched brands instead.

Hope customer service is excellent, but I'd rather products that didn't fail in the first place.

Can someone explain how a bit (OK a lot) of mud could snap a 10 or 12mm tube with a 2.5mm wall thickness with an assortment of bearings, seals and spacer rings separating it from the outside world, as I'm at a loss to see how that's possible....

It seems to me to be a manufacturers issue rather than user neglect.

The OPs bang in the middle of a 2 day trip with his Mrs...
And he's being chastised for for daring to post a pic of a dirty bike... 😕

Priceless.

Op, being a 10mm bolt-up, I'd run it. Just make sure it's tight. I reckon it will be fine.

Hope kit is fantastic. Your thread title is sensationalist nonsense

The OPs bang in the middle of a 2 day trip with his Mrs...
And he's being chastised for for daring to post a pic of a dirty bike...

Priceless.

Sometimes bike kit breaks... Them's the breaks(pun intended) luckily hope are great to deal with 🙂

Have a day off the bike and spend some quality time with the good lady 😉

I had an lx rear mech snap as I was changing gear once SHIMANO = rubbish

Shoulda bought Shimano!

[quote=mikewsmith said]If your going away for a special trip check things over first. There are countless parts on a bike that can snap and leave you unable to ride if the specific spare is not in stock.

Seriously, how many people would actually go as far as dismantling their hub to check their axle? To my mind it's the part I'd least expect to snap on me.

Couple of other local bike shops to try are 'run and ride' and gnarly cycles, both very local to the chase.
You could hire a bike from swinnos if all else fails too, not cheap if you want something decent though I'd imagine.

admittedly I've snapped a few Hope axles over the years hence now running 'greaseguard' XT rear hubs. The rest of Hope stuff is good though.

Sorry what has snapped here? The photo appears that the freehub has come out. The freehubs are only really held in by the engagement of the pawls and the seal, surely in their current state this could account for this?

The axle. You know the bit the fhb slides on so the bearings do stuff

It looks like the axle that runs through the hub (not the thru-axle which is removable - and is sticking out from the wheel) has snapped, and this runs into the freehub

So it should look like this with the freehub removed...

Oh i see this now, thought the 10mm axle was in contact with the bearings

if you look the axles has snapped off (around the bolt thru) at either end of teh 2 sections

the problem is there is so much crap in there irs hard to see whats going on

On at least one of the pawls either the spring has snapped or its just seized and wont be engaging!, its so dirty its hard to say

hope hubs do require a bit of maintenance ut an annual strip and regrease is well worth the hassle for something that will happily last for a decade(and still be relevant- pro2s can be converted to evos internally etc)

God knows what the rest of bike rides like if that's how you keep it. I would draw a line under the poor old horse, send it to glue factory and buy a new one to **** into the ground.

Had a 135 x 12 mm axle snap this year on Pro2 with a DT Swiss RWS maxle. It must have snapped while riding but I didn't know till I removed the back wheel and the cassette rolled away. It's gotta be worth bolting it up tight and seeing if it works.
Hope obviously sorted it Foc as they did my 3 yrs old Vision 2 battery that stopped connecting. Great company, great serviceable products.

Looks like possible seized bearing has something to do with it. For balance I've had quite a few shimano freehubs and axles break AND they didn't replace them for free at 5 mins notice.

@tomd, scandalous, I hope you started a thread about it

Think I've got that axel in my shed. Let me know if you still need it. I'm based in Telford so not far away.
Rich

Hope axles have been known to snap. So what? They're lightweight. I've also had other axles snap. Hope will replace it free of charge, their after-sales service is excellent. Better clean the axle up though; when they see your almost criminal neglect of the hub they might not feel so generous.

....and it's RUBBISH not rubish.

How dose the rest of the bike ride you ask
I think it's ok

It's a common fault with the 10mm and 12mm through axles and has nothing to do with dirt or seized bearing.
Hope are a GREAT. Company but the axle in the Pro 2 is shite hence the Pro2 evo.
Rubish or Rubbish who gives a toss ( get over yourself and ride your bike)

Rich if you could sell me that axle I'd come and collect it.
GchippetteATmsnDOTcom

Buy a new wheel, then you'll have a spare.

Sent you an email SOAP

Rich

there's a specialized shop in stafford, you could try there:
Eastgate St, Stafford ST16 2LZ
01785 220060

Failing that there are several good bike shops in stoke, 35 mins away.

Brian Rourkes:
194 Waterloo Rd, Stoke-on-Trent ST6 3HF
01782 835368

Swinnertons: (the same people of the shop on the chase)
67-73 Victoria Rd, Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire ST4 2HG
01782 747782

Goldtec:
Croft Road, Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire
ST5 0TW
01782 629462

Why don't you hire a bike for the day....that might be better than a ruined biking weekend?